The wife and I are talking about moving to Texas after I retire my question is this. Although I currently live in Pa. and have a permit from here plus a Utah carry permit will I still have to take the class in order to obtain a permit in Texas?
The class is 4 hours, plus a 50 round qualification that adds another half hour or so depending on how many other students are in the class. You should be able to ace the test and qualification. Your total cash outlay (fee, fingerprints, class, range time, etc) should be about $250 unless you qualify for one of the discounts, and it will end up taking a day or so of your time, and a few months to fully complete.
$250 versus $20 in Pennsylvania..
The class is 4 hours, plus a 50 round qualification that adds another half hour or so depending on how many other students are in the class. You should be able to ace the test and qualification. Your total cash outlay (fee, fingerprints, class, range time, etc) should be about $250 unless you qualify for one of the discounts, and it will end up taking a day or so of your time, and a few months to fully complete.
Actually Texas does have open carry. You can carry on your own property and on anyone else's that gives you permission to carry. Since darn near all of Texas is private property all you gotta do is get permission and that includes being on someone's property other than your own to begin with before worrying about carrying a gun around in plain sight.
I was born and raised in the state. Times were tough there when I finished school and I had to leave to get a job. Then I started seeing the difference between it and some other states in the southwest. No public land to speak of and none where I grew up, Various other things like high property and sales taxes compared to where I live now. I now own the farm I grew up on but you couldn't drag me kicking and screaming back to the place and make me live there.
That's the general idea although the changes don't happen every legislative session. To give you an idea of the progress so far:Hopefully y'all can farther improve your carry laws in each legislative session going forward.
doubleh's quote, as written, is correct, though somewhat pointless. You can open carry handguns on private property with the property owner's permission. That doesn't provide much legal leeway, but there you have it.Warp said:No...it does not.
Not for handguns.
That's the general idea although the changes don't happen every legislative session. To give you an idea of the progress so far:
When the law was passed in 1995, the initial class was 10 hours. Renewals were every 4 years, and a renewal class/qualification was required at that interval.
Now, the initial class has been shortened by about half, renewals can be done online every 5 years and there is no renewal class/qualification requirement.doubleh's quote, as written, is correct, though somewhat pointless. You can open carry handguns on private property with the property owner's permission. That doesn't provide much legal leeway, but there you have it.
You are correct that the open carry of handguns on public property is not legal for non-LEOs except in some very limited circumstances.
Yeah, that's like if I said concealed carry is legal in DC because I can carry my handgun concealed inside my house.JohnKSa said:doubleh's quote, as written, is correct, though somewhat pointless. You can open carry handguns on private property with the property owner's permission. That doesn't provide much legal leeway, but there you have it.
Be aware....Texas is very different from PA. You should visit and decide if it is really for you.
Actually Texas does have open carry. You can carry on your own property and on anyone else's that gives you permission to carry. Since darn near all of Texas is private property all you gotta do is get permission and that includes being on someone's property other than your own to begin with before worrying about carrying a gun around in plain sight.
Sec. 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun, illegal knife, or club if the person is not:
(1) on the person's own premises or premises under the person's control; or
(2) inside of or directly en route to a motor vehicle or watercraft that is owned by the person or under the person's control.
(a-1) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun in a motor vehicle or watercraft that is owned by the person or under the person's control at any time in which:
(1) the handgun is in plain view; or
(2) the person is:
(A) engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic or boating;
(B) prohibited by law from possessing a firearm; or
(C) a member of a criminal street gang, as defined by Section 71.01.
(a-2) For purposes of this section, "premises" includes real property and a recreational vehicle that is being used as living quarters, regardless of whether that use is temporary or permanent. In this subsection, "recreational vehicle" means a motor vehicle primarily designed as temporary living quarters or a vehicle that contains temporary living quarters and is designed to be towed by a motor vehicle. The term includes a travel trailer, camping trailer, truck camper, motor home, and horse trailer with living quarters.
(a-3) For purposes of this section, "watercraft" means any boat, motorboat, vessel, or personal watercraft, other than a seaplane on water, used or capable of being used for transportation on water.
(b) Except as provided by Subsection (c), an offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.
(c) An offense under this section is a felony of the third degree if the offense is committed on any premises licensed or issued a permit by this state for the sale of alcoholic beverages.
dodge said:will I still have to take the class in order to obtain a permit in Texas?