btw it is very possible that your ford focus is as fast as a nascar........over the course of 30 feet.
yes.....that is exactly my point.......
and it is very possible for an inaccurate gun, to shoot as well as an accurate one......at 50 yds.
btw it is very possible that your ford focus is as fast as a nascar........over the course of 30 feet.
Tape said:if you take two different weapons and vise both of them at a indoor range and shoot 5 rounds each, both weapons will only print 1 hole.
Tape said:let's not make rules as we go, I'm going to prove what I posted on this thread.
Tape said:I will bet anything that a human cannot shoot 3 bullets of their choice and leave 1 hole at 50 yards
1stmarine said:Sniper systems are in the upwards of $14K gear included just to start talking.
Then that is nothing compared to all the work of load development and training. In the end the system is nothing compared to what is needed to all the training and long hours to achieve great results. In the military is hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars for an elite sniper team of 2.
If you mean a 0.00" group, no rifle will do that in a machine rest either.I will bet anything that a human cannot shoot 3 bullets of their choice and leave 1 hole at 50 yards
I didn't say they did. I was using BR records and some of my "non BR" 3-round groups to disproveZak --3 shot groups don't count for squat in BR shooting, it's 5 shots or five or ten target with one shot each shooting for Xs.
I will bet anything that a human cannot shoot 3 bullets of their choice and leave 1 hole at 50 yards
Hey sam, go ahead and lock this up, it's going no where!
Except that random chance IS a factor. Getting a 2/3rd MOA group of 25 at 50 yards is unlikely to ever happen again with the gun. (if it does, I'll continue to be amazed) OTOH my hunting rifle regularly, repeatably, consistantly shoots 1/3rd MOA benched and bagged with quality hunting ammo or handloads.It takes practice, knowledge and skill and a good rifle and good ammo to shoot a one hole group. Chance isn't really a factor. Sure chance helps but if you're shooting well there's a good possibility of shooting a one hole group.
Nope, just pointing out that random chance is a factor.If you're implying my group was random chance you're mistaken.
m-21, you really can go wrong with a springfield, if you can afford it
Except that random chance IS a factor. Getting a 2/3rd MOA group of 25 at 50 yards is unlikely to ever happen again with the gun. (if it does, I'll continue to be amazed) OTOH my hunting rifle regularly, repeatably, consistantly shoots 1/3rd MOA benched and bagged with quality hunting ammo or handloads.
The co-owner of my local gun shop just graduated from the Army Sniper program after two months of training. He completed the course using his own Remington action in an AICS with a Nightforce scope and his own SCAR heavy with a Leupold Mark 4 3.5-10x.
nope, I didn't wanted it closed, see how you all play into my hand I'll let you speculate until I'm ready.But, so we can stop speculating, will you please state clearly what your theory actually is? What is it you feel you can prove with your test equipment? If you put it in specifics, maybe folks will stop accusing you of believing unbelievable things that you don't actually believe!
Thank you.