alfon99
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And there was a beavis and butthead episode where they brought down a jumbo jet while shooting skeet. xD. I guess that's where anti's get their facts.
What firearm ignorance have you encountered lately?
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Hometeached1
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Wow Sam, that would be weird.
Down here we have "cool rednecks" they all drive lifted Chevys with Crome "off road" wheels, wear at least a mossy oak ball cap, faded blue jeans, some hunting themed t shirt, boots and chew tobacco. Anyway went to GM to see about getting a part time job in the firearms section and two of these guys and there girlfriends are over looking at the rifles and one of the guys has his shirt pulled behind his IWB FNP 45 and I see he has the hammer back, but the safety off. So thinking that maybe the safety got brushed off, I say "nice FNP, just want to let you know that your safety's off". He replies "this is my safety" flexing his index finger. :banghead: I finished my application and left as fast as I could.
Down here we have "cool rednecks" they all drive lifted Chevys with Crome "off road" wheels, wear at least a mossy oak ball cap, faded blue jeans, some hunting themed t shirt, boots and chew tobacco. Anyway went to GM to see about getting a part time job in the firearms section and two of these guys and there girlfriends are over looking at the rifles and one of the guys has his shirt pulled behind his IWB FNP 45 and I see he has the hammer back, but the safety off. So thinking that maybe the safety got brushed off, I say "nice FNP, just want to let you know that your safety's off". He replies "this is my safety" flexing his index finger. :banghead: I finished my application and left as fast as I could.
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"He's looking at an Uberti or some such SAA clone, and as we get there he takes a big step back and -- if I'm lyin', I'm dyin' -- starts TWIRLING it!
You ever see something so flipping unexpected you simply can't process it for a minute. That was me, and the counter clerk too, I think."
Was he any good? I mean, you said the guy did look like a performer...
I, too would be surprised if some dude walked into a gun store and starts doing the Sammy Davis Jr. non-chalant gun-twirling bad-assery thing
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You ever see something so flipping unexpected you simply can't process it for a minute. That was me, and the counter clerk too, I think."
Was he any good? I mean, you said the guy did look like a performer...
I, too would be surprised if some dude walked into a gun store and starts doing the Sammy Davis Jr. non-chalant gun-twirling bad-assery thing TCB
Sam1911
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I can only recall that he got it around at least once, and didn't actually drop it. So, more success than I'd have bet on.
But if he'd pulled out a rope and lasso'd the counter guy, I think it would have been less of a shock.
But if he'd pulled out a rope and lasso'd the counter guy, I think it would have been less of a shock.
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sorry for no decent input on this post, but i hafta say this is one of the best threads ive been in on here for a while, im thoroughly enjoying myself.
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Sam1911 said:
Priceless! Cabelas in Hamburg is definitely a gem, especially on weekends!
cambeul41
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But did he twirl it like a PENCIL?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/04/0...school-for-allegedly-making-gun-motions-with/
They are all sheep, we had 3 burglaries in my development yesterday, One was a push in or home invasion, the guy was home, "cops are keeping a lid on it" Choppers were up cars, dogs, the whole 9 yards, "never figured why it's 9 yards and not 10".
Now all the do do's that I spoke in front of with the Community relations Sargent 5 yrs ago, all of a sudden want guards and guns.
It's always the same thing, I got a dozen calls from people who's security lights don't work and never even learned how to use the alarm system, that came for free with the house.
I offer people free instruction if they want to learn, and are capable, and of age. Just the basics and help them choose a gun that's right for them. I do it for free, like everything else I do for neighbors. But it's simply amazing that exactly what I told them would happen , just did. And they are over reacting now, as I said they would.
The cops told these people ,"350 homes", "we don't have the man power to cruise all of these hundreds of developments, you should have a weapon in the house that you have received some training in using, as we may not get there in time.
How much clearer can you be, A dog, an alarm that's on, and a gun. That's reasonable isn't it.
By the way these are the same people who wouldn't pay for a better gate system with working camera's, or a guard even at night, when their cars were being broken into, "22" in one night. Like 5-10 bucks a month makes a difference on 250-750 thousand dollar houses.
Now they want everything, but my bet is by the next meeting it will all be forgotten, until someone actually get's killed.
I love when they say, we have children or grandchildren, I always respond with, don't give them the gun, can't you figure out how to keep your kid out of your biometric safe.
Now all the do do's that I spoke in front of with the Community relations Sargent 5 yrs ago, all of a sudden want guards and guns.
It's always the same thing, I got a dozen calls from people who's security lights don't work and never even learned how to use the alarm system, that came for free with the house.
I offer people free instruction if they want to learn, and are capable, and of age. Just the basics and help them choose a gun that's right for them. I do it for free, like everything else I do for neighbors. But it's simply amazing that exactly what I told them would happen , just did. And they are over reacting now, as I said they would.
The cops told these people ,"350 homes", "we don't have the man power to cruise all of these hundreds of developments, you should have a weapon in the house that you have received some training in using, as we may not get there in time.
How much clearer can you be, A dog, an alarm that's on, and a gun. That's reasonable isn't it.
By the way these are the same people who wouldn't pay for a better gate system with working camera's, or a guard even at night, when their cars were being broken into, "22" in one night. Like 5-10 bucks a month makes a difference on 250-750 thousand dollar houses.
Now they want everything, but my bet is by the next meeting it will all be forgotten, until someone actually get's killed.
I love when they say, we have children or grandchildren, I always respond with, don't give them the gun, can't you figure out how to keep your kid out of your biometric safe.
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Hometeached1
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Gym, "The whole nine yards" comes from troops in WW1 talking about the Vickers MGs belts that were 9 yards long. So the phrase was "give them the whole nine yards". At least this is what I've been told by some people that are into WW1 history.
Somewhere in the Constitution it reads that something authorized for a resident in one state has to be recognized by other states. I'm sure there are court cases but Drivers licenses were mentioned as an example when I read this. Concealed handgun license and firearms transport would be an interesting subject for somebody that would be willing to be a test case.
World War 2 Fighter aircraft had a nine yard long belt of wing mounted machine gun ammo. At least that's what I've always heard. A nine yard belt of .30 caliber ammo would seem to be prohibitively large to deal with when changing loadings for even a crew served weapon. Not telling...just mentioning what I'd heard.
dogtown tom
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Origin of "The Whole Nine Yards":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_whole_nine_yards
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_whole_nine_yards
bottom shelf
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This is interesting. If we consider the "whole nine yards" to be a volumetric measurement of powder, 9 cubic yards can load at least 15.7 million rounds of 9mm ammo. That's at a load of 4.8 grains, and a cubic centimeter having a mass of 11 grains.
The only believable theory I've ever heard about the origin of the phrase came from my father. He said that in the early part of the 20th century, when most houses in his area were heated by a coal furnace, the basement had a coal room with a chute to a window just about ground level for coal delivery.
The coal was delivered by trucks that had 3 compartments, each holding 3 cubic yards of coal. A consumer could purchase 3, 6 or the whole nine yards.
The only believable theory I've ever heard about the origin of the phrase came from my father. He said that in the early part of the 20th century, when most houses in his area were heated by a coal furnace, the basement had a coal room with a chute to a window just about ground level for coal delivery.
The coal was delivered by trucks that had 3 compartments, each holding 3 cubic yards of coal. A consumer could purchase 3, 6 or the whole nine yards.
Gun control is like trying to stop drunk driving by making it harder for sober drivers to get cars.
Sam1911
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I don't believe you're going to find that bit of the Constitution.
There are many things granted by one state and but not recognized by another. Licenses for professionals like Engineers, Architects, Surveyors, and other specialists are usually NOT recognized across state lines. Driver's licenses are recognized, but only as a form of "good faith" convention between the states -- there's nothing in federal law that says they HAVE to be.
So absent a specific law that requires national reciprocity, don't hold your breath for CCW licenses to be universally recognized.
Sam...Would you please interpret this for me? I am not challenging...I'm asking.
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html
Ibid: Article. IV.
Section. 1.
Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
Section. 2.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States
I've heard this is why a drivers license in one state is valid in all states.
I agree with your examples of professional licenses. I sincerely don't know. It was an armchair constitutionist question on my part.
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http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html
Ibid: Article. IV.
Section. 1.
Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
Section. 2.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States
I've heard this is why a drivers license in one state is valid in all states.
I agree with your examples of professional licenses. I sincerely don't know. It was an armchair constitutionist question on my part.
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Sam1911
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Yeah, it's a cop out answer, but if you read the Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privileges_and_Immunities_Clause), especially the part about "After the Civil War" it explains that this clause is mostly interpreted to mean that a citizen has the right to travel between the states, and may do so in order to enjoy the benefits of the laws of another state, but doesn't mean that the laws of one state are in effect in another state.
Certainly it is an area subject greatly to interpretation, but the fact that a lawyer licensed to practice in New York isn't automatically licensed to practice in Florida says a lot about how it is interpreted.
Where this is getting really getting a workout (or MAY) these days is with the question of one state recognizing another's marriage license under "alternative" unions.
Certainly it is an area subject greatly to interpretation, but the fact that a lawyer licensed to practice in New York isn't automatically licensed to practice in Florida says a lot about how it is interpreted.
Where this is getting really getting a workout (or MAY) these days is with the question of one state recognizing another's marriage license under "alternative" unions.
Off topic we go. I think the best explanation of the "whole nine yards" is that certain sailing ships had 3 main sails and each of them used 3 yards of fabric. So the whole nine yards would mean full sail. BUT. The origin of the phrase seems to be linked to Kentucky. The earliest known publication of the phrase occurs in 1956 in a book called, "Kentucky Happy Hunting Ground". And an earlier version of the phrase used six yards instead of nine (did you know people used to talk about cloud 7 instead of cloud 9?). That also appears in a Kentucky related publication, a local newspaper. It goes like this, "Just wait boys until the fix gets to a fever heat and they will tell the whole six yards." Maybe a sailboat with 2 masts instead of 3 ???
The thing is there are almost zero sails in Kentucky or anywhere in the south (away from the coasts) where the phrase was first popular according to most research. The plain fact is no one knows the origin or the meaning or maybe they do and they just aren't willing to give up the whole nine yards on the issue.
Dang where's my nearest firearm. I need to get out of the house.
The thing is there are almost zero sails in Kentucky or anywhere in the south (away from the coasts) where the phrase was first popular according to most research. The plain fact is no one knows the origin or the meaning or maybe they do and they just aren't willing to give up the whole nine yards on the issue.
Dang where's my nearest firearm. I need to get out of the house.
That is something worth exploring, leave the state and you are no longer married. It could be a very interesting experience if it were actually interpreted that way. A man could legally have 52 wives. Get them each a job and you could retire on your Social security and wives wages in Tijuana, like time sharing, 1 week a year with each.
Ok now we are going the way of an official post on THR, we have several different interpretations of the whole 9 yards, love you guys, but which is the correct one?
Ok now we are going the way of an official post on THR, we have several different interpretations of the whole 9 yards, love you guys, but which is the correct one?
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52 wives?
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I was told one time by a constitutional lawyer that after spending about fifteen minutes with me asking him questions was looking for a window to jump out of
that many laws are probably unconstitutional it's just that no one has ever challenged them. Also that many SCOTUS decisions are not definitive but actually open the door to more legal confusion.Well back to my armchair and my bowl of strained peas and carrots.
Hometeached1
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No idea who is correct. If anybody's wrong it's probably me, since I don't know it for a fact. Just saying what I heard. Kind of neat hearing all of the different versions.
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