TallPine
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I probably shouldn't say this, but most of my neighbors don't lock their doors. They actually think it's rather bizarre that I do.
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They won't think it's so bizarre when they become victims. The majority of theft and burglary reports I took in a rural community didn't involve any forced entry, because the victim never felt they needed to lock things up.
Jeff
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I have a House in Town, and a Camping Trailer in the Country on my Ranch. The best security I've found is dogs for warning and guns if they get past the dogs. I've had home breakins all around me in town, but never one at my house. Good dogs are better than anything I've found to keep out intruders. 
Folk who post "clever" no trespass signs should evaluate how LEO or a jury will view those signs should lethal force ever be used.
My plan, when I have my own place out in the country, will be a few solar-powered motion activated lights near the house. I also plan on planting a hedge of holly or some other large spiky bush all the way around my "inner perimeter". And keeping large, friendly, but intelligent dogs.
John
My plan, when I have my own place out in the country, will be a few solar-powered motion activated lights near the house. I also plan on planting a hedge of holly or some other large spiky bush all the way around my "inner perimeter". And keeping large, friendly, but intelligent dogs.
John
TallPine
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I'm just stating the way it is. Folks seem to think it is more paranoid for me to lock my house doors than it is to carry a sidearm all the time.
Actually, I don't necessarily lock the door to prevent theft. If someone gets in when no one is home, they're going to get in.
But I want to know when I come home if someone has gotten into or is still in the house
And of course for evidence and insurance purposes for the police report.They are that way here too. They know all their neighbors and it's inconceivable to them that they may be victims.
That's true, but I've found that most thefts are crimes of opportunity, usually when a door is found open or something is left out.
Jeff
Some additional suggestions :
Don't pave your driveway. Don't smooth out your driveway. Driving on bumpy dirt road discourages people and slows down chance for a quick getaway.
Place a gate at the highway. Even if it is un-locked, most people don't want to get out and open a gate by the highway, where someone can see them and their vehicle.
Fence in your yard surrounding the house. Put up a large dog house visible from your driveway with large dog food bowl inside the fence. Paint some name like "Killer" on the dog food bowl and on the doghouse. Put "beware of dog" sign on drive by the highway and again by fence surrouding the house. Plant cacti or other prickly plants in strategic places.
Don't pave your driveway. Don't smooth out your driveway. Driving on bumpy dirt road discourages people and slows down chance for a quick getaway.
Place a gate at the highway. Even if it is un-locked, most people don't want to get out and open a gate by the highway, where someone can see them and their vehicle.
Fence in your yard surrounding the house. Put up a large dog house visible from your driveway with large dog food bowl inside the fence. Paint some name like "Killer" on the dog food bowl and on the doghouse. Put "beware of dog" sign on drive by the highway and again by fence surrouding the house. Plant cacti or other prickly plants in strategic places.
brighamr
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I have same day service from the LEOs about 30 miles away. In my case, I have flood lights surrounding the house, 2 dogs, and 2 gates.
My wife and I have gone over the possibility of someone approaching our house maliciously. Long story short, if they make it through gate one the dogs will have let us know. If they get through gate two, we can audibly hear them (even though the dogs would be tearing the door down by this point). If they actually make it up the stairs and to our front door, they'll be blind from the floodlights and deaf from the dogs barking. As soon as the door opens, the dogs will say hi, and my wife or I will greet the intruder with a muzzle.
Best preperation we can think of. Land mines would probably make our livestock a little uneasy
My wife and I have gone over the possibility of someone approaching our house maliciously. Long story short, if they make it through gate one the dogs will have let us know. If they get through gate two, we can audibly hear them (even though the dogs would be tearing the door down by this point). If they actually make it up the stairs and to our front door, they'll be blind from the floodlights and deaf from the dogs barking. As soon as the door opens, the dogs will say hi, and my wife or I will greet the intruder with a muzzle.
Best preperation we can think of. Land mines would probably make our livestock a little uneasy
THIS one, we've got covered. Matter of fact, if anybody wants some of ours, we can talk.....
That's a good point about the gate...and it needs to not be one that you can "nudge" open with the bumper, or that will open automatically when a car drives up. Our gate is closed with a length of chain that is clipped closed with a caribener (sp?). Nothing fancy, nothing where the fire department couldn't get in, but anyone coming has to have one person get out, open the gate, car drives through, then close the gate). More than likely, you could do that without anyone driving by out there, but then again....
Springmom
At my families ranch they have dogs. If anyone comes around those dogs bark like crazy. It would be imposible to not know someone was there unless you were deaf. Most people dont want to get out into the middle of four barking dogs that they dont know.
When I go down there I hear the dogs when I am hundreds of yards from the house approaching in my car.
I noramly would hate to have a dog that barked that much but there should never really be anyone on that road so visters are far and few and the dogs serve their purpose well.
Being in the middle of no where means I keep a rifle with me at all times, it is handy for varmints as well.
If you have plenty of property and like dogs they are hard to beat for rural security (I like them for urban security as well actually)
When I go down there I hear the dogs when I am hundreds of yards from the house approaching in my car.
I noramly would hate to have a dog that barked that much but there should never really be anyone on that road so visters are far and few and the dogs serve their purpose well.
Being in the middle of no where means I keep a rifle with me at all times, it is handy for varmints as well.
If you have plenty of property and like dogs they are hard to beat for rural security (I like them for urban security as well actually)
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I would avoid these signs: "Trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again." "Trespassers will be violated."
Pretty good ammunition when relatives of the deceased are in the process of taking everything you own or when an overzealous prosecutor is making you out to be "someone looking for a reason."
Pretty good ammunition when relatives of the deceased are in the process of taking everything you own or when an overzealous prosecutor is making you out to be "someone looking for a reason."
Geese. Nothing will sneak past them, they are territorial - and very very rough on trespassers.
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Loved the geese and turkey suggestions, in my experience ducks just run away but turkeys see your car and make a b-line straight toward you all ruffled up. Its actually quite scary.. especially to anybody not used to raising turkeys. Turkeys have big sharp claws they'll use for weapons, and yes they will use them on people faster than you can shake a stick at (I've tried shaking sticks at them to no avail).
Anyhow, Around these parts (somewhere in the midwest) grow wild thorn trees that would be perfect as a serious perimeter. I have not the slightest clue as to what species or even name these trees are, however they stretch just as tall and just as wide as many 'normal' trees around here. They are big and put any bush or cactus to serious shame as a form of natural defence.
They are very very dangerous as their thorns poke out in all directions including on the branches (watch your eyes). The average length thorns they produce for an average sized tree -which im just going to estimate is taller than a two story house- is about 4-6 inch thorns, the base of those thorns are about .50 inch wide give or take. They are as sharp and pokey as anything manmade I've ever come across and if your running in the dark or just not looking where your going I have no doubt they could kill you if you ran into the trunk.
Anyhow, Around these parts (somewhere in the midwest) grow wild thorn trees that would be perfect as a serious perimeter. I have not the slightest clue as to what species or even name these trees are, however they stretch just as tall and just as wide as many 'normal' trees around here. They are big and put any bush or cactus to serious shame as a form of natural defence.
They are very very dangerous as their thorns poke out in all directions including on the branches (watch your eyes). The average length thorns they produce for an average sized tree -which im just going to estimate is taller than a two story house- is about 4-6 inch thorns, the base of those thorns are about .50 inch wide give or take. They are as sharp and pokey as anything manmade I've ever come across and if your running in the dark or just not looking where your going I have no doubt they could kill you if you ran into the trunk.
sacp81170a
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Would that be the osage orange or bois d'arc tree? The plus for having them as part of your perimeter is that the wood makes great bows. I have some friends who are mountain man re-enactors and osage orange is the preferred wood for making period correct bows. I don't know about them killing you if you ran into the trunk, but you'd probably wish you were dead.
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