When meeting new girls...

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Yes, I am often the only female shooter at the range, and no one has ever tried to get my phone number!

That's an easy fix, move closer to the 30th parallel. Nobody would think it unusual if you got asked out at the range.

Just be yourself, the rest will work itself out. Tinpig made a good point and backed it up with 42 years. That's impressive! Go with that.
 
Old Krow,

I figured that it had more to do with the fact that I don't go to the range to flirt, I'm there for 'business' and I guess everyone respects that. But one of the other posters put that out there as a possibility for the OP for meeting women. I've just never personally experienced it!
 
Yes, I am often the only female shooter at the range, and no one has ever tried to get my phone number

Come on down here, and I'm sure you could rectify that.


BTW, the Niagara region isn't *that* far of a commute, what's your numer?:D
 
To the OP:

Pay careful attention to everything this guy does, then be sure not to do anything that remotely resembles him.
http://www.youtube.com/user/TerriLi#p/u/3/_q4otckyw_4

If she asks about guns, give her an honest answer. If the topic doesn't come up, don't bring it up. If she asks about hobbies, then you can mention that you are into shooting. Most importantly, relax. You'll be fine.

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Oh yeah, might want to limit carrying to pocket carry...if you have occasion to, uh, shed layers of clothing for whatever reason then that XDM 40 you had IWB is guaranteed to get some attention.

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I read the post below me and just had to say that I'm glad it worked out in that guy's case, but I wouldn't tell a girl I wanted to drive her out of town to a cemetary in a truck full of guns, dogs, and shovels. Might not go over so well.
 
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This is kind of a fun thread. It makes me feel young again.

Sir, don't finesse it in any way. Just relax and be yourself. Too many people here are making a big issue about it. It is, but it isn't. If it comes up in conversation, then talk about it. It if doesn't feel right, then don't. Play it by ear. Enjoy getting to know your new lady and if it's right it will go well, whether she has preconceived notions about firearms or not. She could be a big anti, but if she respects you she will listen to you. And it can work the other way too. She could be an NRA instructor and if you're a jerk she will find another reason not to listen to you. Relax, don't develop a script. Have fun.

When I met my wife I was an instructor for an agency. She had never been around guns or dogs. I took her to lunch on her break from work, to a quiet place, a cemetery at the edge of town. Beautiful. Picnic lunch. In the back of the truck I had my two big Chessies, and she hadn't been around dogs either. I let them out and introduced them to the lady. They weighed 105 each, she weighed 95. Also in the back of the truck was a shovel (used to set up targets), two dozens sets of headphones, glasses, and about 7,000 rounds of ammo, clearly labeled, that I had just picked up at work. I hadn't meant for my first impression to be quite so strong. We got through it. But it is something we laugh about now.

Just enjoy and don't plan a damn thing. It won't do you any good.
 
Old Krow,

I figured that it had more to do with the fact that I don't go to the range to flirt, I'm there for 'business' and I guess everyone respects that. But one of the other posters put that out there as a possibility for the OP for meeting women. I've just never personally experienced it!

:D It wasn't really meant to be taken seriously, but...

We have singles ranges by here.

There's the 20s range, but it's usually filled with kids and those stupid glow sticks with hi-cap autos that makes conversation sorta pointless.

There's the 30s range. I'm scared of that one because I feel like when the Glocks start exploding they're all going to go at the same time. :what:

There's the 40s range. It's not too bad in there and they clean up their own brass. They're stuck between Glocks and revolvers, I've never really figured them out. They're sitting in a pretty good spot with their 401ks though.

The 50s range. Wheel-gun central. Sometimes they sit around and drink coffee together instead of shoot. They have some really good advise though. Never a spot of brass anywhere and all of the targets have one big hole.

The 60s range. I don't go in there because they have had WAY too much practice for me.
 
Feel out it; you'll know when the time is right. Also, be inviting into the world of guns if she's knew, so she will feel welcome to learn about them. I was taught to be that way about music, and it's worked well with guns too. ;)
 
For the record, I don't actually own a van. My Mom does, but it's a minivan.
 
Be yourself; you can not put on an act for 50 years. Be respectful and if you can, try to make her smile and feel safe with you.

Also why do you have problems speaking to women? Is it out of respect for them or is it out of some misplaced insecurity on your part? Answer that to yourself and then work on it. They (women) are people just like you and many will judge you by the way you speak. Quite silent type works for some boring to others.

Trust me many women are much better at verbalizing certain things than men...You just gotta get them so you can wine them up on a topic. Hummmm
 
I asked Mrs. 52grain about this. Her reaction was something along the lines of shouldn't she just know? He's a man isn't he?

I guess her reaction probably depends on where she's from. In the free world everyone owns guns and it's more or less assumed, in communist states maybe less so.

I wouldn't specifically bring it up. It will come up in conversation at some point or she'll see firearm paraphernalia at your place.
 
I may be pushing threescore but I married late in life--I will celebrate the tenth anniversary of my first and only wedding in March--and I still remember what it's like out there.

At your young age, you think you've got girl-problems? Try it in twenty years or so when they come complete with baggage--a kid or three, an ex-husband or two, at LEAST three failed affairs (one of which was with her boss:what:)--you get the idea.

The point here is that you have to just take things as they come. I offer an example: my late mother took great delight in setting her single son up with single women she met in her day-to-day. She had health considerations, so the women with whom she set me up were frequently in the medical profession (if only as the receptionist).

Once she set me up with one of these women. Age compatable, we agreed to meet at a Mexican restaurant close to her home. I had a beer while I waited for her then carried it to the table when we were seated. When the server came, I ordered another with my meal. She didn't.

It turned out that:
1) She was a Christian (at the time, I wasn't).
2) She hated guns because her late husband had killed himself with one.
3) She didn't drink because he was drunk when he did it.

Talk about baggage...:eek:

All of this came out in the hour or so it took us to eat the meal.

On the other hand, when my wife and I first started dating, the subject came up and I said I had a couple of guns (a .45 pistol and a 12 gauge shotgun) and I hoped to get more, and if that was a deal-breaker then we needed to know now. She told me that, while she didn't particularly LIKE guns, she had nothing against them, as long as they weren't laying all over the house, loaded.

Her conversion from gun-ambivalent to a shooter and gun owner is the subject of another thread.

The moral here is to let the topic come up naturally (don't worry, it will) and above all LISTEN to her.

Gook luck and good hunting...

ed
 
Geeze, the only time I meet new girls anymore I always seem to end up with a year's supply of Girl Scout cookies!!
 
Take her on a date to a gun show, judge her responce on that.

If/When she she says something about it, just tell her every man should know how to handle a gun, fix a car, set the table for dinner and dance.
 
Whether or not she is into guns should not be a basis for a relationship, just like if you were not into photography or finger painting and she was.

Uh... no.... Being "into" guns or not "into" guns IMO says a lot about a persons' character. Now maybe they have not ... "got there yet" and that's the real question. However, much like religion and politics, it's a hot button and a way to really cut to the core of a person IMO. Now it's not flawless - there are lots of great people that guns just aren't their thing. But I don't want to date, live with, marry or procreate with a non-gun friendly woman.

Maybe vikinggirl and the OP should meet??
 
No way! Most women do NOT enjoy gun shows.... Next time you to a gun show, observe all the chicks bored out of their minds as their boyfriends drag them around.

Do you HONESTLY enjoy going clothes shopping with a chick? She will probably not HONESTLY enjoy going to a gun show with you. ;)

Later down the road, if she wants to go, she will let you know.
 
I would say that telling a girl you carry a gun is a lot like telling a girl that you carry a condom in your wallet.

[ Off topic but an important safety note, heat degrades latex; carrying a condom in you wallet for more than a few days will cause a failure you don't want. It is OK for the time a typical date lasts, just throw it out at the end (no matter how things turn out) and start with a freash one next time. ]

Carrying a firearm: You do everything you can to make sure you never have to use and if you are a little lucky you never will. Carrying the other...
 
If the topic comes up, mention it. Otherwise there's no reason to bring up most hobbies out-of-context. I like the condom line posted above.

I mentioned getting my CCW when describing my week to a girl who eventually became my girlfriend. At the time I wasn't considering a relationship so I didn't really care if she was freaked. Guess I got lucky--she wants to go target shooting, and deer & turkey hunting now.



No way! Most women do NOT enjoy gun shows.... Next time you to a gun show, observe all the chicks bored out of their minds as their boyfriends drag them around.

That reminds me, the last gun show I went to was a bizarre experience. With respect to all the perfectly normal ladies who I know accompany their SOs to other gun shows, the majority of women at this show had something wrong with them. Like, physical deformities or signs I'd usually take to indicate birth defects or developmental disabilities. Bloody weird.
 
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Don't stress over it. It'll come out when the two of you starr talking of interests, hobbies and such. Don't go all comnando on the subject, just be yourself.
That said... be sure to do it before she moves in and you buy the ring :D.
Oh yeah, be a gentleman and open the doors for her.
 
Location might make a difference. Here in Washington, most of the girls tend to be indifferent to guns. A few are even pro gun! Facebook is also a good idea, because it shows that you are a normal guy.

Vikinggirl: The "I'm training leave me alone" factor may be whats keeping people from approaching you at the range, but it could also be that some guys just aren't interested in women who can out shoot them. :D
 
If "being yourself" involves not talking to girls, like it does for many guys, then "being yourself" is obviously not a good strategy if you are looking for dates.

Personally I'd use the "potato peeler" strategy mentioned before; it will come up when it comes up.

I don't really "date", but I've had mostly poor experiences mixing girls and guns, so these days I'm not chomping at the bit to do so anyway. Though to be fair the issues were probably more to do with their newbie status or my teaching than gender; I know plenty of women who are perfectly competent with a firearm, they just weren't introduced to them by me.

I also agree with the guy that said facebook would be one way to do it passively, assuming only a small percentage of your FB content is gun related. If your entire content is a thousand pictures of you at the range, it will come off strongly, for better or worse.
 
On a side note, I've heard it can be best to have an impartial third party teach a significant other how to shoot, here on Cornered Cat.

I know that once my dad went over the pure basics of driving, and some road time with me, he passed me off to a family friend to prep me for the driving test. Something about a third party in the whole deal made it a lot less personal, and more professional.
 
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