What gun for pirates?

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Well If I was going to answer the questions seriously...:rolleyes:

I think concentrated pepper foam....we're talking BIG TANKS of 15% here plus Tasers for the crew. It ain't no fun boarding a big boat only to get blinded, choaked and tased in the ass while your back is turned.....


I knew I couldn't do it.:D
 
a cruise line that will allow passengers to bring their weapons on board.
Anyone know of any?
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Not that I'm in the sedate, geriatric phase of life that seems to be the market for cruise-goers...but do they make you walk through a metal detector to get onboard or anything?

I would treat a 'no weapons' sign on a cruise ship gangplank just as I would anywhere else with no metal detectors and/or gestapo, er police...with spite and contempt.
 
Dear Members;

We'd like to announce that Carnivour Cruise Lines is now booking the 'Soldier Of Fortune' cruise to Singapor & the scenic Andaman Islands.

All guests will be required to present, at minimum, a 3 gun battery and 5,000 rounds, or more, of ammo for the combined guns.

This is a first come first served reservation, if you want to participate please do not delay forwarding your deposit.

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A couple of Barretts and a couple of belt guns (MAG-58s etc) on the fantail, with enough pumpguns to arm the bridge crew should do nicely. The .50 with API gives enough standoff range, accuracy and punch, the belt guns offer enough real firepower and the shotguns should handle anything that gets close in under the rails. Don't see any modern cruzeship company having the balls to train crew to handle weapons and deploy them on board though.

Was once offered a job in the 70s riding shotgun on a big liveaboard being ferried to the owner in the Caribbean, would love to have taken it but I had the next step in the day-job career in place and couldn't stay away that long.

Modern pirates are not a joke, hasn't been too long ago that an entire crew of a pirated ship got found dead in the reefer.

lpl/nc
 
The real answer for honest to god pirates.

This is a really good article: http://www.imo.org/includes/blast_bindoc.asp?doc_id=941&format=PDF

I have seen systems which basically put an electric fence around the perimeter of the ship. This alerts the crew by alarm and can restart a stopped heart (or vise-versa)

If you have early detection, I have heard that the best weapon for modern day pirates is...

A fire suppression system.

These are use to flood the attacking ships. six inch hose = 5,800 gallons per minute with a range of 100 meters. This is commonly called "having a bad day"
 
You see the pictures of how close the pirates got to the ship? Now tell me that a pair of 7.62 mini guns fireing 4-6000 rounds a min. wouldn't have ruined their day!!
 
Water Hose Vs. RPG...hmmm.....I'll take the rocket. Hey...how's about the governments pursuing these pirates .... really...the best thing to fight pirates is a radio and a plan. Ship sees pirates. Ship send distress call. Govt. sends jet plane. Ship marks location. Everything not marked gets blowed up. Free light show for the kids...everyone happy.;)
 
Somalia doesn't have a government- its Blackhawk Down territory. The only way to do that would be to put an aircraft carrier in the area, and the Navy's pretty busy these days, I believe.
 
alduro said:
Water Hose Vs. RPG...hmmm.....I'll take the rocket.
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Pirate gets sprayed with pepper foam/water/etc, pirate pulls out bullhorn: "Nice pepper foam system, it'll fetch a good price in Mogadishu. We're sending a dinghy over now, and you're going to give it to us, or we sink you."

With some nice .30 cal rifles you can outrange the rocket and at least keep the RPG gunner's head down.

Govt. sends jet plane.
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Somalia sends a jet plane? If they even have any aircraft they'd send a biplane and it'd be supporting the pirates.
 
Monster propane tanks required, but....

Here you go, just install a (much) larger version of the South African flame-thrower anti-car theft devise... see the article with videoclip.

http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/africa/9812/11/flame.thrower.car/


It seems that things would be so much easier if these oversize "stagecoaches" would let their passengers carry.... we seemed to do alright when our citizens held their own.
 
Well...so much for the govt......how's about we book a Highroad cruise. Free ammo for anyone capping a pirate? That'll slow 'em down.
 
If we are within a hundred yards, I will take the hose.

I will sink your ship quick. I believe it would take a matter of seconds to flood. Plus it will move the attacking boat around a lot. And destract the crew. And most pirates do not want to lose their ship.

You might get off a shot with an RPG, but only one, and according to the report, the vast majority of pirates use knives.
 
One of the GE miniguns like those used on the A10 should do the trick.
Edited to add: At the risk of being labeled politically incorrect in my total lack of concern for said pirates' welfare, perhaps armed crew/passengers taking said pirates captive and keel hauling them might dissuade them from further anti-social activities. I don't know how many on this board have ever seen a 'bullcinch' but using said item, correctly inserted would make the keel hauling even more indelibly imprinted on the poor darlings psyches.
 
when i wen ton royal carribean

i was not allowed to pack anything beyond a razor for my face.

nonetheless i packed a 3.5" boker tactical and was always ready to clip it on. they DO howeve rmake u go through metal detectors.
 
308Win;

Ah, sir, I suggest you research the A10's cannon. Nobody in their right mind is considering it a mini-gun. The term mini-gun usually refers to the 7.62 version. The 20mm version is known as the Vulcan. The 30mm version used in the A10 is the GAU-8/A, called the Avenger. Simply because it's a rotating barrel weapon doesn't mean it's a 'mini'.

900F
 
M82A1 .50BMG should do great, get a experienced marksman, or atleast four, get a tower, or a post where they can lay prone, get radar so you can detect them coming, and take out the boat's engines before it ever comes close, or shoot up the crew, who cares, it's international waters, and it's not like the Somalian navy'll protest. ;)

Anyway, I just think it's pretty dumb that this happens.

The SBS ( British equivalent of SEALs ) is having a heck of a time dealing with their South African off shore oil rigs where anyone with a problem comes and takes the whole crew hostage usually.
 
Kurush said:
If they even have any aircraft they'd send a biplane and it'd be supporting the pirates.
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A Fairey Swordfish biplane sunk the Bismark. Actually its torpedo disabled its rudder enabling the British to sink it with fire from the big guns.
 
Heck, with the height of the ships, they could just drop some heavy weights over the side onto the pirates. "Anchors Aweigh!!!" Maybe some boiling chicken oil from the chicken cookers.
 
If you check out "Dark Waters," a book about modern piracy, the author points out that although container ships and tankers look like insurmountable walls on the water, the sterns especially are low enough that the pirates are able to use thrown rope ladders and assault ladders (a pole with rungs) to clamber aboard. It sure seems to me that keeping a watch while in the danger zone shouldn't be that hard but the ships have small crews for their size.
 
gosh, that's a tough one...

one the one hand, 7.62 machine guns are a LOT cheaper to train on.

on the other hand, .50 BMG is a lot more effective for anti-ship operations....

I'd say a .50 BMG twin-barrel machine gun mounted on the top of the conning tower, a single barrel 7.62 at bow and stern, a laser-guided computer assisted 5-inch mortar stored in a locked closet next to a mounting point, and a 25 MM bradley chaingun mounted in a fighting roost.

Small arms are stored in two locations: In the closet where the mortar is stored, and in the fighting roost, below the chaingun. Small arms consist of FN-FALS, Marine Shotguns, and 9MM handguns. (regretabably, .40 caliber is not as available worldwide)

Tourists can be over-charged to shoot the 7.62 machine guns and marine shotguns at various interesting targets, in order to recoup any losses.
 
In all seriousness...for a while, I was seeing brochures showing cruise liners shooting skeet. That means they would have some shotguns aboard. That's not a bad start.

Or has skeet on a cruise ship fallen victim to Politcal (in)Correctness?
 
Some years ago I remember reading about a pirate attack on what was thought to be a big freighter or tanker . . . IIRC it was somewhere in the SW Pacific.

When the pirates attacked, they were met with a hail of tracers, rockets, etc. the like of which they'd never seen.

Seems that in the dark of the night what they'd mistaken for a commercial vessel was really a Russian (or, at the time, Soviet?) amphibious assault ship. :uhoh:
 
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