El Rojo
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Fletchette
Federal prison is not horrible time, at least not at the low or minimum security level. You might want to check your facts before you make statements like the one above, because my three years of working in a prison most certainly didn't leave me feeling like the conditions any of us were in were horrible.
However, your claims of horrible gulags and prisoner abuse are outrageous. Go read the book "Catch Me if You Can". Don't watch the movie, go read the book. See how Frank Abignale was treated in a French jail and there you can see gulag style treatment.
Seriously Fletchette, I would recommend you spend some time in prison before you are able to just make blanket statements about what goes on there. From your statements, it is clear to me you have not spent any amount of time in any facility and so your opinions about the condition of these facilities are null and void. Sorry, if you haven't been there, you really can't comment about what it is like there. This isn't an elitist attitude, it is a simple fact. At this point you clearly don't know what you are talking about. It would be no different than you saying, "I can load my .223 Remington to 5000 FPS and shoot 5" groups at 1000 yards with it." When you are wrong, you are wrong.
I am glad the BOP and us lowly Geo guys all have the same staff member unity and safety in mind. Those are just the rules of the game.Yes, prisoners are third on the list. If I have to choose between the safety of an inmate, or the safety of a fellow staff member, guess who loses? Right - it's not going to be the staff member!
Fletchette
You just lost all credibility with me because if you had spent any time in a federal prison, you would understand that these inmates are not suffering one bit. Do you think I am joking when I talk about soccer, football, basketball, bocci, tennis, pool, leather shop, clay shop, handicapped workout machines, elyptical trainers, stationary bikes, cable television, law library typewriters, magazine subscriptions, recreation tournaments, a full sized store/commissary, a barber shop, and educational programs out the wazzoo? Heck our minimum security facility had one of the best horticulture programs anywhere. Do your time by growing plants and enjoying the outdoors.What I am saying is that the people who allocate the money, the people with power, at the Federal government level (Congress and their legions of unelected bureaucracies and think-tanks) have conciously decided to underfund the prison system to make it horrible as it is to their benefit.
Federal prison is not horrible time, at least not at the low or minimum security level. You might want to check your facts before you make statements like the one above, because my three years of working in a prison most certainly didn't leave me feeling like the conditions any of us were in were horrible.
Again, have you ever been in a prison as either a employee or inmate? "gulag-style treatment"? You have no idea what you are talking about. Correctional officers for the most part are professionals who have procedures and rules about everything and must conduct themselves professionally or face lawsuits and possible assault. Is that to say all guards are as professional as others? No. There is an occasional rule broken and sometimes that helps to rectify a situation.With underfunded prisons we get gulag-style treatment of the prisoners- a horrifying deterent enough to keep potential adversaries from challenging their authority.
However, your claims of horrible gulags and prisoner abuse are outrageous. Go read the book "Catch Me if You Can". Don't watch the movie, go read the book. See how Frank Abignale was treated in a French jail and there you can see gulag style treatment.
Seriously Fletchette, I would recommend you spend some time in prison before you are able to just make blanket statements about what goes on there. From your statements, it is clear to me you have not spent any amount of time in any facility and so your opinions about the condition of these facilities are null and void. Sorry, if you haven't been there, you really can't comment about what it is like there. This isn't an elitist attitude, it is a simple fact. At this point you clearly don't know what you are talking about. It would be no different than you saying, "I can load my .223 Remington to 5000 FPS and shoot 5" groups at 1000 yards with it." When you are wrong, you are wrong.