You are (re)called to volunteer for active duty. YES/NO to GO?

In a volunteer recall, would you serve in any capacity, armed force, wherever sent???

  • YES !! -

    Votes: 100 69.9%
  • NO !! -

    Votes: 15 10.5%
  • Possibly - if...

    Votes: 24 16.8%
  • Other -

    Votes: 4 2.8%
  • No comment -

    Votes: 5 3.5%

  • Total voters
    143
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They better hurry up and do it.

Because as soon as my retirement orders go into effect, the DoD is gonna have one heck of a time finding me. I've given them close to 20 years so far, and I'm deploying one more time in the next few weeks. So I'll be out of pocket once they hand me my shadow box and certificate. ;)

I could be hired as a consultant afterwards, though. :D
 
Guess it's...

time for my official vote since I forgot it during composition.

I say Thank You all for your votes, your replies, and for your service, past, present, and possibly future.

Do we have a nucleus for a volunteer THR Brigade? :D

-Andy
 
Don't have much choice... I'm in the active conscript reserve or well regulated militia, if you will, for another couple of years, after that in home area defense roles until I turn 60. My knees couldn't take my currently assigned role anymore (AT squad leader / platoon 2nd leader, approx. Sergeant 1st class in international terms) since that would include schlepping a TOW launcher in the woods, either on skis or on foot, depending of the time of year... :D yes, it's done like that here! Stripped in its main components, strapped to rucksack frames... :what:

So, if called upon, I'd have to submit a doc's certificate and will probably be assigned an MP squad instead. But I'm going, no question. The only scenario that would mobilize our militia would be a clear and present danger on our very borders, which inherently leaves no room for choice :mad: .
 
Bottom line is that everyone should still be proficient with a rifle!
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I may not be in good health anymore, but if I was over there, any diaper-head within about 800-900 yards of my Remington .300 Mag Sendero would stand a real good chance of getting his 72 virgins within a few seconds.

I have no qualms at all about helping Mohammedans meet allah in person!
 
Not so much

Never having been in the .mil and furthermore, being somebody who has problems with authority in both the political thought spectrum and in the hard world that I live in now, I would have to decline.

I'm not convinced we are living in the time of the next crusade either.

And really, what kind of contribution can one individual make as our current management (using the word leadership or administration is way to nice) attempts to flush everything down the toilet; and furthermore, for what?

But hey, if you folks want to go, knock yourselves out.

TR
 
I'm proud of all you old farts with all your medical problems. I'm still a young buck, at 48, but you guys (okay, maybe "us guys") are the reason there ain't nobody planning to invade the USA. The gummint may not want us for overseas duty, but I'd hate to be in an enemy infantry batallion trying to take over a town in, say, Nebraska, with all the old farts dug in and motivated. Those bad backs and weak knees are suddenly going to feel 30 years younger.
 
Funny that this thread should pop up now, as I had this very conversation with a buddy while fishing this past week. (Got skunked by the way)

Like others here, there are times that I see the situation in Iraq and feel somewhat frustrated at not being able to help. Though we no longer serve, the guys currently combating the Jihadists in Iraq are OUR BROTHERS IN ARMS. RLI and Marine Corps brainwashing must have really stuck because I for one still feel the need to be there to cover their back.

For me, living in a hole and sleeping in a ditch now would result in new definitions for the terms aches and pains. Eating C-Rats or MRE's for months on end holds no appeal whatsoever. Unlike Detachment Charlie (no flame intended - to each their own) I didn't particularly enjoy getting my parts perforated, nor any prior or subsequent attempts to do so. However, I'd step up and do the job again if needed. Wouldn't even need Gov't transportation as I'm pretty sure that the impact from my wife's foot on my backside would place me on a trajectory with a point of impact somewhere near Iraq.

Why would I saddle up again? Pretty simple actually. When I enlisted I took a solemn oath "to support and defend....against all enemies foreign and domestic." Now, I don't know about you all, but I don't remember anybody with the authority to do so relieving me of that oath and I certainly never rescinded. As far as I'm concerned I'm still morally bound by it. If the need for my service is real and legitimate, I'm there. Call it hokey if you like, it's just a part of the ethics which I choose to live my life by, and by the posts here it seems that others feel likewise.

As so-called "old farts" we may not be able or willing to kick in doors all day long or conduct frontal assaults or envelopment's, but age and experience has its benefits, namely patience and absolutely no delusions about war, death and killing. A very large force (Brigade or larger) of very patient, methodical, remorseless "old fart" sniper teams would be absolutely devastating to Jihadist morale and exceptionally deadly for any Jihadist trying to move through buildings, streets or the countryside. Anybody seen with a Hezbola head-diaper on and they get a 180gr boat-tail hat pin!! Talk about varmint huntin' nirvana!!!!!

As RWK correctly pointed out, while we may not view this as a religious war the other side absolutely does. Consequently, it seems that we are being drawn into one whopper of a problem that is and will be multi-generational and we're going to have to deal with it decisively or deal with it indefinitely.
Example:
(1)You kill every Jihadist terrorist you can find, but a few will always manage to survive.
(2) The sons of the Jihadist terrorists that you killed in round one grow up seeking revenge as their ideology allows/encourages/mandates.
(3) The survivors of the first kill cycle teach/encourage/organize/direct the new crop of young Jihadist terrorists.
(4) The second kill cycle starts and you kill every Jihadist terrorist you can find, but a few will manage to survive.
(5) The cycle continues ad infinitum.

Under their ideology they win if:
1- They kill us, or
2 - We kill them (martyrdom, 75 virgins, and all that jazz).

Kind of hard to figure out how to defeat that ideology but until we can figure out a way to break or change their ideology I'll stick with "losing" via option #2.
 
LD...

A great set of words, sir.

Well, folks, some reality is setting in, having read each and every reply... let me try to write properly:

Most of us admit our shortcomings - physical mainly - yet are willing to give credence to what might be "The Last Hurrah". Reality, probably, is that we'd not be called/recalled unless there were a dire need and if that be there would probably be a draft first of younger folks - particularly as the multi-generational aspect rises as a truth.

We here have seen and read that a good percentage of responders say "Yes" with "Possibly" second (all thus far, at least). And we are a microcosm of the national population (who haven't read this thread). I'd say that there are many - more or less in our physical state(s) who would muster.

So - if the manpower (ladies, too) is there, and we won't really expect a call, then what can we do and why should we do it?

After 9/11, in looking for a "place", I learned that there was a congressionally charted program known as the State Defense Force (SDF). This was to provide services within the state such as the National Guard does. When a state's Guard is called to Federal service, the SDF's a purely volunteer effort organized primarily as the Army method - Battalions, Companies, and such take over the security for Guard facilities and equipment. They also participate in natural disaster functions. The state's Governor is the SDF's CinC, and usually headed by an appointed General Officer of some rank. Since I'm in Virginia, I find that older former military are usually welcome, though my 71 precludes my volunteering.

This is one area those interested might serve in some way. A Google search on the string "State Defense Force" (no quotes), will show many state SDF hits - several pages, actually.

Soon after 9/11 - and after learning of the SDF world I wrote an "anti" piece in response to a former Marine officer who in a local Op-Ed recommended "A Sixth Armed Service". My issue was that the Unorganized Militia was already the legal entity to handle such chores as facilities security (airports, marine terminals, power plants, water works, schools, etc.) I guess much of that thinking in late '01 was - more or less - taken over by the Dept of Homeland Defense. (I didn't offer my piece to the paper as time and events were changing as I wrote, so to speak.)

I am very concerned that we - with the many millions going to first responders (and in VA money has been received) - aren't prepared for the general mayhem that chemical/bio/bomb attacks would bring. I see no way to stop - 100% - any and all efforts by these really BG's to cause their mischief. It may very well be that the state/local effort is strong; I just don't see "people" taking the danger seriously, even with the lastest news from Jordan where a group in possession of some nasty chems were planning something there against embassies, etc. that could have meant 20,000 deaths. And gas is one thing, bio is another - a few drops of "X" in a reservoir could create something worse.

Well, I digress. We could support the SDF's in some way... we could ask our first responders where we could serve, but I think most of those levels are at work. Where I see no work is in the neighborhoods. I ventured to my homeowner assocation president eight months ago a "neighborhood security" concept that goes well beyond the so-called Neighborhood Watch program that is the norm in many communities. I guess the assoc "leaders" are more involved with the pool, the park; with recruiting Architectural Committee members to prowl the area for infractions, the fees - and trying to find A neighborhood Watch captain who'd serve more than 30 days. No joy in Mudville... yet!

But I do believe the neighborhood security carried across the city would be a useful first-first responder more eyes, ears and feet. Still working on it.

Enough of me.

-Andy
 
71 is too old for anything but immediate defense of hearth and home. I know they had volunteer forces during the WW2 era that did things like guarding docks, but thats the only realistic role you could expect to fill until they make John Ringos rejuvenation tanks a reality somewhere down the road:)
 
My knees couldn't take my currently assigned role anymore (AT squad leader / platoon 2nd leader, approx. Sergeant 1st class in international terms) since that would include schlepping a TOW launcher in the woods, either on skis or on foot, depending of the time of year... yes, it's done like that here!
I am TOW myself, and if you are going to a dismounted position, you must be ready to die in place. Not able to shoot and scoot, and it wont be but one or two smoke plumes in the air before they zero in on you. BTW, they eliminated 11H as a separate MOS , so we are all 11Bs now...even more reason to baby those bad knees.......
 
I was TOW (11B with a P qualifier, which caused some confusion with the Airborne types), and I've always thought the smoke plume was overstated. Yes, it's there, but it's nowhere NEAR as obvious as the yellow smokes we used to simulate it.


Of course, I've never had anybody shooting back. :what:



I'd use the time to learn to play the bagpipes so I could serenade the PoWs.

OT, but I've gotta tell the story. Had a co-worker who lived on the border of a seriously bad area of L.A. His name was McPherson. One day the guy across the street brought his big stereo speakers out to the front porch and cranked up some rap crap to full volume. (There I go being redundant again.) Mr. M brought his little bookshelf speakers out - the biggest he had, all of 6 inches tall. He cranked up the bagpipe music to full volume.

After a minute or so the rap stopped and the speakers went back in the house.

:D
 
If I was ASKED to go back, I would do so under certain conditions. If the want me so bad in this hypothetical, they can give a little. :D

Since even my Inactive Reserve commitment has expired, I'm 100% civilian now. I would go back on the conditions that I be restored to my prior rank and branch... I'm NOT going to go back voluntarily if I have to take orders from a larger group of retards than I did when I got out. And I would only go back voluntarily for a real-world deployment; I'm not interested in garrison jerking around, which is the big reason I left in the first place. There is only so much grabasstic bureaucratic nonsense a human can stand. For me, that was just under 6 years.

Not many "no's," but then again it is pretty easy to be macho on the internet. ;)
 
I imagine Halliburton has some fresh openings for truck drivers.

I'm 51 yrs., 6' 2" and 175, don't smoke and still out of shape. I'll need a thorough physical and about six months to get into shape.
My vision isn't perfect, but it is better than it was in October,1972, when it was good enough for my draft board to classify me 1A.

Does the army issue reading glasses? :rolleyes:
 
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