bestseller92
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I eventually sold my J22 to my uncle for ten bucks.
I've always felt bad about ripping him off for a sawbuck like that.
I've always felt bad about ripping him off for a sawbuck like that.
What's the biggest piece of crap pistol you've ever owned?
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I've only had 2 guns that I considered 'crap' One was a Taurus 380 and the other a documented lemon SIG P220. Sold them both & haven't looked back since
One was a Taurus 380 and the other a documented lemon SIG P220. Sold them both & haven't looked back sincePowderman
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A double ditto to the person who posted that ALL manufacturers can sometimes have a lemon. Of course, some have lemon GROVES...
Of the guns listed as pieces of (you know what), here's my experience...
1. Ruger Mark II. I have the Competition Model; I have had it since 1998. The only time it jammed was when I let it get too dirty, and ran it dry. Then, it was a simple slow feed that was cured by cleaning. This thing is dead accurate with cheap ammo--sub 1" groups, 10 rounds, with a 4x scope off the bench at 50 yards. I used mine for an Indoor Pistol match today--ran like a champ.
2. Colt 1911 Gov't Model: I have a Series 80 Enhanced; bought new in 1994. I will estimate that I have about 10K or so rounds through it; the only departures from a box-stock factory gun are the Bo-Mar BMCS-2 rear and dovetailed front, and a 20 lb. Wolff recoil spring. It has fed everything from 185 gr. LSWC to 230 grain ball, in various configurations. It still has the original barrel, too. How accurate is it? It was my first competition gun, and was on the firing line at Camp Perry, 1999.
How reliable is it? The only pistol that I have that comes close for reliability is a Glock 22. It has jammed twice; once because of a bad magazine, and once because of my dorked up handloads. It still holds X-ring accuracy to 25 yards.
Do I trust it? It's my duty gun.
I think here that the overall incidence of bad performance should be taken into account, as opposed to disclaiming a brand or make based on single performances of a single model. Just my .02 cents, though.
Of the guns listed as pieces of (you know what), here's my experience...
1. Ruger Mark II. I have the Competition Model; I have had it since 1998. The only time it jammed was when I let it get too dirty, and ran it dry. Then, it was a simple slow feed that was cured by cleaning. This thing is dead accurate with cheap ammo--sub 1" groups, 10 rounds, with a 4x scope off the bench at 50 yards. I used mine for an Indoor Pistol match today--ran like a champ.
2. Colt 1911 Gov't Model: I have a Series 80 Enhanced; bought new in 1994. I will estimate that I have about 10K or so rounds through it; the only departures from a box-stock factory gun are the Bo-Mar BMCS-2 rear and dovetailed front, and a 20 lb. Wolff recoil spring. It has fed everything from 185 gr. LSWC to 230 grain ball, in various configurations. It still has the original barrel, too. How accurate is it? It was my first competition gun, and was on the firing line at Camp Perry, 1999.
How reliable is it? The only pistol that I have that comes close for reliability is a Glock 22. It has jammed twice; once because of a bad magazine, and once because of my dorked up handloads. It still holds X-ring accuracy to 25 yards.
Do I trust it? It's my duty gun.
I think here that the overall incidence of bad performance should be taken into account, as opposed to disclaiming a brand or make based on single performances of a single model. Just my .02 cents, though.
MikeS.
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"and I couldn't hit a barn if I were in it."
Now that is BAD!
Now that is BAD!
Detritus
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Didn't actually own it, and i wouldn't go as far as to call it a POS pistol, but...
the rather worn Ruger Standard .22 (or whatever they called the pre Mk1 version, with no bolt hold open and a 9 round mag) my father owns. it hasn't fed 4 rounds running without a stoppage in over 15 years.
now the REASON i won't call it a POS. it's the two magazines dad has, one's the pretty much trashed, 40+ year old factory original unit, the other I bought and lets just say that it was bought b/c it was affordable (to me, a then college student) and would actually FIT dad's gun. Note: the mags for the models with bolt stops (most ruger .22s) are a mirror image of the original (no bolt stop) version, ie the follower button and the slot it moves in switched sides, to allow last shot bolt hold open. and Ruger treats mags for the early models like their handing gold plated.
calling this old timer a POS would be like calling a weathered but other wise cared for classic car a rust bucket b/c you keep trying to take it for a drive with a "bombed out" fuel system, that you mean to fix but just never get around to.
the rather worn Ruger Standard .22 (or whatever they called the pre Mk1 version, with no bolt hold open and a 9 round mag) my father owns. it hasn't fed 4 rounds running without a stoppage in over 15 years.
now the REASON i won't call it a POS. it's the two magazines dad has, one's the pretty much trashed, 40+ year old factory original unit, the other I bought and lets just say that it was bought b/c it was affordable (to me, a then college student) and would actually FIT dad's gun. Note: the mags for the models with bolt stops (most ruger .22s) are a mirror image of the original (no bolt stop) version, ie the follower button and the slot it moves in switched sides, to allow last shot bolt hold open. and Ruger treats mags for the early models like their handing gold plated.
calling this old timer a POS would be like calling a weathered but other wise cared for classic car a rust bucket b/c you keep trying to take it for a drive with a "bombed out" fuel system, that you mean to fix but just never get around to.
I bought a Rossi .38spl from a gun shop 20yrs ago, it was way out of time and would through lead in a 270 degree angle man it was like shooting a Claymore. I was able to trade it back to the gun shop and with a little more $ I got a Ruger single six 22/22mag I later traded it for a 12ga 870 Wingmaster which I still have
man it was like shooting a Claymore. I was able to trade it back to the gun shop and with a little more $ I got a Ruger single six 22/22mag I later traded it for a 12ga 870 Wingmaster which I still have Cousin Mike
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Hi-Point .380 was the biggest POS I've ever owned. At least 3 failures-to-something in every magazine. Bought NIB for $100.00, sold to a co-worker a couple months later for $90. Worst $10 I ever spent. 
Blacklabman
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Rifles--
Never have owned a bad one. The only one that I grew to dislike, was a A-Bolt 300WSM when I just had to try the" latest and greatest".
Revolvers.
Smith and Wesson 329. IL lockup. It was sold, once it was returned.
Pistols.
H&K P2000.
Slide was cracked for the factory. Returned to dealer for refund, will not give the company another look.
Shotguns.
Never have owned a bad one. My older and newer Browning's just keep thumping away.
Never have owned a bad one. The only one that I grew to dislike, was a A-Bolt 300WSM when I just had to try the" latest and greatest".
Revolvers.
Smith and Wesson 329. IL lockup. It was sold, once it was returned.
Pistols.
H&K P2000.
Slide was cracked for the factory. Returned to dealer for refund, will not give the company another look.
Shotguns.
Never have owned a bad one. My older and newer Browning's just keep thumping away.
I got rid of it 20 years ago. It was the most reliably unreliable pistol I ever owned, every time I picked it up I knew it was going to jam.fineredmist
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Jennings J22
I got this one from a widow who hated guns. This POS was a total crapshoot to load as it had a poorly fitted extractor that would at times act as a firing pin. Load the mag, retract the slide and it might just go bang without pulling the trigger. The little POS went full auto on one occassion and that was enough. I introduced the J22 to my 10 lb. hammer and that was all she wrote. It was not worth the effort to try to correct the problem.
I got this one from a widow who hated guns. This POS was a total crapshoot to load as it had a poorly fitted extractor that would at times act as a firing pin. Load the mag, retract the slide and it might just go bang without pulling the trigger. The little POS went full auto on one occassion and that was enough. I introduced the J22 to my 10 lb. hammer and that was all she wrote. It was not worth the effort to try to correct the problem.
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S&W 3" Model 65 R/B. Barely used, guy who bought it new worked as a P/T Deputy and could not qualify with it. I got it for $100 figuring he just could not shoot. Wasn't him! The gun would not shoot a group less than 6" at 15 yards in anyones hands with any ammo. Gun was tight as a drum, had it looked at buy a very reputable smitty. Could not find anything wrong with it. Sold it to someone aware of the problem, had the same problem and he dumped it. In retrospect I should have sent it back to S&W but they were a little cheaper then and was not worth the hassle. Never had a problem before or after with a Smith, it happens I quess. Bill
Charles S
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Without question my Ruger P85 was the worst handgun I ever owned. Finicky about ammo and I could not consistently keep everything on a paper plate at 25 feet. I sold it and have never missed it.
A close second was a Springfield compact, that after multiple trips to the gunsmith remained unreliable. I choose not to keep that gun either, but I did love how it felt in my hand. If I could have ever trusted it...It would have been a great carry gun.
A close second was a Springfield compact, that after multiple trips to the gunsmith remained unreliable. I choose not to keep that gun either, but I did love how it felt in my hand. If I could have ever trusted it...It would have been a great carry gun.
PX15
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1. new Beretta Tomcat
2. new Charter Arms Pathfinder
3. new Taurus PT22
4. Chinese Tokarev.... duh?
JP
2. new Charter Arms Pathfinder
3. new Taurus PT22
4. Chinese Tokarev.... duh?
JP
jimmyraythomason
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While some manufacturers may be a little lax in quality control, I have found that a number of problems that I have encountered with used firearms are a direct result of a previous owners attempts to "improve" the arm in some fashion and the manufacturer cannot be faulted(sorry about the runon sentence). Believe it or not I have had revolvers that failed to fire as a result of a light primer strike traced back to a shortened hammer spring to make it easier to shoot double action! I once had a Mauser 98 that had 3 coils removed from the striker spring, Why? I dunno. I've had "trigger jobs" that made a firearm too dangerous to load! Just saying that ALL flaws in a firearm may not be inherent but may very well be "environmental".
knifestuff
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stainless steel Mauser HsC in .380 ACP--wouldn't feed reliably regardless of different ammo or magzines, gritty trigger, and feeble magazine retention--only gun I've ever own where the magazine literally fell out of the pistol when firing.
AAnicito
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Biggest piece of crap pistol
I bought a 22lr Erma 22 Luger in 1967 or 68.NIB I called it Mr. Jam.I still have it. It was my first pistol.
I bought a 22lr Erma 22 Luger in 1967 or 68.NIB I called it Mr. Jam.I still have it. It was my first pistol.
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I had the same experience with that model. FTF about 1 round every few mags. But I attribute it to the .40S&W shape. I think all manufacturers find it's a difficult round to chamber reliably. Even Glocks, which have attained "perfection" seem to report significantly more .40 problems than 9mm. I may not buy another .40S&W again, but I wouldn't hesitate to look at S&W's other offerings.
craig
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colt mk.iv. series 70. bought it new in 79 i think.
a very expensive single shot pistol.
traded it for a s&w629
haven't bought a colt since.
a very expensive single shot pistol.
traded it for a s&w629
haven't bought a colt since.
Tbu61
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Amazing!
I had an RG revolver given to me, spit lead really bad. I took it fishing years back, it's an artificial reef now.
As for the J-22, I bought one years back for peanuts ($20). That thing wasn't very accurate, but it NEVER jammed once. It was tons of fun at the campsite shooting soda cans.
Had an Erma "Luger" too, that worked fine.... Wish I never sold it.
Every gun is a story unto itself.
I had an RG revolver given to me, spit lead really bad. I took it fishing years back, it's an artificial reef now.
As for the J-22, I bought one years back for peanuts ($20). That thing wasn't very accurate, but it NEVER jammed once. It was tons of fun at the campsite shooting soda cans.
Had an Erma "Luger" too, that worked fine.... Wish I never sold it.
Every gun is a story unto itself.
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Charles Daly 1911
Charles Daly 1911 .45 was absolutely the worst I've owned. Using factory mags and all sorts of good quality ammo, had FTF, FTE, and (very soon thereafter) a broken ejector - all this was in less than 100 rounds.
Have owned dozens of handguns incl. S&W, Colt (many), KelTec, Taurus, Llama, Walther, etc. Even the cheapest of these were much better than the CD.
I'm not inclined to let factory or gunsmith work out fundamental problems on a new firearm - just as I expect a new car or appliance to at least minimally function; additionally I expect a firearm to function safely.
Whether the CD was a lemon among better fruit, or just another CD lemon made little difference to me. It is one thing to have a new iPod or coffe maker not work, and quite another to have a new firearm not function.
Charles Daly 1911 .45 was absolutely the worst I've owned. Using factory mags and all sorts of good quality ammo, had FTF, FTE, and (very soon thereafter) a broken ejector - all this was in less than 100 rounds.
Have owned dozens of handguns incl. S&W, Colt (many), KelTec, Taurus, Llama, Walther, etc. Even the cheapest of these were much better than the CD.
I'm not inclined to let factory or gunsmith work out fundamental problems on a new firearm - just as I expect a new car or appliance to at least minimally function; additionally I expect a firearm to function safely.
Whether the CD was a lemon among better fruit, or just another CD lemon made little difference to me. It is one thing to have a new iPod or coffe maker not work, and quite another to have a new firearm not function.
absolute0
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I always enjoy these threads. Some of the imaginative & colorful language chosen to voice the owners displeasure in a POS gun is priceless!
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That's the polar opposite of mine. Mine is an old police trade-in. It's been shot a lot before I had it(far more than I can even estimate) and it's been shot quite a bit in my possession. The parts look stock and I never had to replace anything on it. Never an issue.
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Taurus 94
Junky, junky trigger. Unbelievably heavy DA pull. Didn't have to worry about those two issues so much because the gun was only useable in SA. Plus, the cylinder would bind every 50 rounds even when ejecting the empties straight down and cleaning the forcing cone and cylinder face every third reload. Sent it back to Taurus, 5 weeks later I got the un-fixed gun back.
It's long gone, replaced by a truly marvelous S&W K-22 Masterpiece.
Junky, junky trigger. Unbelievably heavy DA pull. Didn't have to worry about those two issues so much because the gun was only useable in SA. Plus, the cylinder would bind every 50 rounds even when ejecting the empties straight down and cleaning the forcing cone and cylinder face every third reload. Sent it back to Taurus, 5 weeks later I got the un-fixed gun back.
It's long gone, replaced by a truly marvelous S&W K-22 Masterpiece.
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