Why we need National CCW Reciprocity now!
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22-rimfire
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I think the NYC and a few other states/cities/counties just need to make carry permits more available to the common man. The elite have no problems getting what they want. The difficulty in obtaining a permit just promotes illegal carry.
I think the Marine should have known better, but I think the City should just spank him quietly and let him go in peace. Take the gun with him when he leaves town.
I think the Marine should have known better, but I think the City should just spank him quietly and let him go in peace. Take the gun with him when he leaves town.
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Once the federal government assumes the power over concealed carry it will mean that the federal government HAS THE POWER and when the wrong people get elected you will not be able to renew your permit when it expires.
THINK PEOPLE!
The federal government has a vested interest in keeping you from being able to resist and gaining control of who can legaly carry a firearm is the best way to idintify potential resistors like you. It always starts this way.
THINK PEOPLE!
The federal government has a vested interest in keeping you from being able to resist and gaining control of who can legaly carry a firearm is the best way to idintify potential resistors like you. It always starts this way.
Ragnar Danneskjold
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The Constitution of the United States is a federal document. The carry of weapons, concealed or otherwise has been a federal issue since the Constitution was written.
tyeo098
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Like I said before...
The mantra of someone who hasn't read the current bill for National Reciprocity
leadcounsel
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Sad to think that in a "free country", a man, particularly a veteran, cannot legally carry a gun in NYC!!! The "gateway" to the free world!!! NYC is just embarrasing if you ask me; corrupt hypocrisy. WHY would anyone even want to go there?!
And a shame that he will likely go to jail and also lose his career because of his lack of knowledge or compliance with silly laws...
And a shame that he will likely go to jail and also lose his career because of his lack of knowledge or compliance with silly laws...
mljdeckard
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And I think this is the direction that is becoming increasingly more effective in our activism. The anti-gun cities and states are looking more and more absurd. We need to continue to use this as PR leverage with strategic lawsuits.
Ragnar Danneskjold
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As a veteran, I can't really see why vets should be granted any more leeway than an average civilian. The US is not supposed to be a nation with special rights for military.
Ghost Tracker
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Agreed, I appreciate his military service but disagree that it somehow places him into a more relaxed category of concealed weapon restrictions. We can argue all day about the fairness, logic or even constitutionality of carry laws in NYC. But at the end of the day, the responsibility of knowing & following those laws still belongs to the individual who makes the choice. Ignorance of the law is not a defensible excuse. Not for the legality of turning right at a red-light (some states yes, some states no) & certainly not for something as politically/socially polarized as handgun carry. This guy made a bonehead mistake. You pay for making them. Little mistakes are cheap. BIG mistakes are expensive. His was a big one.
wheelgunslinger
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In an idyllic daydream of mine, I see our US AG sending troops into to arrest and charge Bloomberg, and spring the citizen out of jail while the NYPD stand around and look at their shoes.
Sorry, but it's a violation of his natural rights. Everything he could do to harm someone with that weapon is already illegal. We don't prosecute people for "might" in this country. We prosecute people for actions.
It's ludicrous that this circus continues without being squashed by the Feds.
Sorry, but it's a violation of his natural rights. Everything he could do to harm someone with that weapon is already illegal. We don't prosecute people for "might" in this country. We prosecute people for actions.
It's ludicrous that this circus continues without being squashed by the Feds.
Ghost Tracker
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You certainly can't be talking about our current AG. He only wants to send weapons to...Mexico.
Thank you! The same should hold true for LEO's when they are off duty and outside of their jurisdiction...
rodinal220
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I thought the Second Amendment to the Bill of RIGHTS(not privelages) was THE LAW OF THE LAND.:banghead:
Ghost Tracker
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Okay fine, so go make your point by carrying a concealed firearm in NYC & let us ALL know how that works out for you. If you want change, use (and don't fight) the system to make it happen. Support & volunteer for candidates who agree with you. Write your (wherever you live) congressman & EXPRESS your position. But simply shouting that IT'S A RIGHT isn't gonna' get (IMHO) much traction with the undecided.
ditch_dgr
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I agree with checking the laws. The wife and I do a lot of traveling on our motorcyle. One of the most complicated parts of the trip planning is determining what I need to do with the gun(s). Where can I carry it, is open carry ok, when do I have to stop and lock it up, and finally what is legal when I get to the destination. Even a simple trip from Virginia to Florida has pitfalls. There is a lot of responsibility in choosing to be armed and knowing the rules is near the top of that list.
beatledog7
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You don't fix bad/unconstitutional legislation by making new, "less bad" legislation -- you fix it by repealing it.
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All-or-nothing isn't the only approach to removing unconstitutional laws. The progression from abolition to current black civil rights, the battle had to be fought over a long time in steps. It would have been nice to have them all at once, but our system doesn't make it easy.
If gun control supporters can erode our rights piece by piece, why can't we restore our rights piece by piece?
we are not amused
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According to Liberals, States have no right to ban Abortion or enforce immigration Laws, and What does a City's desire to require a permit have to do with States Rights? Cities are subservient in legal authority to that of States. The States have sovereignty over cities within their boundaries.
Cities have no rights except those granted to them by their State Governments.
And with the Heller and MacDonald cases, States now have to at least pay lip service to the 2nd Amendment.
The argument over whether the States must honor the licenses of the various States is found in the Fourth Article of the Constitution, Section One (full faith and credit clause) . It clearly states that the Congress shall determine how that is done.
Ragnar Danneskjold
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The Second Amendment is part of a Federal document. It always has been.
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Of course not. Instead of just taking away national reciprocity, they would also force all of the states to conform to the licensing requirements of the most restrictive states, now that we've let the federal government be involved.
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It isn't. (What do I win?)
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