The biggest joke in the Firearms industry...

[Kynoch]

The fact that you're posting in this thread indicates otherwise. If this were a Hipoint thread, would you be posting in it?

So very true.

 

[Kynoch]

And this is the problem, I love innovation, I love a company that put out what no one else will. I Hate when a business is run poorly, maybe it's because I was in charge of getting rid of ineptitude in business for several years, I am almost to the point of no longer supporting Kel-Tec because of it.

Unless you are privy to KT's balance sheet and income statement (and you're not because it's privately held), you have no idea if KT is "run poorly" from a business standpoint.

I haven't had any problems with my P3AT that has been my EDC for a little more then a year now (the cerakoting has worn off on the edges of the slide from my jeans but that isn't KelTec's fault). I have been thinking about this since this thread was started and while I do think there are some good theories and some of them are probably accurate I also think that one of the major problems is that the company seems to be run by an engineer. Nothing against engineers, they are some of the smartest people I have ever met, but I have known very few who have the acumen to run a business (maybe that isn't a fair representation, but that has been my experience).

Like Bill Ruger? Like Ron Coburn of Savage? That comment is simply nonsensical.

After considering the arguments thus far I think I stand by my statement, showing a new product at an industry show and then blaming other factors when you miss your full production target date by 1.5+ years is irresponsible from a business standpoint. It alienates customers and gives your competition an (albeit potential) upper hand thus reducing the profitability of your company.

Really? "Irresponsible", huh? Microsoft did it for years. They still do it. So does Apple. It certainly has not hurt their financials.

I believe that with the start-up funds I could be producing in two years what Kel-Tec has been unable to produce in five, and be doing it profitably, honestly I have been thinking about this more and more in the last couple of days.

Sure you could...

 

[TennJed]

Actually as of 2010:

S&W, Ruger, Beretta, Sig Sauer and Taurus produced more handguns in the USA then Kel-Tec did. Unless KT has ramped-up production, that makes them #6.

I am on my cell phone now so I can't link articles, but a google search of "kel tec third largest" brings up quite a few sources stating they are 3 largest handgun manufacturer according to the ATF

I will look over it again when I get home and try to link some sources

 

[Warp]

The fact that you're posting in this thread indicates otherwise. If this were a Hipoint thread, would you be posting in it?

lol

You can think whatever you want, but I promise you that you are very, very wrong in claiming that I am posting in this thread because I have an interest in Kel Tec products.

As I have very clearly and concisely stated, I used to own some Kel Tec products. I determined that they were crap. Unfortunately I didn't do as much research prior to purchase then as I do now, otherwise I would have known to expect as much.

I am posting in this thread, believe it or not *gasp*, because I feel that my knowledge and experience on this topic might be useful to another person. I would not be posting in a Hipoint thread because I have no experience with them to post about.

 

[GhostlyKarliion]

You have no proof that Kel-Tec is poorly run and/or unprofitable.

Unless you are privy to KT's balance sheet and income statement (and you're not because it's privately held), you have no idea if KT is "run poorly" from a business standpoint.

Businesses can be evaluated from the outside very easily if you know what to look for, invest in a business degree and spend a few years with a consulting firm, then you can speak with some authority on this topic. I've done my research.

Like Bill Ruger? Like Ron Coburn of Savage? That comment is simply nonsensical.

To someone without any experience perhaps, go get some experience in the industry and operating a business and come back if you want to be taken seriously.

Microsoft did it for years. They still do it. So does Apple. It certainly has not hurt their financials.

Ignoratio elenchi

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[Sam1911]

Guess we've answered our own questions to our own satisfaction then. Suppose then we're done.