Why is my brain doing this to me?
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pbearperry
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I had the same thing years ago but it involved Redheads.
Uncle Mike
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Whew, IF all the planets align.....and the shot is pristine!
desidog
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.243 is good well past 200 yds. The only factor you have to consider a bit more at those ranges is cross-wind. The lighter bullet will get pushed a bit more, but if you've practiced, can read the grass and foliage, and know your personal limits, you'll be well within the ability of the cartidge.
Don't let the hype of new cartridges sway you: if you walk into a store looking for ammo, chances are they'll have some .243 to fit the bill. The newer stuff...not necessarily.
Don't let the hype of new cartridges sway you: if you walk into a store looking for ammo, chances are they'll have some .243 to fit the bill. The newer stuff...not necessarily.
Hardtarget
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I was listening to the voices in my head last Friday. I finally decided...they are crazier than I am...so I turned on the radio! I feel better now.
If you've debated your caliber choice and decided on .243 then you should go with it! You'll be happy. It will do a great job on deer.
Never worry...you can pick up that 7-08 later...next week!
Remember- range report!
Mark
If you've debated your caliber choice and decided on .243 then you should go with it! You'll be happy. It will do a great job on deer.
Never worry...you can pick up that 7-08 later...next week!
Remember- range report!
Mark
Maverick223
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Which is something that MUST change! I am even willing to settle...I'll take a .260Rem., 6.5mmCreedmoor, 6.5x55mmSwede, and heck I'll even settle for the 6.5x47mmLapua (though it would probably see a reamer shortly thereafter). Do we see a pattern here?...6.5mm is the goldilocks cal. for a moderate case size IMO.
chains1240
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Whew, IF all the planets align.....and the shot is pristine!
How the heck do I reply with a quote on this board? Anyhow. I meant it should have enough energy at 200 yards since I will be limiting myself to those shots.
How the heck do I reply with a quote on this board? Anyhow. I meant it should have enough energy at 200 yards since I will be limiting myself to those shots.
Maverick223
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The little text bubble icon at the top of the "quick reply" or "advanced reply" (beside the picture).
chains1240
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Thank you. Other boards simply say "reply" and "reply with quote"
Wanta B
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bad_aim_billy
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A 7-08 sounds like a fine all-around gun to me. Ammo shouldn't be too big an issue if your state allows it to be shipped. A Vanguard isn't too heavy, in fact only a pound heavier than many "lightweight" guns like an XS7 or Tikka T3. Put a decent name-brand scope on it, and yer good to go.
chains1240
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The scope was not as hard of a decision. I was thinking a 4-16x50 Nikon Monarch.
I have a .243 and use it for deer and like it alot.
But,
if I was looking for a cartridge just for whitetail deer, the 6.5 x 55 or .260 Rem would be my choice. Scope would be 3x9 Zeiss Conquest
Reasons-
Good balance between power and recoil.
Bullets with high BC and SD.
Good long range performance because of efficiency.
Accuracy potential
But,
if I was looking for a cartridge just for whitetail deer, the 6.5 x 55 or .260 Rem would be my choice. Scope would be 3x9 Zeiss Conquest
Reasons-
Good balance between power and recoil.
Bullets with high BC and SD.
Good long range performance because of efficiency.
Accuracy potential
AKElroy
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If you want more power than the .243 but want to retain easily available lower cost ammo in good variety, go .308. or better yet, get both.
Maverick223
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You have good taste in cartridges and optics.
sarduy
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the cure is .308
Steel Talon
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25-06 ;aunching a 115 grain nos partition
chains1240
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The availability of 25-06 ammo in my area is pretty light. I have kicked around .308, one of my first choices, but the lightest factory ammo I see on the shelf is 150 grains. Overkill for sure, with unnecessary recoil.
JimKirk
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My thinking: The 243 Winchester is a fine Whitetail deer caliber with 85- 100 bullets. I like 95-100s myself. I can't even remember how many deer have been killed by my Rem 700 in 243. I, myself have been shooting a 25/06 for 40 yrs. and have been well pleased with it. Many deer and hogs have fallen with it. I lke the 115-120 gr. bullets in it. You won't be displeased with a 25/06!
If I felt the need for something bigger than .25/06 cal., I would step up to the 7MM Magnum, tote a big gun for big game, smaller ligher gun for smaller game.
Jimmy K
If I felt the need for something bigger than .25/06 cal., I would step up to the 7MM Magnum, tote a big gun for big game, smaller ligher gun for smaller game.
Jimmy K
AKElroy
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.25-06 is seriously overbore, and really needs a 26" tube to be efficient. When you combine that with a long action, is really not a comparable rig to the rifles in the .308 family. 7mm-08 is a great cartirige, but is a handicap from an ammo variety standpoint for the non-handloaders like me.
If you want a handi, compact deer getter, then it is hard to fault any of the .308 family. None require a tube longer than 22" to be effective, all have actions 1/2" shorter than the long actions, and all will take most NA game cleanly. The .243 & .308 clearly provide more variety of ammo on the shelf, so everyone should have one of each.
I have heard that Innuits use the .243 nearly exclusively, and they have kodiac & polar bears to deal with.
If you want a handi, compact deer getter, then it is hard to fault any of the .308 family. None require a tube longer than 22" to be effective, all have actions 1/2" shorter than the long actions, and all will take most NA game cleanly. The .243 & .308 clearly provide more variety of ammo on the shelf, so everyone should have one of each.
I have heard that Innuits use the .243 nearly exclusively, and they have kodiac & polar bears to deal with.
cal74
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I don't think the 25-06 is that badly overbored, actually a nice combo for the .25 caliber. I just put some money down on a .257 Weatherby yesterday.
I don't see how you can consider the .308 with a 150 grain bullets overkill and they don't recoil that bad either. Ammo can be found in just about any place that carries ammo.
chains1240
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I guess what I meant was that if a .243 with 85-100 grain bullets will cleanly kill a dear, or so I have heard, than a .308 with a 150 grain bullets would be more than what is needed with more recoil to go along with it. When I shot my friends 30-06 at the range with a 150 grain bullet the recoil bothered me. I agree that .308 ammo is plentiful, and in a wide variety too though.
AKElroy
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I think it is a great cartridge & a nice choice for deer. Overbore is meant to refer to the fact that the long-case capacity of the 06' in a .25" bore needs a 26" tube to have efficient combustion. (More charge than can be burned in a shorter quarter bore tube) I would bet your Weatherby has a 26" tube. Shorter tubes heavily penalize the .25; not so much the .308.
The OP was looking for a .243 vs 7mm-08 comparison; my assumption is he sees some utility in the shorter barrels & shorter action afforded by those options; both being lost on the .25-06.
JimKirk
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The long barrel on a 25/06 will squeeze all you can get out of it.
But I have a 22" Browning A-Bolt that I get more velocity out of than I did my 24" Winchester model 70. More accurate too. So much for assumptions.
The 243 is basically overbore too.
Jimmy K
But I have a 22" Browning A-Bolt that I get more velocity out of than I did my 24" Winchester model 70. More accurate too. So much for assumptions.
The 243 is basically overbore too.
Jimmy K
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