Whats the best lie you had a gun seller tell you

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I have two both at Impact Guns in Ogden, UT:

A few years ago I decided I wanted a cheap, fun plinker. I decided on a Yugo SKS and while I didn't want to pay $129 for it (my friend had purchased his SKS years before for $70) I decided it wasn't excessive.

Salesman: "This gun is rated NRA Good, which means it is fully functional buy may not have collector value."
Me: "So if it ISN'T fully functional I can return it for a different one?"
Salesman: "Sure, but it IS fully functional that's how it got the NRA Good rating."

I purchase some ammo, take it to the range, fire one shot and it fails to cycle the next shot. Break it down and find the gas valve is corroded. Find out it's a common problem and you can either purchase a new valve or make a little o-ring. I take it back to the shop and tell them it's not fully functional after all. The same salesman refuses to take it back because they don't take returns on the mil-surp guns like the Yugo SKS and claims he never said they would. All sales are final. If it has any problem take it up with the importer (Century Arms). I called Century Arms and they said I'd have to pay for shipping both ways (which was excessive). I made the homemade o-ring and now it cycles perfectly (although you have to remove the o-ring in order to switch to the integral grenade launcher, no biggie). I was pretty pissed about the whole ordeal and I won't deal with that salesman any more, nor would I ever purchase another gun imported by Century Arms.

2nd Time. About a year ago my father-in-law had some scary near break-ins at his home (people trying to kick in the door while he was home). He decides he wants a gun for protection. My brother-in-law goes to Impact with him. He picks out a generic .38 Special revolver and grabs a box of .38 special ammo. Salesman tells him he'll blow his face of if he uses THAT box of ammo in his gun. My brother-in-law asks if using .38 special ammo in a .38 special is dangerous. The salesman says "That's NOT a .38 special. That's JUST a .38" My BIL asks "A .38 what?" Salesman: "A .38 nothing, it's JUST a .38" At this point my BIL is confused, he's familiar with guns but doesn't consider himself an expert. He buys the gun but no ammo. Brings the gun to me. I can't believe the story as I pick up the gun it's obvious it's a .38 special. What gave it away? It has .38 SPECIAL engraved in large letters right on the barrel. In plain sight. Wow, just wow.
 
IHe picks out a generic .38 Special revolver and grabs a box of .38 special ammo. Salesman tells him he'll blow his face of if he uses THAT box of ammo in his gun.
Maybe he'd picked up .380 thinking it was 38-special?...or maybe the salesman was confusing the two?
 
Nope, the salesman tried repeatedly to tell him it was not a .38 special. It is and is quite clearly marked as such.

Normally, Impact Guns is quite good and they do actually have many good sales people. There are only a few that I just won't deal with.
 
That reminds me. I was talking to a gun associate at BassPro who said he wanted to get a Glock in .40 cal. I told him I had a Glock 22 and he said "those are nice but I would prefer something in .40cal". It was than that I realized he had absolutely no idea what he was talking about when it came to guns. He then starts talking politics and how Obama would not mess with guns because it would start another civil war. I proceeded to remind of Clinton and the AWB and how that did not start another civil war. He said "Oh well that would not affect any of the guns that we sell". I proceeded to explain to him that it most certainly would because almost all the handguns they sold came with magazines that had a larger than 10 round capacity. Not to mention the 10/22s and the Mini 14 that they had on the shelf.

I think whenever you are dealing with a larger distributor you are going to wind up dealing with people that don't have a clue about anything they are trying to sell.
 
I was told a lie last night at a gun shop on the Illinois side of the St. Louis region when I went in to pick up an SKS.

Me: "I hate cleaning the cosmoline off these rifles."

Salesman: "You want to keep that on as long as you can because it was developed by the Jews to hide guns during the Holocaust."

Me: I should have left it alone as is, but I asked, "How's that?"

Salesman: "It has some chemical isotopes and ions that make it impossible to be seen by xrays and the Nazis would xray houses to find guns." I gave him a dumbfounded look and he went on to say, "I say keep one of these in your floorboard or behind a wall because the Illinois State Police will come to your house to confiscate your guns at midnight when your FOID card expires and they will xray your house to make sure you have no hidden guns."

Me: "Ok, thanks."

And here I thought it was just applied to prevent rust!
 
You want to keep that on as long as you can because it was developed by the Jews to hide guns during the Holocaust.
If that is the case they used it wrong: should have applied it to themselves instead...just sayin'. :eek:

^ FWIW, that is just about the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Definitely ranks up there with the Hollywood faked moon landing and UFO abductions.
 
Salesman: "It has some chemical isotopes and ions that make it impossible to be seen by xrays and the Nazis would xray houses to find guns." I gave him a dumbfounded look and he went on to say, "I say keep one of these in your floorboard or behind a wall because the Illinois State Police will come to your house to confiscate your guns at midnight when your FOID card expires and they will xray your house to make sure you have no hidden guns."
Sounds like the general of a 10-man tactical response tin foil birgade. i think you should win a prize for that tale.
 
Wasn't a gun store really. Old coot who lives somewhat nearby apparently found the internet and figured he could make some easy money. He called my dad up saying he had some "night vision scopes" for $65, and that if he wanted he'd bring them over. Since I live just a few minutes away, and know a LOT more about guns in general than my dad (my dad has hunted all his life but he's never really been "into" guns themselves), he calls me and asks if I'll meet them over there.

The old guy pulls up and starts his sales pitch. I immediately notice that these "night vision" scopes are, as I expected, illuminated reticle, not night vision. He then starts "Look here - these are precision instruments. This is what the army uses. They ain't made for killing animals - they made for killin people." On he goes "I know about this stuff. Back when I was in the army they was thinkin about sending me for sniper trainin.", and then when he pulls it out he is like "It's got a battery in it. Might be dead. If it is just let me know and I'll gitcha a new one. They've had these things stored away in the warehouse since 'the wars' so you never know.".

As he's talking I've already noticed the Made in China sticker, and have pulled out my iPhone and checked opinions on them online. Yep - cheap chinese junk :). Didn't want to hurt the old guys' feelings, so when my dad looked at me when the guy finished his pitch I just shook my head and he then politely declined to buy one :).
 
dude in a tiny gun shop out side of tri cities in VA mountains, says "you gotta buy up all the guns and ammo you can with this here obama gettin elected and the new world order gonna start...this here mac-11 ought to do you fine

the funny thing was as pro US and patriotic this guy was...the mac was the only american made gun in the whole store

i left

lol...this guy had clearly lost his marbles
 
Wasn't a gun store really. Old coot who lives somewhat nearby apparently found the internet and figured he could make some easy money. He called my dad up saying he had some "night vision scopes" for $65, and that if he wanted he'd bring them over. Since I live just a few minutes away, and know a LOT more about guns in general than my dad (my dad has hunted all his life but he's never really been "into" guns themselves), he calls me and asks if I'll meet them over there.

Unfortunately, we were told while we were growing up to respect old people, doctors, police officers, teachers, judges, lawyers, etc. because at one time they were much more honest and ethical which warranted the respect as a whole. These days I carry a much more tentative and reserved "respect" for people in those categories. I've learned they are just like anyone else and they will have their flaws, can be just as unethical, etc.

I don't trust any of them and take what they say with a grain of salt and ALWAYS double check everything they say. Not to be rude, but I've come to the realization that some will use their title or cultural station to take advantage of you.

This became clear to me when I would go to different gun shops back home and get all kinds of BS about how this or that gun is the best, rootin' tootin'est, deer killer, cop killing bullet/gun/insert product of sale. All followed promptly with "I'm a Vet/retired cop/super duper hunter extraordinare/pick a respected relavent position."

It is a damn shame, but it has only happened to me once when I was young. So far anyway!!!
 
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I live in Arizona. We had an ad in the local paper advertising a number of guns including military and "components". A friend went early to look and found them setting up in a three car garage of what appearead to be an empty house. There in front on a table was a dozen or so trigger assembles for an m-14 not an M1 rifle. He looked at those for a minute and then took a better look at the garage. When he spotted the third camera he walked out, after telling everyone in the place he did not appreciate a sting set up. Once in his car he called three of the local retail stores and they started calling others. Took less than 20 minutes and town police chief showed and after looking at the actions asked point blank if those trigger groups could be altered for full auto. He then told them they would show ID or be under arrest for illeagal sales. Two vans came in and loaded all after ID shown and checked. Nothing but a lie from begining to end. If it's too good to be true due to some one else's stupidity, it's probably time to take a reality check and walk away.

blindhari
 
You want to keep that on as long as you can because it was developed by the Jews to hide guns during the Holocaust.
And to think that guy gets to vote!!! That's frightening.........:banghead:
 
blindhari-so was it a ATF sting? Seems like they were selling FA and not mentioning it? So to someone who didnt know better, like me for example, I could buy it, not even know it, and be arrested?

do i understand that right?
 
Here ya' go IN>IL...your prize:

Thank you! Thank you! The list of people who were involved in this honor is long. First off, I would like to thank the Illinois State Police...
 
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I certainly thought it was a sting looking for the unwary. This was on a Saturday and a search of county assessor tax roles gave owners address that was traceble to HUD. Biggest tip was probably selector switches were there on table behind guys selling. I heard these folks were gone by 9 am, 1 car, 2 Ford vans white. Best advice I could give anyone, know what your looking at and don't touch before you ask. Me I gave up all military firearms when I got out of the Army. I was an armorer 40 years ago and could take a standard m14 from semi to auto in short order with just a few files. Trick was to do it well enough not to create runaway gun. That is why you should not be able to posess an m14 without proper permits.
I have started using breech loading single shots, an old man's folly and fun

blindhari
 
The ones you gotta watch are the ones who actually believe the stuff they say...they get this weird look in their eyes...I just say OK and walk off. "Yeah, a waffenamt on a Ivor Johnson topbreak, wild."
 
IN>IL said:
First off, I would like to thank the Illinois State Police...
Don't forget to thank Bar-Ray for the high quality X-Ray protective clothing that you have to walk around your house in. :D

Speaking of which, the guy at the aforementioned gun shop seems like the type to wear such attire (lead-lined clothing) all the time...goes great with a stylish tin foil hat. :p
 
You want to keep that on as long as you can because it was developed by the Jews to hide guns during the Holocaust.

And to think that guy gets to vote!!! That's frightening.

Thats exactly what I thought when I read it and he has a gun too. Sounds like someone with a low I.Q. who easily gets fooled. What party do you think he would favor, Tea party, Republican, or Democrat?
 
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