Risk & Reward Centerfire Match:

[Maverick223]

Welcome to the Centerfire Match for the month of September! This match is open to any centerfire rifle. This match is meant to be challenging and educational, but most of all FUN. Hopefully it will get you out to the range and shooting your rifle. If you have one handy, make sure an bring a friend too.


EDIT: There are Two Optics Divisions:
->Iron sights and non-magnified optics and red dots. Shot at 50yds.
->Scopes and other magnified sighting devices. Shot at 100yds.

There are Two Rifle Classes:
->Unlimited/Target Rifles (highly modified rifles, rests, target sights, heavy rifles (over 10lbs), high magnification optics- over 10x [in the appropriate division] may be used). Rests/Sandbags/bipods are permitted in this class only.
->Sporting Rifles (Includes All Non-Target Class Autoloaders, Bolt Actions, Single Shots, Pumps, & Lever Rifles). Rests/sandbags/bipods are not permitted in this class, but shooting sticks (either the crossed or walking stick variety) are allowed. Use of a sling is encouraged. Shoots may be taken from any position.


50 Yd. (Irons) Target: See attachment below. This target was graciously donated by fellow member and rifleman, Gregaw. Scale to 100% on standard 8.5x11in. paper (for best results print from Windows Photo Viewer with "fit picture to frame" deselected). The objective is to fire 5 shots at the white triangle as high on the target as possible without breaking the edge of the triangle. You only need to break the line to earn the indicated point value, but you only need to break the edge of the triangle to loose all the points for that shot (1-20; indicated on left edge of target), for a maximum score of 100pts! Choose from either the full-color target or greyscale copy.

100 Yd. (Optics) Target: Same as above.


When you are satisfied you've done your best post/attach (or shoot me a PM) a photo or scan of your target with as much of the following information as possible: Forum name (or name you want posted in the results), Rifle, make, model, vintage (if known), Sights/Optics (with magnification if applicable), Ammo (or load, if you care to divulge your secret recipe), Position, Distance, Conditions (in/outdoors, wind, temperature...). Multiple submissions are allowed (in same or different class with same or different rifles).

Self-scoring is encouraged and appreciated. All submissions due before September 31st.

 

[EWY]

Looks like fun. I'll have to print a few to take to the range over the weekend.

 

[Bonesinium]

A score of 5 with them all t being in the 1 would be significantly more impressive then a score of almost anything less then a 95!

 

[FullEffect1911]

As soon as the flooding and rain stops I'll head out to the range and poke a few holes in a couple at 50 yards.

 

[NoobCannon]

I might take a shot at this sometime this upcoming week.

EDIT: Where would an unmodified Enfield go, in terms of Target/Sport rifles?

 

[KSCCHTrainer]

As long as you don't use a bipod, bench rest/sandbags it would go in the sporting, unmagnified class and the target would be shot at 50 yards with the standard Enfield open sights.

You can use shooting sticks and by all means use a sling to help steady your aim.

Jim

 

[Maverick223]

Where would an unmodified Enfield go, in terms of Target/Sport rifles?

As Jim said, it would go in Sporting (barring the use of a rest, bags, bipod, et cetera), Non-Magnified (barring the use of magnified optics).

You can use shooting sticks and by all means use a sling to help steady your aim.

Well said, Jim. A sling can make all the difference in the world.

 

[Maverick223]

I typically use the hasty sling technique but occasionally will use the loop sling method when I am taking my time and shooting unassisted (without bipod or any type of rest). This isn't often, because most of my precision rifles are equipped with a bipod which makes the loop method largely unnecessary (particularly when firing from my favorite position, prone). I don't recall ever hearing of a quick sling technique.

 

[Maverick223]

I say that because you refer to the loop sling. Do you mean by that the method of unhooking the sling and creating a loop that goes around your upper arm then the sling goes around your elbow with tension held to the front of the rifle? I've heard people refer to that as the loop sling method but others (including me) call that the hasty sling.

That's it. One thing I would like to experiment with is a Quick-Cuff sling, which seems like a quicker and simpler method of achieving the same goal as the loop technique, but the dang things are a little too costly to buy before I try one.

 

[KSCCHTrainer]

May not have it in time for this month's centerfire match, but I've managed to find (working out the payment and transfer details now) and put a lock on an older Savage Model 10 LH Tactical, left hand heavy barrel in .223. Not the accu-trigger model but it is adjustable. Guy says it's a "tack driver" and shoots dime size groups @ 100 yards with Federal mil surp ammo (I got 1000 rounds stashed already).

I'll post pix as soon as I get it.

Jim

 

[FullEffect1911]

I have a small rules question, not that I have this setup yet.

If I were to set up a rifle with a scout setup and shoot with the scope on 1.5x would it be close enough to qualify for the unmagnified class?

Obviously since it is slightly magnified I would imagine it wouldn't, but I may as well ask.

 

[Orlando]

FullEffect1911, magnified is magnified no matter how small ,in my opinion.

 

[FullEffect1911]

FullEffect1911, magnified is magnified no matter how small ,in my opinion.

I agree, just wanted to make sure.

 

[Maverick223]

If I were to set up a rifle with a scout setup and shoot with the scope on 1.5x would it be close enough to qualify for the unmagnified class?

Sorry to be a buzz-kill, but that's still magnified. I think allowing a 1x optic is pushing it far enough. That said, it should still qualify for sporting class (depending upon how you set it up) as long as you don't use a rest/bags/et al.

Personally I am not a big fan of a scout type scope, but I am a big proponent of low-magnification optics (a wide field of view oft affords more utility than high magnification), particularly when used for large and/or dangerous game species. So what it may lack in competition worthiness it will likely more than make up for for sporting purposes.

 

[FullEffect1911]

Personally I am not a big fan of a scout type scope,

I like a lot of the ideas behind it. Quicker operation of the bolt without glass being in the way. No chance for the scope to smash into my face if a less then prefect hold happens.

Every bolt action I fired that didn't have an optic I loved and every one that had a traditional scope I was underwhelmed. I am hoping that the scout setup gives the best of both. Though like you mentioned mav, it won't likely be competitive here.

 

[Andrew Wyatt]

Target/Unlimited

I get 28 points.

Remington LTR in .308

WW Power point 150 gr.

Leupold VX-II 3-9X40 set on 9X

I'm really irritated because i was working really hard to shoot a decent group and came up with this trash, when I was shooting groups like this at 400 without really having to work too hard not that long ago.

 

[Caddisflied]

That beats my 16.
I tried shooting my Marlin 1894, 44 Mag. standing offhand at 50 yards without a rest.
I was hoping a few more would land inside the big white triangle,
but thats the way it goes sometimes.

Non-magnified Sporting
Iron sights (Lyman 66LA)
1894 Marlin, 44 Mag
50 yards
Win, 240gr
offhand, standing

 

[Maverick223]

I think a rectangle or perhaps a trapazoid, rather than a triangle, might have been a little better choice for the centerfire match (it's fine for the wee little rimfire pills, not for centerfire thumpers). Live and learn, I'll try to do a bit better next go around.

 

[Caddisflied]

I never thought of blaming the target for my poor shooting before.
That's a good one!
I'll have to add that excuse to my list, for future use.

I like this target!
I'm hoping to give it another go before the month is over.

 

[KSCCHTrainer]

I never thought of blaming the target for my poor shooting before.
That's a good one!
I'll have to add that excuse to my list, for future use.

I like this target!
I'm hoping to give it another go before the month is over.

I like this target too. Have 2 left hand bolt guns coming. One is a used, non-accutrigger Savage Model 10FP with the heavy barrel in .223 and the other is a brand new Savage 10 FLCP-K, fluted, 24" heavy barrel with muzzle brake in .308. Also have a Nikon Monarch "Buckmasters" 6-18 X 40 piece of glass coming with it. The 10 FLCP-K should be here Thursday, but the other one is coming from an individual in New York to my FFL dealer about 60 miles from me. It should show up early next week some time. Once I get 'em glassed up and sighted in, I'll try this one again with my own guns. Probably won't do as good as that .17 Remington I borrowed earlier, but guy I'm getting the .223 from says it's a coyote bustin' tack driver so maybe with some Lake City XM193 match ammo it might perform. We'll see.

Jim

 

[FullEffect1911]

I like how some calibers can't barely get a 20 hit to fit in there.

I just got back from the range and got a score of 58.

Rifle was a Stag AR15 carbine with an aimpoint comp C3, 55 grain handloads at 50 yards. Sporting/unmagnified class. I should be able to do a better one later in the month.

 

[Caddisflied]

Very Nice FE1911!
Getting 5 in that 20 is going to be a challenge for sure!

KSC
There should be plenty of time to get one or both of those Savages dialed in this month..
I'm looking forward to seeing those targets.
A buddy of mine has a heavy-barrelled Savage in 223.
Don't remember the model, I haven't seen it since last year.
If I see him again before snow flies I might ask if I can borrow it for a weekend,
if he still has it.

 

[Maverick223]

I never thought of blaming the target for my poor shooting before.

You should try it; it adds a whole new dimension to target shooting.

I like how some calibers can't barely get a 20 hit to fit in there.

Yeah, I think my .700NE will have to sit this on out. That said, all you have to do is break the line for the higher value, so it isn't a horrible disadvantage...unless of course you're using a .700NE.

 

[leadaddict]

A quick attempt.

I'm using my lack of time today as my excuse, since I designed the target I can't use that excuse! I had about 25 minutes and shot three targets. (25 minutes included running downrange to setup the targets)

These will be scoped / unlimited. I am shooting my Savage 10fp, pre-accu-trigger, in .308. I bushnel 3200 10X scope. Using 110gn Hornady v-max over IMR 4320. Shot from front and rear bags. A very pleasant 72 degrees, but looking slightly into the setting sun.

Target #1 = 65 points My first two shots were low and left. I just missed having an 80 on this one!


Target #2 = 69 - I started out low again and gained courage to move up.


Target #3 = 60 - Almost a nice group, just too low


I hope to try again, but may not be able to as I broke my 308 die last month and haven't gotten a replacement yet. I'm almost out of loaded rounds. Maybe I'll try it prone, with the sling next time.

Here's my rifle:

 

[Maverick223]

Good shooting, Gregaw; it appears that you have taken the lead.