Whats the best lie you had a gun seller tell you

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Overheard from a customer at a gun store talking to his buddy.
Pointing at a WASR-10.
"The AK is the best combat rifle ever becuase it will fire .308, .223 & SKS ammo!"
I walked the other way and let a fellow employee help them out.
 
scythefwd said:
Erik, the .380 is also known as the 9mm Kurtz, which translates to short. It does share the same naming relationship as the .22 short, but that is about it:)
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I've heard the round refferred to as a 9mm short several times, It was just that the clerk was conveying the idea that like a .22 short chambering in a bolt action rifle chambered for .22lr, the .380 round would chamber in a pistol chambered for 9mm. There might even be a chance that it would actually fire the round, but I wouldnt want to be in the vicinity. madness!
 
Big Russ said:
daskro, .223 rounds can safely be fired from a barrel marked 5.56, however 5.56 rounds aren't advised to be fired from a .223 because of differences in pressure.
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That's an answer to a question I didn't ask. Most ar-15s on the market have 5.56 chambered barrels from Green Mountain. I've yet to see an ar-15 barreled marked .223 specifically.
 
I've heard the round refferred to as a 9mm short several times, It was just that the clerk was conveying the idea that like a .22 short chambering in a bolt action rifle chambered for .22lr, the .380 round would chamber in a pistol chambered for 9mm. There might even be a chance that it would actually fire the round, but I wouldnt want to be in the vicinity. madness!
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I have a few boxes of .380 ACP from a european manufacturer that are marked 9mm Browning Short. The do not say .380 anywhere on the box, but that is what they are. Definitely not the right ammo for a 9x19.
 
Wow, page 28, huh..?

I once red-ramped a 6" Python and later saw it for sale at a gun show in Jacksonville, FL.

The guy selling it swore up and down that it was a factory job; I thanked him for the compliment and kept on walking.
 
I was at Cabelas standing behind a young couple being showed a Glock 19 by the salesman at the gun showcase. The salesman recommend against buying a 9mm offering his opinion that it was nothing more than a plinking gun. This was a week after the Virginia Tech incident where Cho killed 32 people with such a weapon.
 
I bought a real 1887 Winchester level shotgun online (not from GunsAmerica) and the seller swore that he shot it regularly and that it was a reliable gun. I made the mistake of not firing before taking it cowboy shooting, and, using my own light black powder 12ga shells, I put two rounds through it on the first stage. The gun did not blow apart thank G-d. The receiver stayed intact, but the rest of the gun disintegrated in my hands. I was left holding the receiver and all the parts, including the barrel, was on the ground.
 
It might be easier to list the number of Colt Army Specials that weren't used to kill Bonny & Clyde...

Anyway, I had a guy offer me an Ithaca SXS recently that he claimed was an excellent gun, tight, and a real accurate shooter that he shot all the time.

There were not only cobwebs in the barrels, it wobbled so much when "locked up" that I doubt you could hold anything more than a general vicinity of what you were aiming at.
 
I have a nice ww2 enfield. Nothing terribly rare but one its in GREAT shape.

A dealer at the gun show was telling me how I got took, and it was a parts gun.....etc, etc. He was a bulligerant SOB. I wasnt even trying to sell it, just looking for information. I had to damn near rip it back out of his hands. (Seriously!) Fortunatley, I knew enough to know he was full of it, and walked away.

While walking away an enfield collector saw what happened, and proceeded to look it over, tell me what all the markings, etc. were. It was great. Basically he said it's one everyone would like to have in their collection. It wasnt that the rifle or type was so rare, but the condition was/is like new and that is hard to find in a 1942 (At least one that's not already in a collectors hands).

I still have it... :D
 
Had a friend tell me a salesman tried to tell him the 7mm mag sighted dead on at 100 yards would only be 1 inch short of dead on at 1000 yards.
 
...a salesman tried to tell him the 7mm mag sighted dead on at 100 yards would only be 1 inch short of dead on at 1000 yards.
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That could be true...the scope would only have to be mounted about 10ft. above the bore. :rolleyes:
 
(some) Rock River rifles are chambered in .223 Wylde. But I think those are Wilson barrels. I've shot both 5.56 and.223 out of my RRA LAR-15 and the only problems I had were the soft points on the .223 deforming on the feed ramp. What can I say? She likes FMJs and Poly tips. ;)

I love this thread BTW! I'm going to the gun show this weekend in Belleville, Il this weekend and I usually hear some real whoppers when I go there. I'll share if I do!
 
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My parents bought me a .38 special j-frame a couple years back, and the guy at academy told them that it was a ladies gun. They never would tell me who he was, I wanted to go say hi. One time at a gun show my buddy was looking at a garand, the old man says "that's a lot of lunch money aint it son?" (we were 15 and 16) my buddy almost bought it cash on the principle. (don't disrespect kids) At bass pro last week I as the guy the price of the remington model 11 on the used rack and he grabs the sxs next to it... I say "the next one over". He grabs it and looks it over. The reason I was asking was becaue there wasn't a tag, so he checks to make sure then goes to the back to get help.
 
Worked at a sporting goods store and heard a co-worker tell a customer that
a .22 rimfire did not have a primer. The firing pin strikes the brass case and makes a spark inside the shell casing to ignite the powder:eek:

Another store many years later the BATFE inspector was checking the paperwork and we could not explain to the ding-dong that .380 and 9mm kurz
were the same. The gun in question was a Walther and was marked on the box 9mm kurz and was logged in as .380. Finally got a BATFE agent that was
knowlegeable to come down to the store and explain it to her.:banghead:
 
I was listening to a pawn shop soda jerk in Phenix City, AL, tell a guy what piece of crap his Ruger BH 200th yr 45 convertible was but that he was feeling magnanimous & would do him a favor & give him $75 for it. I listened as long as I could, then pulled 2 c-notes out of my wallet & said I'll take it, and did. P___ed the jerk off real bad; I've felt good for years... ;)
 
i heard all sorts of the usual bravo sierra. This week takes the cake as the scariest... had a guy in a gun store tell a customer that 1911's are so safe that with all the overlapping safeties the gun would only go off if you intended it to. And told the people that all you have to do to lower the hammer is hold the hammer with one hand then pull the trigger, and while the trigger was pulled shift your hand off the backstrap and let the hammer fall. I had to correct him on this. He honestly believed what he was saying and a bic ball point pen helped as a snap cap/indicator. I did buy a new 1911 from the store but not from the guy. (I have my usual, just overheard the junk)

The second is a guy in a pawnshop (yes i know better). He had a 357 rossi that looked like it had been run over in the parking lot. dirty as anything, scratches, etc. I was interested as a lil plinker. There was coding numbers but no price so the gal manning the store had to get the boss from the back to come up. They look it up in the computer and he wanted 430 for it. I almost cracked up laughing. I asked him what his best was he could take for it... he said 300 out the door. I asked about a case or if anything else came with it he said no. I asked him to drop it down 10 bucks so i could get a case somewhere. He snatched the gun up and put it in the glass, saying " I have to turn down that offer, don't waste my time I know how much people around here sell gun for. Try and find that deal somewhere else"
The stainless version is currently on sale new at a couple of stores for 300 brand new. From the get go I had a price in mind and new not to sway. I no longer expect people to have an idea of values of guns in pawnshops or at gun shows. If i am ever really weary ... cellphone has internet, I can just walk away to think about it.
 
hogshead- I believe that anything produced before 1968 did require a SN, unless it was a military arm.

I've got one or two without them at home. A mossberg 44 us(a) and a Coast to Coast .30-30 (old springfield 840)
 
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