REAPER4206969
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Colt is the major pusher of "smart guns."
S&W's big complaint is their conspiring with Clinton and their locks.
S&W's big complaint is their conspiring with Clinton and their locks.
Who has the >LEAST< respected name in guns?
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AKElroy
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How exactly was a skinny unarmed woman holding an infant a danger to Mr. Hariuchi or the rest of those agents? Seems to me he either violated all four rules, or he deliberately took a shot an an unarmed defenseless mother. One or the other. I would call it AT BEST a tragic mistake; the worst possible kind of negligence. Hardly the kind of action that would qualify him to be a spokesman for a firearm manufacturer.
One thing I know for sure---If they had left the Weaver family alone rather than entrapping Randy with a bogus shotgun hack, they would all be alive today.
Deanimator
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Lon Horiuchi is a murderer.
I believe I met him in Korea. If it was the same person, there's no doubt that he knew he was shooting a woman holding a baby and he ENJOYED it.
No doubt you "respect and honor" Joachim Peiper's "service" as well.
Colt, Ruger and S&W branded knives are not produced by Colt, Ruger or S&W. They're produced by companies that licensed the brand for their products. If the products are junk then the company producing/marketing them are primarily at fault, but it never hurts to tell the brand that they're reputation is being destroyed by the cheap product being produced by the licensee.
Rail Driver
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hso said:
While I can understand the "sellout" comment, and also hso's response, I just had to mention that I recently bought a S&W H.R.T. OTF spring assist knife, and while it does have a polymer body, the blade is good steel, the mechanism is well made and robust, and the fit and finish are great. It's probably one of the better knives I've owned (though it was $55 and I'm not the type that is willing to drop more than $60-70 on a knife I'm going to use). The blade came VERY sharp, and holds an edge well. All in all, the S&W name isn't insulted by being laser etched on this blade. I also own a Colt Jungle Commander bowie knife (more a survival/rambo type knife, very nearly a machete) that has held up to extremely hard use (I use it to split logs for my fire pit in the back).
As far as S&W firearms, the only one I had that I didn't care for was the S&W Sigma .40 but then I never cared for the .40 cartridge anyway, so I was iffy on that one from the beginning. Aside from that, everything with a S&W logo on it that I've fired, handled, or owned has been top of the line.
Ignition Override
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1) The Auto Ordnance (imitation) M-1 Carbine was bought brand-new in Oct '07.
It was treated gently, never dropped or hit. After about 140 rounds the bolt felt a little bit sticky. I tried to get it moving in the track and suddenly it was jammed very tightly.
The gun smith would not touch it and the store sent it back to the factory for a free repair. It was my first gun purchase and my wife initially asked: "You mean the store won't refund you the $780 for a broken gun"? This was a totally new situation and maybe they would have if I had asked.
2) The only other comment reflects having read about a hundred bad complaints of a certain importer which assembled huge numbers of a foreign semi-auto .308.
The unknowns regarding many of those rifles along with reloading issues prompted me to instead buy a Garand from the CMP.
Do some of these gun corporations allow quality control procedures, outsourced or not, to be determined mostly by the corporate CPA "beancounters"" and their planned profit margins?
It was treated gently, never dropped or hit. After about 140 rounds the bolt felt a little bit sticky. I tried to get it moving in the track and suddenly it was jammed very tightly.
The gun smith would not touch it and the store sent it back to the factory for a free repair. It was my first gun purchase and my wife initially asked: "You mean the store won't refund you the $780 for a broken gun"? This was a totally new situation and maybe they would have if I had asked.
2) The only other comment reflects having read about a hundred bad complaints of a certain importer which assembled huge numbers of a foreign semi-auto .308.
The unknowns regarding many of those rifles along with reloading issues prompted me to instead buy a Garand from the CMP.
Do some of these gun corporations allow quality control procedures, outsourced or not, to be determined mostly by the corporate CPA "beancounters"" and their planned profit margins?
azmjs
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It's a nice website, at least the technical parts and I still consult it for information about guns, but I'm not welcome to post there anymore, and I don't.
A great number them, doubtless the thousands that you mention, choose to live in a fantasy world. I'm sure we're all better off, at least for the time being, not having pins pricked into their bubble.
For the record, if my memory serves me correctly, I was banned for calling someone who was lying a "liar."
It is hazardous to speak truth to power. All this aside, Lon Horiuchi is a patriot who has worked all his life for the United States of America.
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azmjs
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Horiuchi was firing at another person, and his bullet passed through a door to hit the madwoman.
It was a tragic mistake, but the tragic flaw, which is the thing that underlies all classical tragedy, was the madwoman's hubris.
Law Enforcement has no duty to ignore crimes. However, citizens have a duty to avoid criminal wrongdoing.
The thing that would have saved the lives lost at ruby ridge, all of the lives, including the policeman who was murdered, would have been if the weavers had done the right thing.
azmjs
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Lon Horicuhi works for a major gun company and lent his name and expertise to their products to help sell them.
This amounts to doing something *for* the industry and gun ownership.
To put him in the same category as someone like Brady, who has lent her name to destroying gun ownership, is ludicrous.
This amounts to doing something *for* the industry and gun ownership.
To put him in the same category as someone like Brady, who has lent her name to destroying gun ownership, is ludicrous.
RevDerb
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I thought that you meant names like Charleton Heston or Wayne LaPierre, not gun mfgs.
Stevie-Ray
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He is a murderous piece of trash who has hidden his lust for blood behind the confines of a corrupt government organization. In essence he was probably "just what they needed."
AKElroy
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Madwoman's hubris???? What a joke. You either know nothing of this event, or you enjoy thread based arson. Light the fire just to watch it burn. For all the "evil" you claim the Weaver's were responsible for, for all the blood You claim they were responsible for spilling, Randy Weaver is a free man, albeit without his wife and son by his side. As for my vote for the least appropriate spokesman in guns, it would be Lon Horiuchi. He sent that bullet on it's way and he alone is responsible for where it went.
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