Sell My 9mm and Go All Out with .45. What do People Think?

[hk lover]

Consolidating ammo

one should think about wshtf that maybe having more than one choice would be a good thing.suppose that you have several 45's and no ammo is to be found.i personally keep ammo for guns i dont even own because barter may become a very important tool in the future.i was also one that for a while that caliber commonality was a good thing until the current shortage came up and now i own all the major weapons and calibers.i can only imagine that ihave all one calier, and no ammo.

 

[Ed Ames]

I would think the recent ammo shortages would've taught people that diversity is a survival trait.

When things get tight you don't want to be staring at the last box of ammo on a store shelf, thinking, "man I wish I hadn't sold my ________, 'cuz without it that ammo is useless to me."

I wouldn't be selling off all of anything myself. I might not keep the nicest of something but I wouldn't go to zero

As for rangers... their opinions are based on coordinated group fighting techniques that are irrelevant to most of us, ergo their opinions are irrelevant to most of us.

 

[psyopspec]

I spoke with a Ranger currently on small leave from Iraq at my class reunion yesterday. He said that 45, 9mm - it didn't matter.

Did you advise him that 9mm will bounce off a windshield?

 

[Texshooter]

Well, if .45 is not the way to go (we are talking about defending your life here), then how could 9mm be better?

It can't be given almost all the civilian involved encounters I have found to be true, respecting distance, number of rounds discharged, etc.

Your choice to live with.

 

[30mag]

Get a 12-gauge if you are REALLY worried about inadequate stopping power.
Otherwise:
.44
.357
.45
9mm

Oh, you didn't ask about the .357?

 

[Radio]

I did read the entire thread and I only can add that I do not trust a semi-auto as a primary defensive weapon. I do carry a .45 as a backup, Glock 30, but my primary is a S&W 640 in .357 that always goes bang! It's all about your own personal level of comfort. Mine is a pre lock revolver first.

 

[BK]

Got both. Like both. Keep'n both.

 

[BHPshooter]

380 and 9mm can be loaded using basically the same dies

Christcorp, I certainly hope you're not attempting this -- 9mm and 380 CANNOT be reloaded using the same dies. The cases are VERY different.

The 9mm is a tapered case, the .380 is a straight-wall case.

If you are foolish enough to attempt this, at best you'll get some really unreliable reloads; At worst, you and any bystanders could suffer some really unpleasant damage.

Wes

 

[zxcvbob]

Sell My 9mm and Go All Out with .45. What do People Think?

I think you should keep your 9mm, and buy a .45. (preferably a .45 Colt rather than ACP) HTH

 

[30mag]

I did read the entire thread and I only can add that I do not trust a semi-auto as a primary defensive weapon. I do carry a .45 as a backup, Glock 30, but my primary is a S&W 640 in .357 that always goes bang! It's all about your own personal level of comfort. Mine is a pre lock revolver first.

Why would you ever use a gun you don't trust as a primary as a backup?

 

[4Freedom]

Been a while since I read the thread I started a long time ago. Well, I will say to keep people updated, I just purchased a S&W 629 44 mag for my birthday and if anything I will sell the 9mm and the ammo and stock up on 44 mag, assuming I can get it. I think 45ACP and 44 mag/44spl are good combination. However, to let everyone know I decided to keep my 9mm and not sell it or the ammo. The ammo is scarce for these guns and for the price I bought the ammo, its worth keeping it as a more powerful plinker than nothing else. Its really hard to sell a pretty gun that shoots such tight groups, I have to admit.

 

[wickedsprint]

I'm strongly considering this myself. I have 3 9mms that would all sell easily if I decide to. Then the issue becomes..how many .45s do I want?

I have a really nice series 80 that is a keeper, and a Glock 21 that is perfect for camping duty...but being a 1911 afficiando, I'll also want something without the FPS of the series 80..so likely one of their 70/WWI repros.

 

[one45auto]

I'm thinking of doing precisely the opposite, ditching my .45 ACP and sticking with the Glock 19. The big Colt is sweet, but it's one heck of a picky eater and jams easily (and regularly) with certain brands of ammo. I'm also not about to spend money I don't have making an unreliable gun reliable through endless refinements when I've got the Glock which digests everything I feed it and has never failed me yet. I also shoot the Glock better and it's lighter and feels more comfortable in the hand. Besides, when all is said and done a hit with a 9mm is better than a miss with a .45ACP and I'm one of those people who put faith in accuracy rather than caliber.

 

[psyopspec]

Been a while since I read the thread I started a long time ago. Well, I will say to keep people updated, I just purchased a S&W 629 44 mag for my birthday and if anything I will sell the 9mm and the ammo and stock up on 44 mag, assuming I can get it. I think 45ACP and 44 mag/44spl are good combination. However, to let everyone know I decided to keep my 9mm and not sell it or the ammo. The ammo is scarce for these guns and for the price I bought the ammo, its worth keeping it as a more powerful plinker than nothing else. Its really hard to sell a pretty gun that shoots such tight groups, I have to admit.

Good call!

 

[Rob P.]

I've heard the 9mm vs. .45 debate so much it makes my ears hurt.

Folks, you have to start thinking instead of just parroting the BS that is being peddled to you in order to get you to buy something.

MILITARY ball ammo is NOT DESIGNED for one-shot-one kill. It is designed to WOUND because a wounded trooper takes more manpower to care for than a dead trooper does.

Self defense ammo is designed for a different purpose and that purpose is NOT to "wound."

Statistics from one will not necessarily fit the bill for the other.

IMO, if you want good defensive weapon, pick the one that you can shoot accurately under stress. Then find ammo that is designed for self defense and proper penetration for that weapon. If tab A and slot B above don't fit, then find a different weapon until you get both parts aligned and assembled.

9mm is more than sufficient for self defense. .45 and .357 are also good self defense calibers. IMO you don't need anything larger or smaller as these 3 calibers come in packages that can easily be concealed on just about anyone's person.

 

[model of 1905]

My EDC now is a 1911 in 45 ACP. When I carry two (often) my secondary is a PM9. If I need to deep conceal when carrying a 1911 is not practical, its just the PM9 and I still feel confident that I am not underarmed. But, if hypothetically I had to choose between 9x19mm or .45ACP, it's a no-brainer. Give me the 45.

I prefer .357 sig to 9mm, dont and wont own a .40 S&W (just dont see the need). I may someday own a 1911 in 10mm. Love my XDm 9. I have a CW9 for sale. None of my 45s are.

For home defense, my handguns are for getting me to my shotguns. If I could conceal carry my M4 carbine, it would replace them all.

 

[Cards81fan]

've spent thousands of dollars on training (and will drop at least another $700 on training in June). Ammo is the least expensive part of my shooting.

I have a 1911 that cost me close to $3,000. The holster cost another $130 and the mag pouch was another $65. I just picked up 10, 10-round 1911 mags for a couple hundred. I rarely buy grips for under $100.

Even if ammo was $50 a box it would still be the cheapest part of shooting.

I respectably disagree. Shooting can be expensive, but those numbers are just excessive.

I have a used, pawn shop Springfield XD in .40 S&W I purchased for one tenth the cost of your .45. That included an serviceable OWB holster. If I want a custom grip, it'd cost me about $8.95. I can add additional calibers to my same gun, .357 SIG and 9mm, at one-time costs of $159.99 and $159.99 plus a magazine, respectively.

Ammo costs me $15 a box after tax, give or take, for Blazer from Wal*Mart. I buy a $26 new box or two of Speer a year, just to run the old through the gun. If I shoot with any regularity, the ammunition is the most expensive cost to the the hobby.

Not everyone can can afford that type of money on a firearm. Even those who can choose not to for various reasons. If you and I were to shoot competitively and compare scores, you'd probably win. I'm confident the gun would not be the limiter.

 

[Deanimator]

MILITARY ball ammo is NOT DESIGNED for one-shot-one kill. It is designed to WOUND because a wounded trooper takes more manpower to care for than a dead trooper does.

NO, it's NOT.

Speaking of thinking, if what you say were the truth, why doesn't the military teach its personnel to SHOOT to wound? I never saw it in the Army, neither has anyone I've ever known who was in the Marines, Navy or Air Force. And how many of YOUR troops does it take to carry YOU after you've wounded an enemy soldier who was capable of fighting back and wounded YOU in return?

FMJs are used because they penetrate cover better and because of humanitarian concerns. Apparently, you've never heard of the Hague Conventions.

 

[LightningJoe]

Don't be silly. If 9mm can't do it, neither can .45 Auto.

 

[augustino]

switch from 9MM to 45?

No question for me, I've done just that.
I a small man, one that strives for peaceful, rational solutions to any disagreements. I hate violence and deplore the thought of one man killing another. It sickens me and I PRAY that this day will never enter into my life.
But unfortunately not everyone feels or thinks this way. So after talking with a few police officers, bondsmen and reading accounts from vets regarding the stopping power of their 9MM issued pistols, I sold my BHP, which I loved and purchased a Glock 30.
Reason for the 30 is reliability, 10 round capacity and a pistol that's RELATIVELY small enough to conceal yet gives me 10 rounds in the mag with 1 in the chamber if I decide to carry chambered.
So yes it's 45 for me but I didn't sell my HK P7 M8 which is brand new. This I feel will gain in value and so I put 4 mags (32 rounds) through it, cleaned ultra clean and back into the original case. It's been there for the last few years. I can't bring myself to sell that "cocker" pistol!

 

[ElToro]

now im emtionally involved after reading all this.
to the OP
1st, dont sell your guns unless your kids are starving, you will always regret it.

2nd, MY opinion is that almost any premium hollow point in hand is better than ball ammo of the same or bigger caliber ( when comparing 9mm to 40 to 45)

3rd, where i live a CCW is effectively unobtainable, so i dont carry. my home defense guns rotate bewteen a 229R in 40 loaded with speer 165 GD and a 1911 loaded with 230 Winchester ranger, i decided against the +p ranger as the extra recoil for another 75 ft ps doesnt seem worth it.

i picked these 2 rounds becuase of what i have read about them as well as i was able to obtain sufficent quantity at good price that i could test several hundred rounds.

that doesnt mean im going to throw out my .22, .38/357, 10, 44, and 9mm handguns.

if i was going to an insurection, i would proibly take a glock 20 or 21 with as many standard cap mags as possible

 

[augustino]

Reply to ElToro about selling firearms...

Eltoro is 100% correct!
Over the course of time I've sold one or two firearms and to this very day I regret having done so. I sold my BHP and still wish I had it. And this counts for just about every firearm I've ever sold, I to this very day still wish I had them.

But unfortunately my appetite for these engineering masterpieces exceeds my income & budget. Thus sell what I haven't used.

But you're right, I regret having sold each and every one and IF possible I would love to have them all back again. So think about what eltoro said because he's right and I agree with him 100%.

Sell it and you're sure to regret it.

 

[cityslicker]

The problems with the 9mm 4FREEDOM speaks of are 100% correct. In military form, the 9mm ball ammo is NOT a very good performer, and doing house raids in Iraq, the Berretta is used quite often as a primary weapon. The 45acp ball is a much better choice. That being said! With todays technology and all the HP bullets on the market, I think we can agree that the 9mm will get the job done. But!! (I'll take the 45 any day)

 

[ElToro]

Augustino- thanks man !

 

[shiftyer1]

I have 2 9mm's 1 .357 1 .45 1011 and 1 .22 lr revolver. The one that get shot the most is the 22 next is the .45. .357 is next if i can find ammo i love the trigger on the old blackhawk. I'm not sure why I quit firin the .9's but they still find carry duty, on me or in the truck.