Would you buy a Hi Point?

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mcdonl said:
Rocket it is very rare that someone who has owned one is so against them. They just follow the crowd and say they are ugly (Albiet reliable and accurate....)

There are enough people on this site, including mods who have given the pistol a chance and have had a lot of good to say about them.

Me, I own two. I would own more if the need came up. I could not ever see myself spending more then $500 on a pistol... ever. For a rifle, I would consider going as high as $750....

For some, these are their bare minimum numbers they would spend. A sucker gets what they paid for, a smart man gets MUCH MUCH more.
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Ala Dan said:
For safety's sake, you are kidding aren't U~? High Points [along with some
other manufactuer's] offer NO product liability. In other words, if your
High Point were too KABOOM and injure you or someone else; there would
be nobody too sue over a personal injury claim. So, to answer your question;
NO I would not even think of owning a High Point~!
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Wow, that strikes me as incredibly and quite unnessisarily alamist.

The first, most obvious question I'd ask is has a Hi-Point ever just gone 'Kaboom' on anybody? To my knowledge, no. If you can point out the examples of this beyond heresay, I'm sure this forum would be happy to entertain their discussion. One would be enough, I suppose, though something beyond a fluke would probably help you substantiate this comment more. Likewise, I have personally yet to see any serious discussions anywhere on this topic.

Liability aside, they offer- by all the accounts of actual owners -a lifetime warrenty that is very generous in its terms.

The other aspects of the brand have been discussed to death, however. They're not conceal and carry pistols, heavy for their size and can be picky eaters. They're not pretty, but you're not paying for pretty. That and the fact they use a generous amount of plastic are the main gripes. All things being equal, they're decent pistols with quirks. If those quirks interfere with its function, Hi-point is excellent about fixing them for you, or telling you how to do so yourself.

You'll never get a good concensus on whether you should buy a hi-point, however, mainly due to comments like these. "ZOMG they'll teh SPLODE!" ...seriously?
 
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I might. I just bought a 995ts carbine, but I haven't shot it. The construction reminds me of an AK47. Nothing fancy, but functional. I'm a "bang for the buck" kinda guy. I don't buy crap, but I don't overspend either.

I think the biggest turnoff for me and most people for the pistols is the massive slide for the blowback operation. They don't look like 99% of the pistols that we've all grown up seeing, and because of the size you probably wouldn't carry it.

I'd say if it's a fit for you, who cares what people think of the looks of it? When I go to the range it's usually to enjoy myself and practice, not to impress people.
 
I'd never have another unless I were to find myself broke with none of the guns I now have.
I hear so many say that they are ugly, heavy, uncomfortable to shoot/hold, difficult to operate the slide, rough the list could cover a page. Then the some of the same folks say they are flawlessly dependable and would stake their lives on one. I can't follow that logic at all. The other claim is that they are good for a "truck, boat, tool box, garage/shop, tackle box, nightstand, glove compartment" gun as if it could be placed there and forgotten until that moment of need.
I am all for American products but HiPoints success comes mainly due to lack of a Chinese substitution.
I can sympathize with those who are down on their luck and need a gun but even in that case the breaking in required (claim from actual owners) may make it something of a problem with those of little means. My preference would be one of the many decent used revolvers out their for $250 or under that could have a cylinder of ammo tested into a rural ditch to prove function and then rest comfortably in the nightstand drawer.
 
Closet HiPoint owner

Would I buy one of their pistols? Only if I could put a bag over it before I shot it!
I have said (on this forum) I wouldn't buy one, but that was before I saw the Carbine. I bought one in 9mm and it's a lot of fun at the range. Shoots reliably and accurate. Heavy as hell and PLASTIC, but a lot of fun.
 
Its more or less going to be my HD gun since I am needing
something in a service caliber 9mm or up. I have heard they
do jam a bit, that would be the only negative I can think of
for a HD gun, the looks or status of owning a certain brand
are not so important to me.

The only firearm I have now is a S&W 22.A and I know of course
that would not serve as a defensive weapon. Good for plinking
though.
 
Thats a pretty big negative!
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It's also not true. No more true then for a Kimber 1911 or many other guns discussed on here. Type in jam-o-matic and see what I mean.

Also, the gun does not need a breakin period. Thats nonsense.

The magazines do however need to be left loaded in the beginning as with any other semi-auto the magazine is the root of most problems.

Also, polish the feed ramp.

In my honest opinion, the biggest drawback of hi-points are the magazines. They only have 8 and 10 round capacity.
 
Some of the points you make only solidify my opinion about novice owners.
How many poor people needing defense know how to do even rudimentary gunsmithing much less know how to test ammo or have the resource's to do so.
On the flip side, most who have the means don't need a cheap gun like a HiPoint.
I agree wholeheartedly on the magazines, for a gun that large they should have a larger capacity and be cheaper to buy.
 
A Hi-Point is a weapon with $500 function and accuracy, $400 fit and finish, $300 ammunition capacity, $200 looks, and a $100 price tag.

If you're looking to pay for a gun people will complement, don't buy a HiPoint. If you're looking for something shiny, don't buy a HiPoint. If you want DA, a hammer, or universal accessory rails don't buy a Hi Point. If you want an excellent gun, buy a Hi Point.

My JHP45 cost me $100 NIB from a pawn shop. Its run $300 in ammo without a hitch and I trust it with my life if I need it. I'll definately pick up their 45ACP carbine in a few months. And it shoots better than pistols that literally cost ten times as much.
 
You guys keep making my point about the novice who only wants protection. Your $100 plus $300 in ammo will buy a single mother a solid mod.10 or other basic revolver along with the best 50 rds of ammo money can buy. One or two cylinders will prove the mechanics and she will be covered with a gun with slightly less capacity and much more simple to operate.
If you have a safe full of guns and still want a HiPoint it must be due to a pot metal fetish.
 
Barns, good luck with whatever you decide to do.

Go to http://www.hipointfirearmsforums.com/Forum/index.php and ask the men and women who own and shoot the guns what they think. Coming here and asking the question is like going to a Harley Website and asking what Goldwing is the best.

If you want more info about the gun and how it functions from a THR member check this thread out: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=532284&highlight=hi+point+challenge

^^^ is a fair and honest evaluation of the gun in a competitive shooting situation by a well respected moderator of this site.

Leroy
 
Walt Sherrill said:
If I ever got to the point where I needed a gun that was very inexpensive and reliable, I might get a Hi-Point, as a used model can be hand for almost nothing.

The Hi-Point's reputation, mostly created and sustained by folks who have never had one or shot one, is that they're junk -- but folks here and elsewhere who have first-hand experience with them, speak well of them.

The Hi-Point warranty is outstanding.

The guns are not things of beauty...

As for product liability and kabooms -- when was the last time anyone here heard of 1) a Hi-Point Ka-Boom, or 2) someone successfully taking a gunmaker to court for a malfunction or ka-boom? I'd say that either situation is vary unlikely.

(The massiveness of the Hi-Point slide might actually provide extra protection in the case of a ka-boom.)
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A slide made of frangible zinc cannot, by its' nature, be massive. A cardboard rectangle can be bulky but I wouldn't shoot a gun made of it. In 38 years as a cop I began confiscating them when they were made by "Stallard Arms" and I never found a knowlegeable "gun person" to have one. They were always muggers or burglars or other sneak thief types. I never took one from an armed robber. Even they knew to stay away from them.
 
Hi Points

To answer the original question... No. I would never buy/ carry/ use a Hi Point.
I think so little of them that I seriously wish that folks who carry one would have a big, red sign on their head to warn those around them that have an unsafe and unreliable handgun on their person. They can use them if they like but I wouldn't want to be in the vicinity when they did.:what:
 
Well, I guess that all intelligent conversation has ended in this thread.

And to you aryfrosty my friend, I do not appreciate you lumping me and my daughter in with muggers, burglars and other sneaky thieves.

I am glad to see that you are no longer a cop.
 
I find it funny that people keep saying this gun is Unsafe. Why do I find it funny? Well I can tell you it is about 10 times safer then a 1911, any glock, and most other guns. Even if you try to blow this gun up I bet you can't do it. In the links I posted earlier those two guys did everything they could like of to blow the hi point c9 up with no luck, so if you can say anything about the gun its that its one of the safest guns out there.
 
I have never heard of a Hi-Point going kaboom, but if anyone has the details of such an incedent, I would like very much to hear about it.

YMMV but my Hi-Point did not have a break in period, so IMHO, the idea that a Hi-Point is less cost effective because you go through X amount of ammo to break it in does not hold water. Also, and I admit that I have not been looking for them and may nolt have been in the right places, but these sub-$250 revolvers are not very common in my neck of the woods.

As for reliability, I have never field stripped my Hi-Point. The most I've ever done is run a solvent soaked patch down the barrel. Its still proven to be reliable.

Personaly, I think they are actually pretty good guns, and I will stand by that opinion. If any of y'all wind up in Western Washington, I'd be more than happy to meet you at one of the ranges so you can try one out.

Chris "the Kayak-Man" Johnson
 
A HighPoint is a good gun but if it is to live next to the bed then get a used shotgun. I say this not for those who shoot a HighPoints worth of ammo in a range trip but for the person who wants to protect the family and does not have that much money to do so.
 
No.

And that is definitely a period behind the no!

It's great that some people like them, I personally don't like the ergonomics of them and I find them incredibly hideous looking. IMO a Glock looks gorgeous compared to a Hi Point. Sure they might be reliable and Hi Point's CS may be excellent but I just can't see myself ever spending $100 or even $50 on one of these guns, I just can't do it.
 
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