BobWright
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a single action revolver is for leisure activities like target shooting.
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Your opinion, of course, to which you are indeed entitled, but mine also protects my hide.
Bob Wright
a single action revolver is for leisure activities like target shooting.
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Wrong.Draw
Aim
Cock
Engage trigger
I'd like to go slow here, as I THINK I understand what you're saying. If so, my first response might be "are single actions the only handguns you ever have, and ever will fire?"
Bob, you have my utmost respect, but I humbly submit that in 2021 you are one of the only people I've communicated with who uses one for hide preservation.Your opinion, of course, to which you are indeed entitled, but mine also protects my hide.
Bob Wright
Okay so I went back and looked some footage of me shooting a SAA at at couple of action pistol matches.I'm going to agree with Bob on this one. Clint Smith made this point years ago, that "finger off the trigger" does not mean finger out of the triggerguard. This non-negotiable safety-Nazi practice of "finger off the trigger" has mutated into never putting your finger into the triggerguard. Further, if you are drawing your sidearm to engage a threat, the decision has already been made to fire the weapon. As soon as the sixgun clears leather, the hammer should start coming back and the finger goes into the triggerguard. the finger does not go onto the trigger until the gun comes up and you are ready to fire. The decision can be made NOT to fire at any time.
Wrong.
Just what is your adversary doing as you bring the gun to "eye level?" More than likely pumping 9mm pills through you from his wonder nine.
Bob Wright
That's what Alec said.Also have large hands, long fingers.
For approximately 150 years, I believe the suggested way to carry a single action revolver (SAR) has been/is hammer down on an empty chamber. Load one, skip one, load remaining, place hammer down on empty chamber. Currently do so with all types/makes of SAR, so no amount of trigger pull or unplanned hammer action will discharge the firearm.
So, I too "draw" or "carry unholstered" SAR with finger in trigger guard. Only cock the hammer when I intend to shoot, which for some SAR - is the only way the sights can be fully visualized.
Know my finger in guard may not be optimal......
Around here the hogs and deer aren't allowed to shoot back.It has been proven time and time again that any infinitesimal time lost in bringing the pistol up to eye level is more than offset by the gain in accuracy.
Well, obviously not. Some rules just don't apply to some people under some conditions. Not all safety precautions are necessary. Right?The OP only owns a Ruger Wrangler. No other hand guns. So as long as he is safe with that gun he should be OK. But drawing a gun with your finger resting on the trigger is a bad habit to get into.
I'm going to agree with Bob on this one. Clint Smith made this point years ago, that "finger off the trigger" does not mean finger out of the triggerguard. This non-negotiable safety-Nazi practice of "finger off the trigger" has mutated into never putting your finger into the triggerguard. Further, if you are drawing your sidearm to engage a threat, the decision has already been made to fire the weapon. As soon as the sixgun clears leather, the hammer should start coming back and the finger goes into the triggerguard. the finger does not go onto the trigger until the gun comes up and you are ready to fire. The decision can be made NOT to fire at any time.
Wrong.
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i was once witness to the negligent outdoors discharge of a ruger bearcat 22lr single action revolver. bringing the bearcat into quick action while walking. bearcat comes out of strongside holster. hammer cocked, finger moves inside trigger guard, muzzle rising to acquire target, left foot scuffs slight rise in ground, handgun discharges into dirt just 3” in front of right foot. rudely sobering wakeup call................................................................
The four rules are universal.
You're giving away precious fractions of a second and there's nothing unsafe about what I suggested. Brian Pearce even wrote an article about it.Use what works for you.
Never a ND and hit my target.
I will stay with safety.
You're giving away precious fractions of a second and there's nothing unsafe about what I suggested. Brian Pearce even wrote an article about it.
As you draw the sixgun from its holster, your thumb should already be on the hammer. As it clears leather, it is considerd to be pointed downrange, the hammer should start coming back. Finger should be inside the triggerguard. By the time the gun is leveled at the threat, your finger should be on the trigger so that when the sights come up, you're ready to fire. If you've waited until after you've acquired the target to cock the hammer and put your finger on the trigger, you've probably doubled your time to draw and fire the first shot.
These are the sorts of details that we should be talking about when this subject comes up. Rather than arguing with the naysayers who tell us not to do it in the first place.
Exactly...You all do know that nothing goes bang in a single action until the hammer drops. Many of us in Cowboy action shooting have the trigger depressed first and "slip hammer " the shooting sequence.I gotta say, when it comes is SA revolvers, it's the hammer that I treat as the "not until you're ready to fire" part of the equation. By the time that's coming back, my finger is already in the trigger guard, because I know I'm about to shoot.
A single action revolver is for leisure activities like target shooting.
........bad habits.
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Perhaps for your world?
Many use their SAR for hunting, woods safety, homestead protection, plus perhaps an occasional inanimate target.
Locally, we have a feral dog issue. Sunny this afternoon, temp mid 40s, very pleasant watching the world go by at intersection of hay lot and corn field. Could hear a ruckus in the woods behind me, some seconds later a nice doe gallops out of woods, across hay lot - 10 seconds behind are a dog duo. FA83 finger on trigger spoke to the matter, hopefully the doe will meet a nice buck in the next few weeks.
Sorry if my bad habits trouble some.
Hammer down on an empty chamber...Doesn't matter modern, replica, original. Safe is safe.LOL!! Okay so from now on the common SAR wisdom of this site is: carry hammer down with your finger on the trigger with six loaded in a modern SAR. Can we throw in texting while driving, especially if you’re going really fast? Is eating razor blades and juggling rattlesnakes still a bad idea?
It has been proven time and time again that any infinitesimal time lost in bringing the pistol up to eye level is more than offset by the gain in accuracy.
Then why does it matter how many rounds are in the cylinder? New model Rugers have safety hammers, transfer bars, all imported reproduction 1873’s pass drop tests, why stick with outdated dogma about only carrying five? Nothing goes bang until the hammer drops. Fingers on triggers and thumbs on hammers before the draw. Why not? That old rule doesn’t apply to New Models.Exactly...You all do know that nothing goes bang in a single action until the hammer drops. Many of us in Cowboy action shooting have the trigger depressed first and "slip hammer " the shooting sequence.
got to go with CraigC, I have been shooting SA this way for better than 40 years and have yet to find myself with my finger in the trigger guard of my SA/DA revolvers, or any of the bottom feeders.I'm going to agree with Bob on this one. Clint Smith made this point years ago, that "finger off the trigger" does not mean finger out of the triggerguard. This non-negotiable safety-Nazi practice of "finger off the trigger" has mutated into never putting your finger into the triggerguard. Further, if you are drawing your sidearm to engage a threat, the decision has already been made to fire the weapon. As soon as the sixgun clears leather, the hammer should start coming back and the finger goes into the triggerguard. the finger does not go onto the trigger until the gun comes up and you are ready to fire. The decision can be made NOT to fire at any time.
Wrong.