Would you register your gun(s) with the PD to use a local range?

[ThrottleJockey]

Perhaps my previous statements were a bit callous. I apologize. However, I do not retract my opinion. I just have some problems with the way our education system doesn't work effectively. After all, where do you think antis learn their behaviors?
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[melikesguns]

I agree, teachers are the number one sheeple trainers in the world.

 

[SCKimberFan]

This one is easy. NO.

 

[TAB]

My hand guns are already registered with the CA doj... so I would not worry about it that much.

 

[statelineblues]

No I wouldn't. There are some very nice ranges 20 - 40 minutes from where I live, and I have no problem travelling to them.

Your car is registered when you buy it......... you don't have to re-register it with the damned school police when you drive on campus, do you?

Actually, where I went to college, you did have to - as well as at every military base I was stationed.

I agree with Rubber_Duck - success does not depend on having some sheepskin (interesting its called that, don't ya think). I have found that I can apply for more and better paying jobs with it - but interesting to note that employers with degrees are more likely to want their workers to have them. But I don't want to get on that soapbox...

BTW - is this a private college or public (state) university? That might have a bearing on their policy.

 

[chemist308]

The permit is to carry one's unloaded pistol directly to and from the range (which is understandable).

In what way is that understandable?

 

[Yosemite Sam]

BTW - is this a private college or public (state) university? That might have a bearing on their policy.

Public State university. The state and the university both set the school weapons policy based on rule of law. The criminal justice fraternity runs the range (I think) and makes the range rules like no hollow point, 5 round mag limitation, no silhouette targets, etc. Part of me wonders it they're just college kids on power trips thinking that future police are superior to citizens as far as the 2nd Amendment.

In what way is that understandable?

The part about carrying directly from the car to the range instead of walking all over campus. The registration part I'm NOT ok with. It's just very clear that the range permit only gives permission to make a beeline to the range and back but is not a CCW permit for campus (I wish that would happen though).

Personally, HELL NO. I would find a different school, or better yet, just quit and get a job. I've never seen the real value in college to begin with. Of all the people unemployed and unemployable, the majority are college grads. I make twice what a school teacher makes, am probably better educated, and even make a little more than my mother(a doctor by the way). I run my own small business(I own and operate a commercial vehicle), and what I earn is entirely up to me. The harder I work, the more I make. Oh, did I mention I am a high school drop out? Yup, teachers said I would never amount to anything. Oh what a great country this used to be. Could be again as long as we keep a free market.

I agree with you on a lot of what you said. A lot of college these days *is* a bunch of irrelevant stuff. College isn't run for the honest-to-God pursuit of knowledge anymore, it's run like a business. Its mission is to sucker in enough people to pay a ton of tuition money and crank out graduates like a diploma mill, then bug graduates for the rest of their lives to give even more money.

Yeah, I got sick of a lot of the baloney requirements holding me back, which is why I've gone off and on for the past 7 years and instead worked a bunch of part time jobs and full time jobs. I'm getting back in it to graduate now since I'm a lot closer now.

I admire you for your business skills. I'm just now catching the entrepreneurship bug. It's a lot of long hours, and I pray something good comes out of it one of these days.

I agree that college or anything in life is a "you reap what you sow" type thing. I think too many kids these days go to college just to drink, party, and sleep around. Then get an easy degree and wonder why they can't get a job.

Would you register your Bible with the local PD in order to attend a local church?

Firearms, just like Bibles and newspapers are Constitutionaly protected items.

100% agreed. But then why do most states make schools gun free zones still?

Oh, and my Bible didn't come with a serial number, but it still goes BANG every time, and it's there when I need it. (And a firearm might save me from the 1st death, but my faith saves me from the 2nd death. Sorry, I'm preaching lol.)

 

[sturmgewehr667]

never

i'd also never report a fellow gun owner to the ATF

in nazi germany, would you register as jewish?

 

[Javelin]

I voted "no" but I guess I would not mind registering my NFA items as the ATF is obviously very aware that I have them so its really a moot point.

But the registration that the campus does is probably just a local one that is not on a database (at least the one on my old campus was a shoe tag registration).

 

[IndianaBoy]

1.). No way.

2.). Are you a student at Mizzou? I'd be happy to take you as a guest to check out the private range I shoot at. I live 5 miles North of Columbia. The membership fee is well worth it considering the quality of the facility.

250 yard rifle
Falling plate range
Movers
Barricade ranges
Skeet/trap
Etc...

 

[RudeMood]

Having dealt with this personally in a rather roudabout way i'd have to say Yes, within limitations. My best friend is an officer at the community college campuses in Texas and has talked to me about this. The registration and range rules are designed for and by paranoid non-shooters. It's just a roll of red tape that they want you to go through to make them feel safer and let them justify to themselves the fact that you are firing firearms on campus. Their rules may be stupid and, irony of ironies, a little education on the topic may alleviate some of their strictness on the range. The actual registration means jack little because it'll just be a second copy of the form you filled out to purchase the weapon in the first place, except the paperwork resides in a different location. My personal suggestion would be to just suck it up so you have the option of a range close enough, BUT only register a few firearms. Ideally these would be ones you purchased yourself at one point or another, and are the ones you take to the range the most. You could always drive farther for a more serious shoot. This is the compromise that I would make in your situation and would work for me, but i'm not you.

 

[Yosemite Sam]

1.). No way.

2.). Are you a student at Mizzou? I'd be happy to take you as a guest to check out the private range I shoot at. I live 5 miles North of Columbia. The membership fee is well worth it considering the quality of the facility.

250 yard rifle
Falling plate range
Movers
Barricade ranges
Skeet/trap
Etc...

I'm a little bit west of Mizzou, but not quite KC. That should almost give me away, but I don't wanna be too public on these forums since I'm pretty new here.

I've actually been to Target Masters twice and really like the facility.

Having dealt with this personally in a rather roudabout way i'd have to say Yes, within limitations. My best friend is an officer at the community college campuses in Texas and has talked to me about this. The registration and range rules are designed for and by paranoid non-shooters. It's just a roll of red tape that they want you to go through to make them feel safer and let them justify to themselves the fact that you are firing firearms on campus. Their rules may be stupid and, irony of ironies, a little education on the topic may alleviate some of their strictness on the range. The actual registration means jack little because it'll just be a second copy of the form you filled out to purchase the weapon in the first place, except the paperwork resides in a different location. My personal suggestion would be to just suck it up so you have the option of a range close enough, BUT only register a few firearms. Ideally these would be ones you purchased yourself at one point or another, and are the ones you take to the range the most. You could always drive farther for a more serious shoot. This is the compromise that I would make in your situation and would work for me, but i'm not you.

I voted "No" but if I had to compromise, I'd register my .22 pistol. Still thinking about it.

 

[TAB]

i'd also never report a fellow gun owner to the ATF

If what he was doing was a danger to him self of others I would in a heart beat.

 

[sturmgewehr667]

^ if he was a danger, that's a different situation. i was referring to if i found out that someone had an unregistered NFA weapon or something along those lines

 

[TAB]

So was I. I know many people in thier 40s that should be be able to buy guns. One of them has had 7 NDs in 1 year that I know about. I'm not sure rather I'd call on him or not, but I'd think damn hard about it

 

[zoom6zoom]

Hell no. And I believe it's illegal for them to ask for your social, too.

 

[akodo]

I too believe it is illegal for a government entity to require a SSN that isn't directly related to putting money into SS or taking it out, and illegal for a private entity to demand the same. They can ask, but cannot refuse based on it's absence.

Simply write "This form is in violation fo the law" on it and turn it in.

Or simply fill out the form with the parts you want, and leave the parts you disagree with blank, which would include SSN and serial number of firearm

 

[SoCalShooter]

Hell no.

 

[Prince Yamato]

Yeah, sure. The reason they want you to register is for security. If someone goes on a rampage while you are walking to and from the shooting range and you are somehow caught up in the middle of something and brought in (and you have a gun on you) they can look at their records and say, "oh, this guy was going to the indoor gun range. He goes there frequently." No, it's not 100% fool-proof, but it's not total infringement either. Relax.

Think of it this way, you can actually carry a gun and fire a loaded gun "on campus" now.

 

[Eightball]

No, I would not. Their draconian "rules" and BS policies would more than answer the question for me. I'm not handing out sensitive personal information to campus weenies on a power trip because they wear a shirt that says "SECURITY" on it, and I'm even less keen on providing that info to a wannabe police force--they're the LAST people who would need to know anything about me or my firearms, as they'd be the FIRST people to turn over that info, IMO.

 

[alaskanativeson]

It depends on the situation. If I wanted access to a close range and it was a real imposition to get out of town I might register the one gun I'd use at that range. On the other hand, the reality of it is that I wouldn't live somewhere like that. I value my freedom and independence too much. The first college I attended was a private college that had a very strict honor code. A single student had to live on campus or in approved off-campus apartments. One of the regulations was that no firearms were allowed. I was young and rebellious (as opposed to being middle-aged and rebellious now) and I kept a .22 rifle and revolver in my apartment.

Perhaps my previous statements were a bit callous. I apologize. However, I do not retract my opinion. I just have some problems with the way our education system doesn't work effectively. After all, where do you think antis learn their behaviors?

As a teacher I didn't have a problem with your comments. From the sounds of it, I'd love to have a classroom full of students like you, I might actually be able to teach something worthwhile. Rest assured, the constant stream of mindless drivel that kids get from many teachers these days doesn't enter into my classroom. I'm there to teach you, not indoctrinate you.

 

[Ohio Gun Guy]

Registration is the first step to Confiscation!

 

[JImbothefiveth]

I think I would in this case. That said, you just have to register the guns you're going to use, right?

 

[AKCOP]

No, No, No and NO.......

 

[JImbothefiveth]

make twice what a school teacher makes, am probably better educated, and even make a little more than my mother(a doctor by the way). I run my own small business(I own and operate a commercial vehicle), and what I earn is entirely up to me. The harder I work, the more I make.

Does that mean you're a truck driver? (Slightly off-topic but if I end up unemployed, I need alternatives)