Who'd like to see these stocks on the market?

Would you like to see any/all these stock designs on the Market?

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When one goes out to purchase a new bowling ball, they have the holes drilled just right for the size, spacing and angles of three fingers. I don't see why the same attention to detail of the thumb-hole could not be accomplished with the stocks with thumb-holes! I realize it would mean more work, however, you only do it once!I tend to like those that have a free-floating barrel from the chamber, out!

Just an aside here, you are remarkable making these using MS Paint! Unbelievable!

Keep up the great work!
 
FlyinBrian: Heck, I am too! Seems like I kicked over an ant-hill with this thread! I'm inpressed!

Friendly_Don't_Fire!: Thank you! I appreciate your compliment about the paint drawings! It takes me a while to draw the stock designs up... Took me forever my first time doing it, but attention to detail makes things look great! I took drafting in High School, so that's a plus as well (even though it just teached you the basics of how to draw a line, but it's a basic step in engineering and architectural designs).

The reason I am paying this much attention to detail is because accuracy comes from ergonomical as well as mechanical compatibility. The more comfortable the stock is, the less strain and stress you're putting on yourself to keep the rifle in a steady position.

When I'm ready to sell a few (I'm not sure if I want to open this up as a business, maybe just something on the side) I'll have a website set-up with options and prices, where you can choose from color (spray paint and a hard covering, if anyone knows a way I can seal the paint without clear coat let me know, I want it to be clear, but stronger than a spray can applied) to length of pull, to righty of lefty (if applicable to the stock) and some others.

There will be some classical styled stocks in the future as well. My reasoning? Someone who wants to get into hunting, but can't afford a main-stream rifle can buy a cheap mil-surp rifle (Mosin Nagant in this thread's case) and have a decent stock for it that fits them well, for around a C-Note more. Prices aren't set yet, can't to that until I figure costs in, but should only be around $100 or less.

This isn't limited to the Mosin Nagant though. I've got designs for the Mauser and K31 platforms as well (We know the K31 ain't near as cheap, but hey, add-ons are great, even if not needed).

They all, of course, can be seen at the link below.
 
good looking designs... but microsoft paint? I'm sure there are better programs (and free) out there that would make that much easier.
 
I would like to see this kind of design for a Mosin Nagant based on the Tikka Sporter.

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stsimons I think I could work one of those up for you.

1stMarine: I've got a buddy who has an accurized one that does MOA surplus, sometimes better with hand-rolled ammo. If I gan raise him up to go hit the range I can post pics. Lot of time, lot of money into it. Just to show he could.

Hoping my custom turns out just as good.
 
The issue I have is that I'm going to be spending a few hundred dollars on a stock, plus the cost to mount a scope and angle the bolt, to go on an $80 rifle. If you are going to restock with a quality (and expensive) stock, I would rather start with something easier or more common to build upon. There's also a lack of quality ammo and components available for 7.62x54r which makes it even less appealing as a build. For me, I'd pass.
 
I just never really understood putting a lot of money into modernizing or "sporterizing" Mosins. Don't get me wrong, I love mine. I just think the cool thing about owning a Mosin is that you have a gun that has a lot of history behind it. Putting a stock like that on a Mosin is like putting a Ferrari body kit on a 150 hp chevy Malibu. :confused:
 
Again, these stocks AREN'T going to be multi-hundreds of dollars. I've said that numerous times in this thread.

That's fine and dandy if you don't wan't to put these on. More power to you. It's a niche market, and I'm glad I'm seeing the interest that I'm getting.
 
I didn't mean it offensively, just stating I would pass and why. You talk about putting on a Magpul PRS. That's a $175 by itself. Add on the other materials plus your time making these and it's certainly going to be a $300+ stock if you plan to pay yourself anything. You don't see mildly low production volume stocks go cheap. There's a lot of time and effort to make stocks if you don't have a full time manufacturing facility. You look at the stocks from say Boyds and they are under $100, but they make the same patterns inletted for a handful of rifles in huge quantities. If you don't have the duplicators as well as a quick way to finish the stocks you are going to put a lot of man hours in to finish these up. That adds a lot to the price.

Even assuming you don't go with the Magpul version, you are claiming $120 or less as a rough guess. Lets say a plain blank runs $40? That gives you $80 or less for tools and labor. If you have a duplicator things speed up, but still take a while. If you finish them, you have the hours you put in sanding/shaping as well as the cost of the finish itself. If you are looking at buying recoil pads, that would add to the cost. If you plan on using adjustable combs and recoil pads the price goes up even more. Bedding blocks are another added cost. I seriously doubt you can sell a low production volume stock, even without the extras, for $120 and have it be anywhere near worth the time involved. If you you've got $40 in the blank, $10 on in the tools, $10 in the recoil pad that would leave $60. If, and that's a big if, you can produce a stock in 5 hours (which would take a duplicator) you would be paying yourself $12 an hour. If you have to make everything from scratch and it takes twice as long, you're only seeing $6 an hour, which certainly isn't worth it as a money maker.

I'm not suggesting you don't make these. I'm suggesting you really look at cost and time involved in making a stock. It's not a quick and easy thing when you don't do it full time as a living. Out of curiosity, have you made any stocks from scratch for any rifle yet? I would be worried more about learning how to make them before you worry about selling them. Some of those designs are interesting and would be fun, but I just don't see you getting them done for $120 or less.
 
I'm not talking about doing this as my sole source of income. I'm a welder. That's my profession, and admittedly, that's really all that I could tell you the in's and out's about. I know some about my guns, but I learn more and more everyday and there's still thousands upon thousands of minute little details about them that I still need to learn.

This is a side gig. I really don't have an interest in making this mainstream, full scale anything. Any profit from this would probably go into a savings account for emergencies, or as a "Guns Fund" so to speak. But I don't want to charge an arm and a leg. And if I produce the PRS stock, it'll just be fitted with the buffer tube adapter. I couldn't afford one of those stocks, and honestly, I don't think I'd try and re-sell 'em. They're mainly for the folks who already have one. Gives the option of interchangeability.

My action inletting idea is a simple one. Easy to duplicate, and with testing I'll find out if it works as good as I want it too. It's pretty differen't than what's already out there.

Bottom line, reasonable prices for reasonable people. I said before, I don't like paying an arm and a leg for things we know and love, and I really don't think we should have to.
 
i picked up a new mosin tonight for the sole purpose of one of your stocks. As far as history goes for these guns, look at the finns. they were modernized and fit to a countrys liking and they are some of the most disired. Why is this any different?
 
Lol KAMAK I admire your support. I'll keep you updated. I'll make a prototype and test it out extensively for accuracy. And when I can get you yours, I would like to have you so some testing yourself and write a review as well.
 
There's also a lack of quality ammo and components available for 7.62x54r which makes it even less appealing as a build. For me, I'd pass.
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yet four boxes of s&b 174grain hpbt's showed up at my doorstep, there are several companies making match ammo in 7.62x54r & even more options if you roll your own
 
Indeed, dirtyjim.

There's a lot of reasons I'm going to make these stocks. Aesthetics (love the original, but with so many made, someone's gotta tinker), accuracy gains, good ergonomics...

There's always the fun-factor involved when you're grouping with a good looking rifle.
 
Dirtyjim, honestly, there are maybe 3 "match" factory loads, all of which cost from $2-$3 a round, all with the single SMK bullet option that could be considered a "match" bullet. Hardly a vast supply and certainly not cheap.
 
Then for accurate surplus ammunition, there is the 7.62x54R 7N1 ammunition.

The link to youtube videos posted by 1stmarine they were using wwb and getting good results.

There is such a thing as hand loading to. I've read about very accurate Mosin-Nagants on the interwebz, and I'm hoping these stocks will bring out the best in the Mosin platform in their barreled action configuration.

I've got a custom project in mind for the Mosin Nagant, including a UK-59 bbl. I'm wondering what accuracy will be like with that? Or maybe go and have a custom barrel made and turned for precision accuracy... Hmm. Decisions, decisions, and absolutely not a dang thing wrong with the Mosin any way I go.
 
If you have a custom barrel turned, and plan to reload, get it with a .308 barrel so that you can load all of the great .308 bullets rather than the 1 good bullet for .311.
 
Haven't quite gotten a start on 'em quite yet. Will let you know when we get one mocked up, function checked, and beta tested. We'll give ya a heads up.

For a good piece of finishing plywood, I figure it's around 80 or so bucks for the best grade sheet (from what I'm told). The size of the stock dependent, I think I could do 2-3, maybe 4 stocks from one sheet using a laminate technique. Will have to do some checking on this, but everything should work out.
 
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