It's something I'd expect to hear from a blue haired crank at a city council meeting. Splatterhouse?!
It sounds like something an anti-gun person would say about the gun industry.
Hypocrisy is NOT what we want to fight the antis with.
It's something I'd expect to hear from a blue haired crank at a city council meeting. Splatterhouse?!
You guys are letting a guy with 27 post ruffle your feathers like this?
Those that dismiss some of the possible causes, e.g., video games, do so because they themselves do not believe it leads to the tragic events.
The good news is that the NRA didn't step up and agree to any restrictions.
He said that we have a culture that seems infatuated with violence.
No, we dismiss it because there's no evidence to support the claims in spite of 20+ years of research. And we dismiss it because many of us grew up playing these games. They don't make you into a killer anymore than reading a crme novel.
Cosmoline said:I want to inflict a boot to the backside of whatever hack wrote this drivel:
There exists in this country, sadly, a callous, corrupt and corrupting shadow industry that sells and stows violence against its own people, through vicious, violent video games with names like “Bulletstorm,” “Grand Theft Auto,” “Mortal Kombat,” and “Splatterhouse.
It's something I'd expect to hear from a blue haired crank at a city council meeting. Splatterhouse?! The arcade game from 1988?! GTA? A lot of today's gun owners played Mortal Kombat. We grew up with these games. This is just sad, and makes me wonder if the NRA board is simply full of bitter and foolish old men.
No, we dismiss it because there's no evidence to support the claims in spite of 20+ years of research. And we dismiss it because many of us grew up playing these games. They don't make you into a killer anymore than reading a crme novel.
Cosmoline, please read up on LTC Grossman's books if you're so inclined. I don't know if the NRA's talking points are the most effective or not. However, they are not pulling anything out of thin air.No, we dismiss it because there's no evidence to support the claims in spite of 20+ years of research. And we dismiss it because many of us grew up playing these games. They don't make you into a killer anymore than reading a crme novel.
Yes that is good. But they could have done that by keeping their lips together. What they needed to do was respond to the lies with logic, and to offer something workable that doesn't infringe on rights and will also give our friends on the hill something to use. That was imperative. But they failed. Instead of helping to guide us in this time of trouble, they've thrown a brand new hornet's nest into the mix that actually divides gun owners against each other. Bad idea!
Not to mention the fact that, as I mentioned, this ain't no "shadow industry." These are huge companies with hundreds of millions of gamers worldwide who have been quite neutral and even somewhat RKBA friendly in the battle up to this point. We don't need any new enemies.
And news flash--gamers love guns! They're natural allies. And they're younger than your average hunter. Many are libertarian-minded. To slam that door shut was particularly stupid.
He said quite a bit more than that I'm afraid. He dredged up one of the sillier parts of the culture war using 20 year old talking points. A part that only a handful of ill-informed people even buy into anymore. He made us look old, foolish and befuddled.
And you better believe that the MSM is already ignoring 90% of what he said and focusing on the protestors and that soundbite about GTA and Mortal Kombat.
I have one thing to say about whoever came up with this idea--FINISH HIM!
Cosmoline, please read up on LTC Grossman's books if you're so inclined.
There is something else going on here.
I suggested the idea of a program something along the lines Troops to Teachers but for retiring police officers to one of my brothers whom is a LEO. The program, in my fantasy, would have retired police officers teachings some class or working in some normal school capacity. These people would, however, be armed. My brother told me the idea had been put forward a few times before. So my "novel" idea wasn't really original at all, it seems. It just goes to show we can learn a lot by what people have already suggested.put armed volunteers in the schools, specifically armed grandparents, and then let them try to hurt our grandchildren....
Derek Zeanah said:He's also stepped up and argued that congress pass a bill allowing armed defenders before school resumes in January. If someone goes nuts in mid-january in another school the NRA will be saying "see? Why wasn't there armed security or a cop on-site? PASS IT NOW." Which will help shape the next debate.
Cosmoline said:Starting in the 70's the states shut down the asylums and reformed their laws to make it much more difficult to commit people who were insane. Treatment in the community has been the mantra for that. But unfortunately when funding for the huge asylums was cut, it was never replaced with funding for treatment. So we have a very thin patchwork net of services. This is unfortunate for those with typical depression and such. For the small number who are one missed pill away from mass murder, the results are worse than unfortunate.