The Marlin 39 Club
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johnmcl
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dfariswheel,
I am always impressed with your depth of knowledge. Can you recommend any Marin 39A reference books?
Inquiring minds want to know.....
I am always impressed with your depth of knowledge. Can you recommend any Marin 39A reference books?
Inquiring minds want to know.....
dfariswheel
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There's not a lot out there.
One of the best sources of info was an American Rifleman magazine article published back in the 1980's.
I can't remember the year or month but it celebrated Marlin's 1,000,000 ?? Model 39.
The Blue Book of Gun Values has some good info.
For books:
http://www.amazon.com/Marlin-Firear...=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283467849&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Marlin-Firear...=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283468032&sr=1-1
One of the best sources of info was an American Rifleman magazine article published back in the 1980's.
I can't remember the year or month but it celebrated Marlin's 1,000,000 ?? Model 39.
The Blue Book of Gun Values has some good info.
For books:
http://www.amazon.com/Marlin-Firear...=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283467849&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Marlin-Firear...=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283468032&sr=1-1
Well guy's, I've committed myself. I'm going to re-restore my 1947 39A. It was bought from a neighbor in 1966 in rough condition. It had sat in the corner of this old gentleman's garage as a varmint rifle all it's life. It has a side mounted Weaver G4 that's clear and has held zero forever. My Dad refinished the stock, removed the rust, and cold blued it. He gave it to me on my 9th birthday. I've been shooting this rifle for the past 44 years without a hitch, and it's dead accurate.
Dad's bluing didn't turn out well, and I've tried the B/C products and it didn't get any better, kind of brownish-purple.
The rifle is way past any collector value. You can barely read the roll marks, and it is pitted badly. I did a stock refinish about 20 years ago, it could have been better.
So, here's my plan...
In honor of my Dad, a home job is warranted.
I'll bring the metal to white, polish, and use Oxpho Blue to try and get a good home cold bluing. It seems to be the best out there.
Next is the wood. I'll bring that down bare and use some sort of linseed oil, Lin-Speed if I can find it. I hope for a presentable home restored rifle.
I'll post pics as I go. Wish me luck.
Dad's bluing didn't turn out well, and I've tried the B/C products and it didn't get any better, kind of brownish-purple.
The rifle is way past any collector value. You can barely read the roll marks, and it is pitted badly. I did a stock refinish about 20 years ago, it could have been better.
So, here's my plan...
In honor of my Dad, a home job is warranted.
I'll bring the metal to white, polish, and use Oxpho Blue to try and get a good home cold bluing. It seems to be the best out there.
Next is the wood. I'll bring that down bare and use some sort of linseed oil, Lin-Speed if I can find it. I hope for a presentable home restored rifle.
I'll post pics as I go. Wish me luck.
AStone
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I agree with John: Dfariswheel, you are a true asset to this club and THR in general. Thanks for all you contribute.
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Nem the road weary
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Just off the bus. Ten hours. (I need two showers.) Just got home after 18 days on the road. Have hardly been in here at all during that time. Will try to catch up this weekend.
Nem the road weary
Hello all another new member here just found the 39A club thread after a little research this weekend.
My story:
I have a 1946 “C” 39A that I inherited from my much older brother who has since passed away, it was his when he was a kid. I am not a gun collector although I do own and shoot quite a few rifles and pistols; I guess I am a Gun Enthusiast. Anyway I have had this rifle for 10+ years but never really shot it much due to the fact that it would not feed correctly seems like every other round just hung it up. My son is now 16 I bought him his first pistol “Ruger Single Six” when he was 8 and we shoot pistols and rifles about every other month or so.
This last weekend I decided to take the 39A out of the closet and see if I could discover what the problem might be; so I opened it up and found some schematics on the web to compare the workings. Well it looks like it’s missing the Cartridge Cutoff Spacer and maybe this is why it refuses to feed properly also the Cartridge Cutoff itself looks quit worn also the front site hood is missing but as far as I can tell everything else is there.
Now this was a kid’s toy and my brother had three sons of his own so the rifle looks like it was taken down several times and without the proper tools; many of the screws are really buggered up but the finish on the rifle still looks decent. I have kept it in a rifle case since I’ve had it and taken it out for a cleaning now and then.
I know I should replace the missing Cartridge Cutoff Spacer but should I also replace the buggered up screws, worn Cartridge Cutoff and missing front site hood? If so where is the best place to find these replacement parts?
Thanks for your help...
Mark
My story:
I have a 1946 “C” 39A that I inherited from my much older brother who has since passed away, it was his when he was a kid. I am not a gun collector although I do own and shoot quite a few rifles and pistols; I guess I am a Gun Enthusiast. Anyway I have had this rifle for 10+ years but never really shot it much due to the fact that it would not feed correctly seems like every other round just hung it up. My son is now 16 I bought him his first pistol “Ruger Single Six” when he was 8 and we shoot pistols and rifles about every other month or so.
This last weekend I decided to take the 39A out of the closet and see if I could discover what the problem might be; so I opened it up and found some schematics on the web to compare the workings. Well it looks like it’s missing the Cartridge Cutoff Spacer and maybe this is why it refuses to feed properly also the Cartridge Cutoff itself looks quit worn also the front site hood is missing but as far as I can tell everything else is there.
Now this was a kid’s toy and my brother had three sons of his own so the rifle looks like it was taken down several times and without the proper tools; many of the screws are really buggered up but the finish on the rifle still looks decent. I have kept it in a rifle case since I’ve had it and taken it out for a cleaning now and then.
I know I should replace the missing Cartridge Cutoff Spacer but should I also replace the buggered up screws, worn Cartridge Cutoff and missing front site hood? If so where is the best place to find these replacement parts?
Thanks for your help...
Mark
dfariswheel
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Here's some good sources for Marlin 39 parts.
Here's a good exploded view to help you positively ID the parts and names:
http://www.stevespages.com/ipb-marlin-39a.html
The 1946 version Marlin 39-A didn't have a cutoff spacer. That was a later addition. Your version has a spring cut off with a thicker end. This type of cut off is simply attached in it's slot in the receiver with the screw. If you can't find an original type of cut off, you may have to use a newer part and a spacer.
On these early post-war rifles virtually every part, including the flat springs are milled steel.
At the rear of the receiver, under the stock is a mainspring tension plate. This positions the mainspring and hammer plunger, and is adjustable for tension. By moving the tension plate forward or back in the grooves cut in the tangs, you can adjust the hammer tension.
The earlier front sight hood is not as wide as the later hoods.
Here's parts:
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Models.aspx?catid=310
http://www.jackfirstgun.com/
(Gotta call but they're GOOD)
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=0/sid=283/schematicsdetail/39A
(New parts for the current rifles. Some will fit older rifles).
http://www.gun-parts.com/index.html/
http://www.poppertsgunparts.com/index.htm
http://www.poppertsgunparts.com/index.htm
(Click on Marlin and WAIT).
Here's a good exploded view to help you positively ID the parts and names:
http://www.stevespages.com/ipb-marlin-39a.html
The 1946 version Marlin 39-A didn't have a cutoff spacer. That was a later addition. Your version has a spring cut off with a thicker end. This type of cut off is simply attached in it's slot in the receiver with the screw. If you can't find an original type of cut off, you may have to use a newer part and a spacer.
On these early post-war rifles virtually every part, including the flat springs are milled steel.
At the rear of the receiver, under the stock is a mainspring tension plate. This positions the mainspring and hammer plunger, and is adjustable for tension. By moving the tension plate forward or back in the grooves cut in the tangs, you can adjust the hammer tension.
The earlier front sight hood is not as wide as the later hoods.
Here's parts:
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Models.aspx?catid=310
http://www.jackfirstgun.com/
(Gotta call but they're GOOD)
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=0/sid=283/schematicsdetail/39A
(New parts for the current rifles. Some will fit older rifles).
http://www.gun-parts.com/index.html/
http://www.poppertsgunparts.com/index.htm
http://www.poppertsgunparts.com/index.htm
(Click on Marlin and WAIT).
@dfariswheel Thanks for the info, this old 39-A probably has some intriguing stories behind it. I'll spend a few bucks on it and see if I can't get her working again. I read a thread on another forum where a fellow restored one Stock refinish and all but I'd be happy just to get this one shooting like it should and get some of the old burred screws replaced.
Flintknapper
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I have a "Mountie" made in 1967 that is in excellent shape, love that rifle.
Flint.
Flint.
Up until a week ago I had no idea there were different models of the 39-A or much about the 1946 model I have. Heck it's been in the closet for the past 10-12 years inside a soft rifle case. I did a little tweaking on the cartridge cutoff and now it seems to be working fine, my son and I may take it out to the range on Sunday this week.
HowardB
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I got my 39A back from the gunsmith yesterday, he replaced 1 missing screw and 1 broken screw. Now it seems to operate as new, but I haven't fired it yet. He told me it's a 1964 model, not a 1962.
Okay.....story: My dad was working at the PX on Ft. Richardson in Anchorage, AK in 1964 as a civilian employee. During the Alaskan earthquake the warehouse collapsed. In the following days, he helped remove what was left. He bought 4 weapons that had damage (from melting snow) to the outer boxes. The 39A I have came from there, my dad paid $7.00 for it. He also bought a Remington 870 for $12.00 (I have it also) and 2 1963 Smith and Wesson .357 combat magnums in the oak cases for $40.00 each. The pistols he gave to his older brother and a good friend of his (dang).
Okay.....story: My dad was working at the PX on Ft. Richardson in Anchorage, AK in 1964 as a civilian employee. During the Alaskan earthquake the warehouse collapsed. In the following days, he helped remove what was left. He bought 4 weapons that had damage (from melting snow) to the outer boxes. The 39A I have came from there, my dad paid $7.00 for it. He also bought a Remington 870 for $12.00 (I have it also) and 2 1963 Smith and Wesson .357 combat magnums in the oak cases for $40.00 each. The pistols he gave to his older brother and a good friend of his (dang).
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A new Mountie
Just picked up a super condition Golden 39 Mountie 'U' prefix circa 1960-1961.
Goes with the 1982 39M
Just picked up a super condition Golden 39 Mountie 'U' prefix circa 1960-1961.
Goes with the 1982 39M
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flusher
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flusher
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None of them have the earlier round sight hood.
johnmcl
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Clermont,
What a box! You could add $400 to that price to get one today new.
What a box! You could add $400 to that price to get one today new.
eslocklier
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Agreed,
I'm new to this forum and this particular rifle, but the pictures throughout this thread make me want to start researching right away. I'm excited!
I'm new to this forum and this particular rifle, but the pictures throughout this thread make me want to start researching right away. I'm excited!
Rollis R. Karvellis
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You guy's really iritate me, after looking throw the last couple of pages, I've decided to go to the shop that my current pouduction 39a is at, and bring it home. Not sure what I'll do with it yet, but I'm sure it will be a long, drawn out drama, of opraactic proportion's.
A Pair of Aces
OK here is the 1946 39-A that has been in my family for 66 years and the Ruger Single Six I purchased in 1982 which I gave to my son when he turned 8 in 2002, I replaced the cartridge cutoff on the 39-A and got her working and also ordered and replaced several of the old screws.
OK here is the 1946 39-A that has been in my family for 66 years and the Ruger Single Six I purchased in 1982 which I gave to my son when he turned 8 in 2002, I replaced the cartridge cutoff on the 39-A and got her working and also ordered and replaced several of the old screws.
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my first marlin
hello to everyone on thr. I have just finished reading all the pages on this site and thought i would tell you about my first marlin.I called in to a gunshop that sells mainly shotguns to look at an old lever action that they were selling for someones estate.They thought it was a model 1895 of about 1940so i gave them what they were asking £140.00.After taking it to the range to shoot i had some fte I then took it to another gunshop who thought it was made in the 1920s.I went on the web and found wisners and ordered a new ejector which a friend sent over to the uk for me.I also found out that my rifle was infact an 1891 sideloader and was only made for that year.I do not think it is 100% original but it shoots very well and no more fte.I then started to look on guntrader for a 39a saw a photo of a nice looking mountie. the seller did not know what year it was but i still bought it over the phone and had it sent to my nearest gun shop.It was made in 1959 and it has the most perfect action that you could wish for.It me cost £145.00 to buy and it also had an old optricon scope fitted that suits the rifle. I also have a 357 1894 with williams peep sights that also shoots well.
hello to everyone on thr. I have just finished reading all the pages on this site and thought i would tell you about my first marlin.I called in to a gunshop that sells mainly shotguns to look at an old lever action that they were selling for someones estate.They thought it was a model 1895 of about 1940so i gave them what they were asking £140.00.After taking it to the range to shoot i had some fte I then took it to another gunshop who thought it was made in the 1920s.I went on the web and found wisners and ordered a new ejector which a friend sent over to the uk for me.I also found out that my rifle was infact an 1891 sideloader and was only made for that year.I do not think it is 100% original but it shoots very well and no more fte.I then started to look on guntrader for a 39a saw a photo of a nice looking mountie. the seller did not know what year it was but i still bought it over the phone and had it sent to my nearest gun shop.It was made in 1959 and it has the most perfect action that you could wish for.It me cost £145.00 to buy and it also had an old optricon scope fitted that suits the rifle. I also have a 357 1894 with williams peep sights that also shoots well.
VXR;
Welcome to our particular form of insanity on this side of the pond. You seem to have had a particular run of good luck finding vintage Marlins in what would appear to be an exotic enviroment. Beware that there are members here who might wish to send you objects for you to "lay hands on" that some of your good fortune might be transferred to them. Frankly, I'd charge if I were you, but then Inland Revenue would get involved, no? Can't have that, what?
Best to you sir, and please keep posting to us of your experiences.
900F
Welcome to our particular form of insanity on this side of the pond. You seem to have had a particular run of good luck finding vintage Marlins in what would appear to be an exotic enviroment. Beware that there are members here who might wish to send you objects for you to "lay hands on" that some of your good fortune might be transferred to them. Frankly, I'd charge if I were you, but then Inland Revenue would get involved, no? Can't have that, what?
Best to you sir, and please keep posting to us of your experiences.
900F
teetertotter
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Anyone tested 1235-1255 fps ammo getting less than 1.50 inches at 100m via their 39a that would be 4 or less years old? Want to see if there is an ammo I have not tried in this muzzle fps range. CCI Blazer continues to have the most accuracy at 100m in this fps range. Dime size at 40m, nickle at 60m, qtr size at 77m. Any input is appreciated. Thank you
Cookster
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Clermont,
I recently picked up the same 39A Golden with a 22279xx S/N. What a great shooter (after replacing the cartridge guide spring and cartridge stop)!
Thanks for sharing.
Rob
I recently picked up the same 39A Golden with a 22279xx S/N. What a great shooter (after replacing the cartridge guide spring and cartridge stop)!
Thanks for sharing.
Rob
flusher
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