Jkwas
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Only the 2nd and 3rd generations are Pro models. Don't get a non-Pro. Go to the taurus website for more info. 
Taurus Millennium Pro owners?
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oscarswanson
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Love it so far....
Marshall
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Thanks.
Why is it SA/DA instead of DA/SA? Isn't DA the first shot and SA every shot thereafter? What am I missing?
Why is it SA/DA instead of DA/SA? Isn't DA the first shot and SA every shot thereafter? What am I missing?
Jkwas, the third gen should have the word "Millenium" on one side of the slide and "PRO" with the model # on the other side of the slide.
Marshall, When you chamber a round in the third gen PRO series, racking the slide fully cocks the stiker and there is no decocker.
Don't get my other post wrong. I didn't mean to knock the PRO.
The PT111 PRO I had was 100% reliable, but it just was not a good fit for me.
Marshall, When you chamber a round in the third gen PRO series, racking the slide fully cocks the stiker and there is no decocker.
Don't get my other post wrong. I didn't mean to knock the PRO.
The PT111 PRO I had was 100% reliable, but it just was not a good fit for me.
the second gen will say millennium pro on left side. the third gen will just say millennium on the left and pro on the right after the model #... like PT111 Pro.
Also another very easy way to tell is the third gen will have a letter Z as either the first OR second character in the serial number.
From all I've read online the first gen (non pro) were complete junk. The second gen DAO were much better but still have their share of problems. And the third SA/DA gen has had very very little negative feedback. Actually most who shoot it fall in love with it and replace their CC.
Also another very easy way to tell is the third gen will have a letter Z as either the first OR second character in the serial number.
From all I've read online the first gen (non pro) were complete junk. The second gen DAO were much better but still have their share of problems. And the third SA/DA gen has had very very little negative feedback. Actually most who shoot it fall in love with it and replace their CC.
PT 145 Millenium "PRO"
Thanks to all for the information.
I have a PT-145 on hold at a local dealer and the serial number begins with "NZL" , and has just the wording "Millenium" on the left side, so I can safely assume this is a 3rd generation?
Guess I was confused by the picture of the PT 145 on the Taurus web site as the picture they have must be a 2nd generation picture. (http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?id=40&category=Pistol)
Thanks to all for the information.
I have a PT-145 on hold at a local dealer and the serial number begins with "NZL" , and has just the wording "Millenium" on the left side, so I can safely assume this is a 3rd generation?
Guess I was confused by the picture of the PT 145 on the Taurus web site as the picture they have must be a 2nd generation picture. (http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?id=40&category=Pistol)
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KaliS-Pugilist
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hcb42, good going with the new purchase. im sure that when you get it in your hand and fire some rounds you will be just as satisfied as the rest of us. WELCOME TO THE FAMILY!!! you can get more specific info on this lil hand cannons over at the new taurus forum, www.taurusarmed.net check it out...
from the description you gave it appears you do indeed have a 3rd Generation model. just to clarify, i believe that there are two 3rd generation models actually (one manufactured after 3/2006 approximately). the latest models have the SA/DA and heinie sights. just about all of them that you can find now will be the latest 3rd gen. and fairly easy to identify.
congrats and shoot safe...
from the description you gave it appears you do indeed have a 3rd Generation model. just to clarify, i believe that there are two 3rd generation models actually (one manufactured after 3/2006 approximately). the latest models have the SA/DA and heinie sights. just about all of them that you can find now will be the latest 3rd gen. and fairly easy to identify.
congrats and shoot safe...
koja48
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No problems with mine . . . use it for a weak-side back-up or when attire prohibits adequately concealing my 1911.
PT 145 picked up
Picked up my PT145 today and did a cleaning when I got home. Found barrel very dirty, rails without any lube, and what appeared to be more than a test firing black residue inside, and near ejector slot. Also front sight white dot didn't look uniform. The dealer said that's the way it came in. I called Taurus to complain about the conditon of the gun and received a cold resonse from customer care. Customer care said there should be packing lube on the gun and some residue from the test firing. Except, it appeared lacking any lube/oil of any kind. It just didn't look right as compared with two other pistols purchsed previously (both non Taurus). Anyone remember what condition their PT145 was in when received? In addtion the front sight, where mounted on the slide housing appeared to have a machining defect on the left side. Looks strange. Going to take it to a range and try it out tomorrow morning. (Taurus customer care when given the serial number told me this PT145 was manufactued exactly a month ago, and when it was shipped to a vendor.) Just wondering if others out there had questioned the conditon of theirs when received.
Picked up my PT145 today and did a cleaning when I got home. Found barrel very dirty, rails without any lube, and what appeared to be more than a test firing black residue inside, and near ejector slot. Also front sight white dot didn't look uniform. The dealer said that's the way it came in. I called Taurus to complain about the conditon of the gun and received a cold resonse from customer care. Customer care said there should be packing lube on the gun and some residue from the test firing. Except, it appeared lacking any lube/oil of any kind. It just didn't look right as compared with two other pistols purchsed previously (both non Taurus). Anyone remember what condition their PT145 was in when received? In addtion the front sight, where mounted on the slide housing appeared to have a machining defect on the left side. Looks strange. Going to take it to a range and try it out tomorrow morning. (Taurus customer care when given the serial number told me this PT145 was manufactued exactly a month ago, and when it was shipped to a vendor.) Just wondering if others out there had questioned the conditon of theirs when received.
ZeSpectre
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My understanding is that third gen is basically "single action with restrike capability".
Personally I think that is kind of odd but mine is a 2'nd gen with the DAO trigger which is my personal preference for regular carry especially since I'm a southpaw and really don't use the safety.
Oh and HCB42, my 2'nd gen PT-140 was EXTREMELY dirty around the ejector port (though strangely the barrel was shiny clean) and had little/no lube internally when I got it. No big deal to me as I consider all guns to be greased up for shipping NOT shooting so I detail strip everything, degrease it all, and re-lube with my preferred lubricants before it ever goes to the range.
PT 145 SA/DA
First I woud like to say thank you for the responses to questions. The comments have been very helpful to me.
Picked up my PT 145 and fired off a box at a nearby range. I was impressed. The PT 145 is a nice gun for the money. I was consistently 1- 3 " of center. (Not the gun's fault.. mine as a newbie to pistols.. coming over from wheel guns.) Mine is a 3rd generation with DA/SA mentioned in the previous comments above. Once you pull the slide back and load a round it fires just like a SA with a very light pull, like the Ruger SP101 I have in SA mode. Even with the "three safety features" mentioned on the Taurus web site (manual safety lever, trigger block mechanism and a firing pin block) it's hard for me to imagine carrying the PT145 with a round loaded in the chamber for fear that a hard knock might set off the round in the chamber.
I know on my Ruger SP101 there is a "transfer bar" that allows for firing only when the trigger is pressed all the way rearward, and Ruger says the revolver is safe to carry fully loaded. I've seen the transfer bar work and I do feel safe carrying my SP101 loaded.
For the Taurus I have read "the gun also has a self-engaging firing pin block that doesn’t release until or unless the trigger is squeezed all the way to the rear." This sounds similar to the Ruger but I have only read that it operates on the PT145's with DAO operation. Is this safety feature also on the 3rd generation DA/SA PT145's ?
I guess what I am asking is, with a round loaded in the chamber of a PT145 3rd generation would you feel safe carrying as a concealed weapon?
First I woud like to say thank you for the responses to questions. The comments have been very helpful to me.
Picked up my PT 145 and fired off a box at a nearby range. I was impressed. The PT 145 is a nice gun for the money. I was consistently 1- 3 " of center. (Not the gun's fault.. mine as a newbie to pistols.. coming over from wheel guns.) Mine is a 3rd generation with DA/SA mentioned in the previous comments above. Once you pull the slide back and load a round it fires just like a SA with a very light pull, like the Ruger SP101 I have in SA mode. Even with the "three safety features" mentioned on the Taurus web site (manual safety lever, trigger block mechanism and a firing pin block) it's hard for me to imagine carrying the PT145 with a round loaded in the chamber for fear that a hard knock might set off the round in the chamber.
I know on my Ruger SP101 there is a "transfer bar" that allows for firing only when the trigger is pressed all the way rearward, and Ruger says the revolver is safe to carry fully loaded. I've seen the transfer bar work and I do feel safe carrying my SP101 loaded.
For the Taurus I have read "the gun also has a self-engaging firing pin block that doesn’t release until or unless the trigger is squeezed all the way to the rear." This sounds similar to the Ruger but I have only read that it operates on the PT145's with DAO operation. Is this safety feature also on the 3rd generation DA/SA PT145's ?
I guess what I am asking is, with a round loaded in the chamber of a PT145 3rd generation would you feel safe carrying as a concealed weapon?
"I guess what I am asking is, with a round loaded in the chamber of a PT145 3rd generation would you feel safe carrying as a concealed weapon?"
I recently bought a 3rd gen. PT111 and would definitely carry it w/ a round loaded. If for some reason the firing pin was released without me pulling the trigger first the firing pin block would still be in place and would, well, block the firing pin from hitting the primer. No trigger pull = no BANG.
I recently bought a 3rd gen. PT111 and would definitely carry it w/ a round loaded. If for some reason the firing pin was released without me pulling the trigger first the firing pin block would still be in place and would, well, block the firing pin from hitting the primer. No trigger pull = no BANG.
ZeSpectre
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I understand your question on a very basic level as it was the same question I had before I bought my Taurus. The PT-XXX series pistols all have a firing pin interruptor that ONLY moves out of the way when the trigger is pulled. (this also makes the pistol "drop safe"). These pistols (and, for that matter any "drop safe" modern design I can think of) can be carried with a round in the chamber as long as you keep your finger OFF the trigger until ready to fire. Even if the firing pin somehow snapped loose from the trigger sear the interruptor bar/pin is still in the way and will NOT let the firing pin hit the primer.
Along with this is knowing that your holster should enclose the trigger to keep any foreign object from depressing the trigger. This is ESPECIALLY true with pocket carry as pens, keys, etc could cause problems.
I had to work on myself for a while to go from carrying the pistol without a round in the chamber to being comfortable with having a live round in the chamber. Take your time, work on it, you'll get there too.
Always keep the four rules in mind and you'll stay out of trouble.
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briansp82593
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lol nice
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Most all modern semiautos and including many 1911 designs use a type of firing pin block. The block sits vertically to the firing pin and locks in a channel to prevent movement of the pin. Spring pressure keeps it applied and it takes a manual pull of the trigger to force a ram against the firing pin block to move it so the firing pin can fire. I suppose it could break and allow the firing pin to move but so could a transfer bar too and get stuck between the hammer and pin.
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Based on this thread I picked up a couple
I was going to get a Glock 19 because they are the lightest weight 9mms I've found in my area. After reading the thread here however, I found the MP in 9mm stainless for $299, 3rd generation. I picked up two stainless models. I'm planning on a range trip tomorrow. The comments here sold me, plus the fact the unloaded model only ways 18.5 ounces I believe 2 ounces less than Glocks. All of the other polymer guns I've checked out start out around 27 ounces empty, and that's too heavy for me to carry all day. I doubt I'll even much notice the Millennium Pro on my hip!
Thanks for the link to the taurusarmed site. As for the safety on the Pro, my early impression is its safety is just as secure as a 1911's and perhaps a bit better than the Hi Power I used to own.
I was going to get a Glock 19 because they are the lightest weight 9mms I've found in my area. After reading the thread here however, I found the MP in 9mm stainless for $299, 3rd generation. I picked up two stainless models. I'm planning on a range trip tomorrow. The comments here sold me, plus the fact the unloaded model only ways 18.5 ounces I believe 2 ounces less than Glocks. All of the other polymer guns I've checked out start out around 27 ounces empty, and that's too heavy for me to carry all day. I doubt I'll even much notice the Millennium Pro on my hip!
Thanks for the link to the taurusarmed site. As for the safety on the Pro, my early impression is its safety is just as secure as a 1911's and perhaps a bit better than the Hi Power I used to own.
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Wow, looks like a nice little gun. That one I'm unfamiliar with. Previous Keltec 9s I've seen were too small for me.
freebird
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Mill Pro
I have the second generation PT 145. Absolutely love it!!!!! My wife shoots it very well as well but she is looking at getting a 9mm. I guess my question is on the new 3rd generation Mill Pro's are they SA\DA or DA\SA? I hear everyone worried about no decocker but that does not bother me. My question is this. Is the first shot single action and all others double action? Or is the first shot double action and the following single? I am still confused on this issue. Any help would be appreciated!!! How does the trigger pull feel compaired to my DA only PT 145?
I have the second generation PT 145. Absolutely love it!!!!! My wife shoots it very well as well but she is looking at getting a 9mm. I guess my question is on the new 3rd generation Mill Pro's are they SA\DA or DA\SA? I hear everyone worried about no decocker but that does not bother me. My question is this. Is the first shot single action and all others double action? Or is the first shot double action and the following single? I am still confused on this issue. Any help would be appreciated!!! How does the trigger pull feel compaired to my DA only PT 145?
Florida_Cracker
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Freebird,
I sent my 3rd Generation PT-145 to Miami for FTFs with JHPs.
Otherwise I really liked it and can't wait to get it back. Just hope they actually fix it.
Anyway the 3rd Generation is Single Action on every shot. It only reverts to Double Action if you have a misfire giving you a second strike capability.
Greg
I sent my 3rd Generation PT-145 to Miami for FTFs with JHPs.
Otherwise I really liked it and can't wait to get it back. Just hope they actually fix it.
Anyway the 3rd Generation is Single Action on every shot. It only reverts to Double Action if you have a misfire giving you a second strike capability.
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