safe .44 mag defensive ammo?

[cajun47]

i fear that if i shot a bad guy with a .44 mag i could hit bystanders or neighbor's house.

don't they make .44 mag ammo with some sort of buckshot in them? good choice? what are they called?

 

[Nightcrawler]

You do not want to use shot rounds out of a revolver for personal defense. It's called "snakeshot" because it's not especially effective on anything larger. In something as thick as a human target, it won't penetrate deeply enough. It'll make a largely superficial wound.

If you're worried about penetration (I am too at home; apartments have thin walls), get yourself some Glaser Safety Slugs. They're some of the best pre-fragmented ammunition out there. The bonus is they'll be very lightly recoiling.

 

[cajun47]

http://cheaperthandirt.com/73132-5578-196.html

^^ that. those break up into many pieces?

 

[eliphalet]

Place a snake shot in the first cylinder and if that didn't "get er done" have the next bullet something solid.

 

[cajun47]

i found a picture of what those do! cant post the link cause its way too long.

should i get those for 9mm also or powerball(9mm).

 

[MassMark]

I could not get on to the server as they must be updating, but check out "The Box O Truth". Also check out our own JE223's ballistic testing, (he has a website). I'm not saying Glasers are bad, but there may be more effective options out there for you...Good luck!

 

[cajun47]

will do.

i remember seeing some .44mag ammo at a gunshow with 3 or 4 ball barrings or buckshot in them. this was long ago.

 

[Deer Hunter]

Some tunnel rats in vietnam carried snub-nose S&W 29s loaded with buckshot rounds.

 

[Ben Shepherd]

I'd really look into the cor-bon 165 grain offering for what you are trying to do.

 

[Deanimator]

There's no need to use magnums unless you really want to. I have both Federal and CCI 200gr. .44 Specials for my 4" Model 29-2. The Federals use a 200gr. LSWC-HP and are very similar to the .38 Special "FBI" load, only bigger. The CCI Blazers use a 200gr. Gold Dot JHP. Either one will put somebody down permanently without excessive danger of over-penetration.

 

[svtruth]

.44spl

has ballistics very close to .45acp.
Good luck.

 

[Plink]

get yourself some Glaser Safety Slugs. They're some of the best pre-fragmented ammunition out there.

Ever hunted anything with them? I have. They don't work worth dirt. They don't have enough penetration to get the job done unless you get really lucky with them.

I'd suggest looking into some of the .44 special self defense loads, like the Cor-Bon DPX. They're a lot less powerful than full power .44 magnum loads. About the same power as a .45 ACP.

 

[Geister]

i fear that if i shot a bad guy with a .44 mag i could hit bystanders or neighbor's house.

You could just as easily do this with a .357 Magnum or a .45 Auto. But to answer your question, use Speer's short barrel .44 Magnum ammo, which has a KE rating of 514 ft./lbs. Otherwise go all the way down to .44 Special.

 

[mavracer]

+1 on speer gold dot short bbl. and they double for shot glasses LOL

 

[351 WINCHESTER]

I'd hate to touch off a .44 mag. load indoors. Yes it would stop the bg, but your ears will be ringing for the rest of your life. Better off with the .44 special loads that expand. I for one don't trust the glasers as we recently tested their .38+P from a 4" and I think the m/v was only 1150fps. Printed on the back of the pack was 1700fps. It failed, and badly too. If this is any indication of their q/c forget it.

 

[Sundles]

Get some 44 cal. muzzle loadiing sabots. Fill them with modeling clay. Then load them on top of a very healthy charge of Power pistol powder in good 44 mag. brass. You can run these little devils at aound 2,000 fps out of a four inch barrel and they go splat if they hit a bad guy--they will likely go all the way through the bg and then be played out enough to be a non threat to the neighbors.

These things mushroom huge and leave a hole that is memorable.

 

[PzGren]

Sundles,

do you mean lead sabots or just the plastic wads around them?

 

[springmom]

I'd second the 44 special ammo. It has good ballistics and will do what you need to do. (And the recoil is enough less that it's not so difficult to keep target acquisition).

Springmom

 

[ArchAngelCD]

I would suggest loading your .44 Magnum with .44 Special rounds. I have a 4" .357 Magnum and load it with .38 Sp +P rounds for HD. You really don't want to squeeze of a round or two of .44 Magnum in a dark inclosed room in the middle of the night. Can you say Flash-Bang?? That's what it would be like...

 

[slow944]

go to gunblast.com and read Jeff Quinn's article about the Corbon 200gr, 44spl. ammo for self defence.

 

[Sundles]

PzGren,

I mean just the plastic wad--THAT is the sabot. At close range, they will go through a person, especially if you fill them with clay or some other soft stuff, but they peter out very quickly.

This obviously requires lots of work and lots of know how. It's probably much eassier to use 44 SPL ammo, but that stuff will over penetrate almost as bad as some 44 mag. ammo.

 

[envonge]

Buffalo Bore Ammunition 44 Remington Magnum +P+ 340 Grain Lead Flat Nose Gas Check

 

[philbo]

Another vote for a quality 44 special hollowpoint like Corbon DPX

 

[Seven For Sure]

Another vote for the Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel.

 

[Bula]

Buffalo Bore Ammunition 44 Remington Magnum +P+ 340 Grain Lead Flat Nose gas Check

What?

Evonge, I was waiting for you to suggest your twin 20mm machine gun instead.

Sorry to stray guys but....