Reloading Cost by the Box

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Consider the cost of getting into handloading by comparing the cost of retail boxes of ammo to the cost of that same amount of ammunition bought as components and including the cost of the reloading gear.

For comparison purposes, I will stipulate that a typical box of (50 count) handgun ammunition costs about the same as a typical box of (20 count) rifle ammunition.


If you take enough money to buy 12 boxes of ammunition and apply it to the purchase of;

A) 2 boxes of store-bought ammunition (so you have the brass which you will re-use) and apply the remaining money to the purchase of

B) A decent press, dies, scale, a few extra small implements necessary to the activity

C) enough powder, primers and bullets to make 10 more boxes of ammunition, (500 handgun or 200 rifle)

you will have spent the same amount of money for the same amount of shooting (12 boxes worth - 600 handgun or 240 rifle) and you may well have some powder left over.

After that, all your ammunition is a fraction of the cost of store-bought (excluding your time, of course, but for some cartridges, you can amortize your time, too and still be saving money; depending on if you count your time as worth $20 per hour or $100, of course. The bonuses of satisfaction, better quality ammo and the independence from retailers are not even addressed here).

This rough estimate applies equally well to bottlenecked rifle cartridges as to handgun cartridges.

The exact figures will depend on local prices, but I expect counting by boxes will be more universal than counting by currency, even in different countries.


Anyone care to comment on or refine my (very rough) calculations?

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my thoughts are this. You have to have time on your hands. Because it takes a bit to load ammo. I love doing it because i love building stuff.. And for some reason people cant believe someone makes their own ammo. At least around here. ahaha
 
I'd like to see a cost analysis of a box of ammo from walmart vs a box of ammo out of my press.

I guess I could do it myself....how many rounds can I get out of a plastic jug of power pistol...loading at 6.8 grains per?
 
There are 7,000 grains in a pound.

SO, 1,029.4 rounds if you don't spill any on the floor.

rc
 
I'd like to see a cost analysis of a box of ammo from walmart vs a box of ammo out of my press.

I guess I could do it myself....how many rounds can I get out of a plastic jug of power pistol...loading at 6.8 grains per?
That is the easiest: One thousand (and if there is no spillage, 200 grains of powder still in the jug)

Lost Sheep
 
I'd like to see a cost analysis of a box of ammo from walmart vs a box of ammo out of my press.

The only problem is if you are talking about WWB value pack you aren't going to get the same quality. After shooting reloads the WWB ammo shoots like garbage.

I guess I could do it myself....how many rounds can I get out of a plastic jug of power pistol...loading at 6.8 grains per?

There are 7,000 grains in one pound. Divide that by your 6.8 grain charge and you can load around 1,029.
 
I don't keep careful track of costs because, like lyrikz, I simply enjoy reloading. I would do it even if I saved nothing at all.
 
I occasionally take notice of the economics of reloading from time to time. But in all honesty, I started reloading much for the same reasons I continue reloading, to shoot the very best ammunition obtainable.

I have never had a mis-fire in the more than 30 years of reloading, nor have I ever had a cartridge perform unusual or abnormally. I can't say the same for factory ammunition.
 
Ignoring one time fixed costs, typical scenarios on 30-06 below

30-06
Cost, Stock, Landed with Tax Stock Units $/unit $ per Round
Powder $21.90 7000 $0.00 $0.16
Primers $2.90 100 $0.03 $0.03
Bullets $74.00 500 $0.15 $0.15
Brass losses $0.35 0.007 $0.01 $0.01
Total Cost/round $0.34

Quality Commercial

Qty Cost Shipping Total Cost Cost/round
20 35 0 35 $1.75

Savings/round $1.41
 
When you start reloading you start to scrounge brass at the range. Next thing you know you have a five gallon bucket full of 9mm brass, another full of 223 brass and another full of 45 auto brass. Then you are buying new guns because you have brass with no gun in that caliber yet. Don't ask me how I know this. It's tough but somebody has to do it. :D
 
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When you start reloading you start to scrounge brass at the range. Next thing you know you have a five gallon bucket full of 9mm brass, another full of 223 brass and another full of 45 auto brass. Then you are buying new guns because you have brass with no gun in that caliber yet. Don't ask me how I know this. It's tough but somebody has to do it.
I think that is called making efficient use of the available resources. Otherwise I have no idea what you speak of. :p
 
It costs me $2.51 Per box of 50 for my 45 auto and my 44 mag plinkers. I get my lead for free and I only use 6 grains of Unique in both rounds.

On my 44 mag and my 45/70 it costs a little more because of the powder and gas check.

My rifle loads are like most people since I buy a premium bullet for them.
 
Then you are buying new guns because you have brass with no gun in that caliber yet. Don't ask me how I know this. It's tough but somebody has to do it.

That happened to me already and I've been reloading for less than a year. I had all this .40 brass, and I could the 9mm mags in the 40 and vice versa, and the shell plates were the same, and I had all this .40 brass lying around. Now I have two XDs.

I pay half as much per box and haven't saved a dime.
 
I am not sure I save much money reloading but that is just because I can now shoot several times as many rounds per trip to the range :)

In .44 Special, "Cowboy Action" strength loads were varying wildly from $35 to over $50 per 50 around here. I plugged the info on my parts costs (Primer, powder and slugs) into the Calculator on the Lee Loader disc and it says I am now out $8.57 for the same thing when I DIY. Powder costs are low enough that I could jack things up to some pretty humming velocities for a fairly trivial additional cost but I don't feel like spending the time cleaning out the lead fouling that would result.

If I am feeling upscale and snooty (or want to "practice" as opposed to "plink"), I can also turn out something like a .44 Spl 180 gr JHP premium self defense load at about 3 rounds for a dollar.

... FWIW, I did start a bit ahead in the costs game because I had been saving brass for quite a while before I got a press
 
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I couldn't afford to shoot some of my guns if I didn't reload. Premium 300 Win Mag costs as much as $3.40 a SHOT. I load it for about 60 cents (with the bulk of that going to the bulletsmiths). Heck, 308 is going for a buck a shot! I still have thousands of lake city 168 gr pulls for plinking that I picked up for .05 a piece back in '99.
 
If you are a robot. You can reload 9mm pistol rds that perform MUCH better than typical commercial rds for about half the cost. Depending on how much a robot shoots, your 'good quality' reloading gear costs can usually break even within a year.

On the other hand, I've never met a robot shooter. What happens is you will shot 3 or 4 or 5 times as much, and spend way more money than you previously did. With the higher rnd count, your payback for reloading equipment costs will be MUCH faster than a year :uhoh:.:D

That's what you tell your significant other. "I'm shooting twice a week, so I can get my reloading investment money back sooner". :evil:

Brass is the most expensive component for handgun reloading. Free range brass is critical to saving money by reloading.
 
From my calculations, it's pretty simple. Neglecting the equipment cost, my typical handloads are 1/2 to 1/3 the cost of equivalent factory ammo. For uncommon rifle cartridges, it's about 1/4. That's not because the components are greatly more expensive, but because oddball factory ammo is insanely expensive.
 
The savings go way up when loading, say, .458 Win Mag. Last time I looked it was $120/20 rounds :what: That said I've gotten to the point where I'm loading .45 and 9mm for the price of powder and primers, roughly $.05 a round. Yes, I cast as well.


Then you are buying new guns because you have brass with no gun in that caliber yet. Don't ask me how I know this. It's tough but somebody has to do it.

I thought I was the only sicko who did this :evil:
 
Well, respectfully, I can't get the OPs numbers to come close to being able to get into reloading for the cost of 12 boxes of ammo.

A close friend of mine is considering getting into reloading and we, just this past weekend, ran some numbers on what it would cost him to begin reloading. Just for the cost of a decent single stage press, dies, powder, primers, powder measure, scale, bullet trays, tumbler, media, calipers, and misc. small pieces, it would cost over $400 (Rock Chucker press and goodies out of the Midway catalog).

If you take the cost of 9mm ammo at Walmart here in Central Florida at about $12 a box tax included, that comes to only $144 vs the $400 to get into reloading. If we used the cost of 45 ACP ammo at $20 a box that's still only $240.

We figured the write off of the cost of the reloading equip. is how much is saved on a box of ammo in order to justify the $400 cost of the reloading equip. My approx. cost of a box of my reloads in 45 ACP is about $6.00 vs $20 a box at WalMart. ( I don't cast my own lead bullets) So, if I save $14 a box, it would take about 28 boxes of reloaded ammo to pay myself back for the reloading equip. That's better than double the 12 boxes from the OP. (Coincidentally, the first pound of powder bought would just about do 28 boxes of 45 ACP ammo for me using 4.5 grains of powder per load)

All that said, my problem with the OP is the actual cost of getting into reloading with all the necessary equipment. How do these numbers play out with others? :D
 
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We figured the write off of the cost of the reloading equip. is how much is saved on a box of ammo in order to justify the $400 cost of the reloading equip. My approx. cost of a box of my reloads in 45 ACP is about $6.00 vs $20 a box at WalMart. ( I don't cast my own lead bullets) So, if I save $14 a box, it would take about 28 boxes of reloaded ammo to pay myself back for the reloading equip. That's better than double the 12 boxes from the OP. (Coincidentally, the first pound of powder bought would just about do 28 boxes of 45 ACP ammo for me using 4.5 grains of powder per load)

:D

That is a reasonable analysis.

Time seems to be the main item that folks get hung up on with reloading costs. It all depends on how you value your time.

Truth be told, if you put a monetary value on your time, buying commercial ammuntion would be cheaper. But...

in my case, reloading is a recreational activity. I do it at my discretion. Therefore, the time is of no value. No different than vegitating in front of the boob tube watching a "foolsball" game. i am just doing something else.

Payback time on your reloading equipment is reasonable to calculate. Maybe if more did that, they would make a better decision on what type of reloading equipment to buy. But again, it is a recreational activity. I really do not shoot enough to justify progressive equipment but I wanted a new toy to play with and see if progressives lived up to all the internet hype.

30 years ago, i calculated my cost of a box of reloads. It was cheaper than factory ammunition. Reloads are still cheaper than factory. I have lots of other reasons for continuing reloading, not the least of which is that I always have ammunition on hand that I like to shoot and do not worry that Wallyworld has restocked their shelves. Being able to enjoy firearms that shoot obsolete cartridges is another. The list goes on.

I have quit obsessing over the cost or savings of reloading.
 
I initially got into reloading to save money. As others have pointed out, I just shoot more. However, the ammo I am shooting is much more accurate and is tuned to my pistol / rifle.

I have thousands of rounds of .45 ACP & 9mm Luger on the shelves and don't have to worry about running out. My costs per hundred is about $8.50 for both pistol calibers (shoot exclusively lead, but may move to plated for the 9mm).

I recently got an AR in .223 Remington. I enjoy chasing accuracy out of my gas gun. I enjoy seeing a small hole after sending 10 rounds down range. I can't do that with commercial ammo (well at least not any of the cheap stuff).

I've been back to the shooting game for 12 months. In that time I have a acquired 2 pistols (.45 ACP & 9mm Luger) and 2 rifles (.270 Win & AR in .223 Remington). I reload for these calibers and am actually also set up to reload for 40 S&W, .357 Mag/.38 Special, .44 Mag/.44 Special, & .308 Win/7.62 NATO.

It has become a relaxtional exercise for me. My wife has realized this and actually allows me to reload in front of the TV. I am multi-tasking, but we are together and she knows that I am pretty relaxed at the end of it.

I have already recovered the cost of my reloading equipment. Most of my it was from .45 ACP rounds alone.

I've picked up some of my gear on the cheap just scouring the FS forums. My buddy and I were able to pick up a .223 Rem and .308 Win Redding National Match die set for $170 total (MidwayUSA pricing for these is $149 a set). You don't need to spend a lot of money if you can spend some time looking for bargains. They are definitely out there.
 
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