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Walt- "the lack of data is not data". Like it.
BSA1 said:WAIT A MINUTE! Are you or are you not claiming the slide capture feature of the FS/M9 works as intended
Links to independent verifiable sources that document the current problems the Army is experiencing with Beretta M-9 and the cause of the problems will be enough of a start.
FL-NC said:Walt, that was and is my point. I guess I didn't make it sufficiently clear, that the bonus of not being injured by a handgun that breaks doesn't make the handgun not broken.
The Mk23 .45 was the first pistol I have ever bought. I bought that when I didn't know anything about handguns. It was awful. Very large (because of huge trigger guard it would not fit into Desert Eagle holster). The barrel had stupid "plumbing washer" which they claimed made the gun more accurate. They should have issued small submachine gun to lads instead of that giantificus. If I recall the price per pistol to the government was around $1100. If you ever wonder why our country is broke. Well, stuff like this is why we are where we are.Walt- I was previously issued MK23 (HK) and the M11 (Sig 228) and I had the opportunity to attend the HK armorer course, where I became much more educated on the MK23 and USP. While I prefer a striker fired pistol, and believe a striker fired pistol to be the best choice for the Army as a whole (not just for me, and not just a Glock)- I found the workmanship and reliability of those 2 pistols to be outstanding. Even though they aren't my favorites.
PabloJ said:The Mk23 .45 was the first pistol I have ever bought. I bought that when I didn't know anything about handguns. It was awful...
PabloJ said:The barrel had stupid "plumbing washer" which they claimed made the gun more accurate.
BSA- a google search showed a 18 page government accountability office file 18 pages long addressing the issue, which should be a fun read. There is also an article from Army Times where Gabe de Plano (who I met a few years ago (2010 ish) at Bragg- a great guy BTW) from Beretta expressed his company's frustration that the Army didn't adequately communicate with the company on these issues.