BemidjiDweller
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I had the same thought today after the range. I shot my Ruger 2 3/4" Security Six spot on today and afterwords shot my P95 like I was holding it sideways.
To wheel gun only or not to wheel gun only
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I carry a issued pistol at work and a personally owned revolver the rest of the time. My bi-annual qualification scores are about the same with each platform. However, my grouping is always better with the revolver.
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Over the past year, I have found more semis leaking into my collection. But, this is mostly because, as it has been pointed out, that revolvers these days usually need work right out of the box to upgrade them to fighting guns. Revolvers seem to have suffered from being something that automatic aren't, and the companies simply playing it up instead of continuing to update and improve on the design. The only auto that I carry with any regularity is a Springfield Armory 1911M1a spec that just happens to fit in the door of my car better that my full size six gun.
Have I ever felt out outgunned? Honestly, never. I have been in a situation where my ability to skin leather with a sixgun faster than an automatic saved me having to use it. I know that as soon as I pull that hammer back, when my thumb hits the grip my sights are on target. I shoot one handed, all the time. I can shoot southpaw at least as good as an average joe. I have found that a knife and a serious streak will take you a long way in a fight.
I have been known to carry upwards of three pistols and spare ammo on me, just in case, in places where it has been legal to do so. Undergunned or not, no sense taking chances.
Have I ever felt out outgunned? Honestly, never. I have been in a situation where my ability to skin leather with a sixgun faster than an automatic saved me having to use it. I know that as soon as I pull that hammer back, when my thumb hits the grip my sights are on target. I shoot one handed, all the time. I can shoot southpaw at least as good as an average joe. I have found that a knife and a serious streak will take you a long way in a fight.
I have been known to carry upwards of three pistols and spare ammo on me, just in case, in places where it has been legal to do so. Undergunned or not, no sense taking chances.
Archaic Weapon
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As to the 1911 vs Glock, I find that striker fired is creaky on the trigger and the 1911 has a technique called "Cocked and Locked" that works wonders for getting into action. I own an example of both.
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I've got two semi-autos one of which is my wife's play gun; the rest are revolvers.
My EDC is a wheelie of course. Life's too short to do all that tap rack crap.
My EDC is a wheelie of course. Life's too short to do all that tap rack crap.
The gun I shot best was S&W Model 12, but it had to go because it held only six cartridges which I did not feel comfortable with. I do not know Olathe KS and you might be ok with just six rounds. The key point to realize is that all you have is what your cylinder will hold thinking otherwise is foolish. When I have my Glock I have only 16 cartridges that is hell of a lot better then 6.
The advantage of "mindless operation" under stress goes to the Glock. In the end that is ALL that matters.Oh lets just negate the fact that its bigger in every conceivable way...
Heck their most popular 9mm is bigger than my Commander.. Sure it weighs less, but thats about the only advantage.
Archaic Weapon
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Sounds like a training issue to me. Different training, different schools of tbought, some of us will just never "modernize" properly.
Certaindeaf
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How on earth do you tie your shoes in the morning.. etc. etc.?
Dnaltrop
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Focus on what you love, carry what you practice with, but it's never a bad idea to dabble in other varieties.
Even when you yourself are practiced, a laser-tight focus on wheelguns alone would deprive you of some teaching tools when introducing someone else to the shooting sports.
There are a LOT of folks out there who need an introduction these days to get over the shyness.
Even when you yourself are practiced, a laser-tight focus on wheelguns alone would deprive you of some teaching tools when introducing someone else to the shooting sports.
There are a LOT of folks out there who need an introduction these days to get over the shyness.
Godsgunman
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Ah, very wise there DNaltrop. I have a wife and kids, the kids are to young right now, but I will be teaching them all the ins and outs when they come of age so even though I may be a revolver guy at heart it would still be wise to let my wife and family have the option. Arguably alot of people start off on revolvers, I did, hence my attraction to them but they are not for everyone. Just like semis aren't for everyone. Wise words my friend 
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After following this thread I decided to pull out a wheel gun and carry it for a while.
I chose a S&W 442 and threw in a couple speed strips for good measure.
My typical EDC is a 380 Kel Tec or a G26 or G19.
To tell you the truth if I have an armed encounter with just one bad guy I feel good about any of them. I have to put the J frame and the Kel Tec about even given the slightly higher capacity but poorer performing cartridge of the 380. I don't believe either compares to what I can bring with a 10 + 15 rd mag or 2 15 rd mags out of the Glocks.
I do not consider myself to be a spray and pray shooter but I do hope that if I am ever in a knock down drag out shooting that I have ammo left over.
So for me, in social situations I far prefer an auto with capacity that I can shoot well.
I still like a revolver like a Black Hawk M13,19/65,66, 686, M29 as well as others when out in the country but around to many of my own kind I'll take an auto.
I chose a S&W 442 and threw in a couple speed strips for good measure.
My typical EDC is a 380 Kel Tec or a G26 or G19.
To tell you the truth if I have an armed encounter with just one bad guy I feel good about any of them. I have to put the J frame and the Kel Tec about even given the slightly higher capacity but poorer performing cartridge of the 380. I don't believe either compares to what I can bring with a 10 + 15 rd mag or 2 15 rd mags out of the Glocks.
I do not consider myself to be a spray and pray shooter but I do hope that if I am ever in a knock down drag out shooting that I have ammo left over.
So for me, in social situations I far prefer an auto with capacity that I can shoot well.
I still like a revolver like a Black Hawk M13,19/65,66, 686, M29 as well as others when out in the country but around to many of my own kind I'll take an auto.
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what is going here guys? theres no debate... CARRY WHAT YOUR MOST COMFORTABLE WITH! whether it be a 1911 or a s&w 629. the capacity factor to me is some what unrealistic. unless your john mclain from die hard, im sure youd be better off with 6+ 1 speedloader (12) that you can accurately shoot vs a semi with 17 rounds you can inaccurately shoot. come on guys.. pick what your comfortable with in a life or death situation. end of story.
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Certaindeaf for the win!
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While in uniform, twice I had to take criminals at gunpoint, thankfully not having to fire.
Once with an auto (Sig P220) and once with a revolver (S&W M25-5 .45 Colt).
The criminal who saw the muzzle of my Sig taunted me to shoot him then turned and fled. The criminal who saw the muzzle, and big, blue cylinder full of silvertip HPs of my wheelgun wet himself (really) and followed my instructions to the letter.
Just something else to add to the debate.
Once with an auto (Sig P220) and once with a revolver (S&W M25-5 .45 Colt).
The criminal who saw the muzzle of my Sig taunted me to shoot him then turned and fled. The criminal who saw the muzzle, and big, blue cylinder full of silvertip HPs of my wheelgun wet himself (really) and followed my instructions to the letter.
Just something else to add to the debate.
Seriously, when was the last time you've seen in the news where a civilian needed 15 rounds to defend himself? Most reports of shots fired are just a couple to a few.
Seems the only ones firing 40 times are cops.
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I'm a revolver guy. I've owned several semi-auto's but always drifted back to a revolver. Now the only semi-auto's I own are a couple of Ruger 22's.
I carry a revolver because I like a revolver.
I carry a revolver because I like a revolver.
Ayoob has written about three cases that I know of... All instances had one common denominator.. They were store owners being robbed.
http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum...chmond-jewelry-store-shootout-blast-past.html
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?45333-Urban-Gunfighter-(-The-Lance-Thomas-story)
http://www.afn.org/~guns/ayoob.html
627PCFan
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Jesus, the 1st article sets the gold standard for strapping up.
Not exactly the kind of circumstances 99.4% of us will encounter.
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If you are arming yourself under the premise that an aggressor will piss himself at the sight of your gun or that there will only be one of them then perhaps your statement is correct.
My premise is clear, I want ammo left over. I also want to address what could be more than one attacker with the minimum of down time given to reloading my gun.
A simple test would be to time multiple shots on multiple plates using a 15 shot auto and a 5-6 shot revolver. we know which will be faster after the first 5-6 rounds, incorporate some movement and stress and there will be missed or poor shots. If one cylinder is all you may ever need then the discussion need go no further, there are definitely a couple trains of thought on the matter with the truth being that most of us will never need a single round for defense.
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So there are no missed or poorly placed shots in a gun fight? Dream on.
My point is and I believe it could be backed up by most shooters is simple.
Who gets the most hits on target in the least amount of time when shooting more than 5-6 rounds. If you are convinced that need will never happen than there is no point in the discussion if you do then there must be rational acceptance of the fact that minimizing reloading time and fine motor functions will increase ones survivability.
If you simply can't shoot anything but a revolver we understand.
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