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Remington Golden Bullet Value Pack Junk Ammo

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  1. total recoil

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    I took two .22's to the range yesterday. A S&W model 22A and a cheapie Chiappa 1911 looking .22.
    About 20% of this junk ammunition failed to go off. The lot number is L22UC1234 printed on the inner flap of the box. A few of the rounds went off when hit on a different part of the rim Some were struck in 3 different places and failed to go off. I stopped picking up my ejected duds and re-trying them.
    When you pay about $39 for the 525 round box (on sale) you would expect a company like Remington to produce a fine product. At least they should test out their ammo before foisting it off on the public. Remington ought to give a refund on this trash.
    Rant finished! No more Remington for me. I hope they don't make defibrillators!
     
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  2. tark

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    Or replacement heart valves..... That's depressing. I remember when the only guaranteed garbage ammo from Remington was the Thunderbolt ammo. I guess the gangrene has spread.
     
  3. Elkins45

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    People where I shoot have had similar problems.
     
  4. Mauser lover

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    That's odd, I like the thunderbolt ammo. I haven't bought any in years, but the stuff I have used has been good. Every now and then I get a dud with the golden bullet stuff, but hey, it's cheap!

    Accuracy isn't fantastic with anything except one revolver I've ever tried, but again, hey, it's cheap!
     
  5. readyeddy

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    I avoid Remington 22 LR ammo since I shot Thunderbolt ammo in the 1990's. CCI has since proven to to be the most reliable and affordable 22 ammo, when it's available.
     
  6. bannockburn

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    Have yet to find any Remington .22 ammo worth bothering with, including Golden Bullet, Thunderbolt, Viper, and Yellow Jacket. Too many duds and failures to feed; when you do get them to feed then failures to eject. If on the off chance you do get a couple of rounds to go off, forget about having any sort of measurable group size, at least not that you want to show to anybody. All in all a very frustrating experience with what years ago use to be decent rimfire ammo.
     
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    People are saying that that are much better and although I never buy Rem. I just went thru 100 golden bullets and they were good.
     
  8. 25cschaefer

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    I found a Remington Thunderbolt bucket o' bullets back during the shortage and snatched it up, absolute disappointment with about 35-40% of them being duds or had such low power that you could literally see them in the air shooting a target less than 10 yds away. I ended up using them as trade fodder, with a disclaimer, and have not bought a Remington rimfire product since. I shoot CCI almost exclusively or Aguilla, it's funny that I have not had a single malfunction with Mexican bargain basement ammo but know a lot of people cussing their way through bricks of Remington stuff.
     
  9. Oldman1151

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    I have always had good experience with Remington Golden Bullets and Thunderbolts. Thunderbolts were always my choice of 22 LR. Last time I have bought either has been about a year ago. No issues with any of those either.

    Edit. I do get a dud once in while but no more than with other brands.
     
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  10. jmr40

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    One of the bonuses of the ammo shortage, especially 22's, is that I was forced to buy good ammo. The cheap bulk stuff hasn't been available but target ammo costing $7-$8 per 50 rounds has always been there. I've gotten used to actually hitting stuff that I shoot at. I wouldn't go back to any of that junk ammo again. Not just Remington, but all of the stuff that comes in those 500+ round containers. I've not had any issues with duds, but I was happy to see 1-2" groups at 50 yards before. Now I'm putting 10 rounds into 1-2" at 200 yards. At least with no wind. It doesn't take much wind to push those off the target at 200.
     
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    I guess there are many of us who have had a bad experience with Rem .22 ammo. "...duds or had such low power that you could literally see them in the air". When that happened to me on two separate purchases, I gave up Rem ammo of any sort for life. And I really did like their loads in .30-06. There are plenty of good ammo makers to gamble on a known failure.
     
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    10 rounds into 1 to 2" at 200 yards is impressive.
     
  13. Big7

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    One of two things happened:

    You got a bad batch or some that were stored incorrectly.

    I shoot them all the time.

    No more "fizzer's" than with Fed, or Win.
     
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    I have never had an issue with Remington Golden Bullet, but I also shoot 22lr pretty rarely. I've been working on the same Bucket 'O Bullets for somewhere around 4 years now and am still not halfway through it.
     
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    Same experience with my Mark IV & Buck Mark. My 50+ year old Glenfield/Marlin Model 60 will eat them all day long but I tend to avoid shooting them as they tend to leave more residue than other 22LR. I will admit to having about 3 or 4K of loose Thunderbolt & Golden Bullet in a large tupper ware bowl. Some of them have been in there probably 20 years. Gave them out by the hand full to friends during the recent big .22 scare/fabricated shortage.
    I'll pay the extra $ for plastic sleeved CCI Mini Mags and Winchester Super X.
     
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    Good for you...at least maybe some of your friends got some use out them. I also don't mind paying a little bit more for CCI MiniMags as I know I'm gettting quality (and accurate), rimfire ammo in return.
     
  17. loose noose

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    I've heard plenty about the Remington Golden Bullets that I've bought whenever I've seen them, and to this date have not had a problem with them. The only ammo I've ever had a problem with are the Winchester (36grn HP), in the 100 count boxes, a lot of failures to fire. I've got quite a few .22LR pistols, revolvers, as well as rifles, and they all seem to digest those (Golden) rounds without any problems.
     
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    Never had a problem with Remington Golden. Except they aren't very accurate.
     
  19. ATLDave

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    I have had similarly exasperating experiences with the Remington golden .22lr's. It was rare to get through a single 10-round magazine without at least one dud.
     
  20. C.R.

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    I have noticed some variance in power in the Remington 525 round box some are almost squibs,some full power
     
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    Remington Golden Bullet, the ammunition everyone likes to hate. I am pretty sure this subject comes up about once a year, maybe more times. When rimfire ammunition fails it's nice to see some images of the failed strikes. I have seen rimfire failure as a result of bad strikes or weak strikes on the rims. I have had rimfire cartridges fail regardless of brand but for the most part the better ammunition which carries a higher price tag does tend to have fewer failures. Everybody loves to hate Remington but I have seen lousy ammunition from most US major manufacturers. The Remington for its class is really no worse than the others in similar ammunition, that has been my experience anyway. Don't like Remington? Then buy another brand, you have to love America and all the choice we have.

    Ron
     
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    In the 1960s Remington Golden Bullet .22 LR HV were the gold standard. (The name comes from the gilding metal bullet plating, golden not coppery.) Recent years I have seen a lot of Rem Golden (other brands too, but Rem Golden stands out to me) in the dud box at the range and in the past two decades I have experienced carton packed 500+ rd lots with high rates of failure (unacceptable to me is 1 out of 100). CCI and Aguila have been very reliable for me. Recently though I have been going through my cache of Remington Golden Bullets for plinking cans and have had good reliability with my Nylon 66 rifle and Ruger MKII pistol (*scratch head*). I do clean the guns at least once a year (OCD) and make sure the firing pins are mobile and not gummed up.
     
  23. azrocks

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    Sometimes you get what you pay for.

    I never expect perfection from bulk-pack .22 ammo, regardless of brand.
     
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    The first part of your statement does not match my experience. As I mentioned above, at some point in the last 10 years, I bought 5 100-round boxes of the Remington golden stuff. After a couple of magazines, I wondered if something was up with my gun... nope, other ammo ran fine. Then I wondered if maybe the box had gotten exposed to some solvent or something that ruined the cartridges... nope, other boxes were similarly prone to failure (failure rates around 10-15%). I eventually decided that it was best to just shoot the stuff up.

    And then we get to the second part of your statement, which is exactly what I have done!
     
  25. ATLDave

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    There's non-flawless ammo that fails at a 1-2% rate and then there's non-flawless ammo that fails at a 10-15% rate. Those are pretty different.
     
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