Sorry berettaprof... you are mostly right, but I'm gonna add that in 2006 we were midway through Bush, Jr's second term. By 2009 the Obama effect on guns and ammo was in full swing and prices were up to about $12/ brick ON SALE. Working in a big gun shop from 2010 to present I saw the .22LR and pistol ammo surge when Obama was re-elected then again this Great .22LR Depression has been going on since Jan 2013 (following Sandy Hook). B/w the last two game changing events "normal pricing" floated from $15.99 up to $20. I refuse to purchase any brick priced over $25 and have had no trouble staying stocked up.And now maybe you're wondering why I've got a scanned receipt from 2006?
What can I say? I'm a pack rat. I keep receipts that were for gun purchases, and a few years back, when I realized they were fading, I scanned them. Sometimes they had other purchases on them.
...twenty years or thirty years from now there will be a lot of 2012-2015 production era 22LR available at estate auctions
The scalpers are hanging on by the skin of their teeth - they know the bottom is about to fall out, but they're hoping some panic will hit so they can unload what they're sitting on.
I bought a brick of it last year, haven't shot any yet. From what reviews I find online, it can be hit or miss .22 ammo, no pun intended.ETA: Does anyone have any experience with the Armscor?
Heres a case of 5k at 419.99.
http://www.ammofast.com/products/armscor-precision-22lr-copper-coated-hv-hp-36-gr-5000-round-case
Caliber: .22LR HV
Grain Weight: 36
Bullet Type: JHP
Muzzle Velocity: 1260 fps
Muzzle Energy: 127 ft/lbs
Sure, buy online. I guess your area does not have a problem with packages being stolen off of your front porch. FedEx can hold at a distribution center. I am not sure if FedEx can ship ammo though. I buy my ammo at Academy and Walmart for the most part.I've never bought ammo online before, but have been thinking maybe I should if that's the only way to get certain types, and maybe the best prices on much of it. Since .22LR is still absent from store shelves around me in a city of 65,000 people, I thought I'd give the online world a try. Here's what I found. A 50 count box going for $10, even for generics stuff like American Eagle. Sure, there's one for $8, but I remember only a year or so ago I could get a brick of 500 for $10 before it (gasp!) doubled to $20. Now it's $100. http://www.bulkammo.com/rimfire/bulk-.22-lr-ammo?p=1
If this is how it is and how it's going to be for .22LR, I'd be willing to sell the 1,000 rounds I currently have for the price I bought my rifle for.
Does anyone see the situation getting better? Worse? Having a .22 used to mean cheap, fun shooting. But at these prices, the "cheap" part just isn't there anymore. Makes me wonder if people will see much of a reason to buy a .22 firearm anymore.
On a related note, I keep waiting for the other foot to drop. The collapse of demand for 22LR firearms. IMHO, you'd have to be a fool, or a fanatic, (or both) to even consider buying anything in 22LR. If yo owned one prior to this, yo're stuck with it, sort of. But why buy anymore?
As someone suggested, 9mm is the net best thing. (I tend to think 38 special, but you get the idea.) I'm surprised we haven't heard of 9mm/38 guns disappearing off shelves and increased demand for those calibers.
I'm surprised we haven't seen 22LR firearms for sale online at fire sale prices.
I don't even bother with 22LR ammo anymore, and I won't buy anymore guns in that caliber. When my ammo runs out, the guns go on Craigslist. Done. In my view, buying/owning a 22LR gun is like buying a junk bond.
Why would someone buy a 22LR firearm when, for the cost of a modest supply of ammo, say 5-6 bricks (1-2 yrs' worth perhaps) one can pick up a small caliber centerfire firearm and have an accessible supply of ammo? Or better yet, for the cost of 3-4 bricks, one can buy a quality air rifle and a zillion pellets.
It amazes me how little gun owners understand of economics.
I believe that for the .22 LR market, what we are currently going through is the new normal; if you see good quality .22 for a good price, buy it because if you don't, someone else will.I think what we're witnessing is a permanent revision of the 22LR market. To answer a question once posed the great Merle Haggard, yes, the good times really are over for good.
While the prospect of "2012-2015 production 22LR" being dumped at estate sales is valid, and I'm sure we'll see some of that...30 plus years from now, I think you'll see it gobbled up by the same "hoarder" mentality that permeates the culture today. That mentality is not going to just go away. So it's a moot point.
The prospect of a "gun safe" administration (if such a thing even exists) in the very near future is real. (Of course, the opposite is also true.) However, someone posted the comment about what people will feel is a "safe level." Everyone, myself included, has modified their firearm and related shopping habits. (Indeed, ALL my shopping habits.) Even with the coming of a "gun safe" administration, people will remember and will believe that they are only one election cycle away from everything going back to "the way it was." They aren't going to stop buying ammo just because some guy with an "R" after his name is in office. (In fact, I predict that the gun industry will ride this cycle now, driven by consumer paranoia, every time a "D" gets into office.-This is the new normal.)
Lastly, the shooting public has proven, beyond all doubt, that we're stupid enough to pay scalper prices for 22LR (and other) ammo. Simple laws of economics state that when prices are too high, you stop buying. We didn't stop. The manufacturers know this. If, as some hope, the craze dies down and prices per round plummet...all that is needed is a reduction in production rates to keep the prices up. (Ammo is a commodity, same as oil. Price per barrel/per round goes down, stop producing, watch price rise.)
So, for any number or related and unrelated reasons, you can completely forget about ever seeing affordable 22LR ammo again. And we did it to ourselves.
What's sad is that all the cry babies in this thread will not come back to read, learn, nor challenge your truth. They don't actually try to acquire the product that they complain about not having.Bi Mart has .22 for .055 a round.
Still 100 round limit per day but 3 of us shopping I can get what I need.
They sell out of multi round boxes pretty fast but there is still .22 available.
Bi Mart has .22 for .055 a round.
Still 100 round limit per day but 3 of us shopping I can get what I need.
They sell out of multi round boxes pretty fast but there is still .22 available.
The reason people will still buy into .22 is because there will be people who share your opinion and sell their .22 guns and not bother anymore. As people exit the .22 market, the supply will go up and the prices will recede.On a related note, I keep waiting for the other foot to drop. The collapse of demand for 22LR firearms. IMHO, you'd have to be a fool, or a fanatic, (or both) to even consider buying anything in 22LR. If yo owned one prior to this, yo're stuck with it, sort of. But why buy anymore?
As someone suggested, 9mm is the net best thing. (I tend to think 38 special, but you get the idea.) I'm surprised we haven't heard of 9mm/38 guns disappearing off shelves and increased demand for those calibers.
I'm surprised we haven't seen 22LR firearms for sale online at fire sale prices.
I don't even bother with 22LR ammo anymore, and I won't buy anymore guns in that caliber. When my ammo runs out, the guns go on Craigslist. Done. In my view, buying/owning a 22LR gun is like buying a junk bond.
Why would someone buy a 22LR firearm when, for the cost of a modest supply of ammo, say 5-6 bricks (1-2 yrs' worth perhaps) one can pick up a small caliber centerfire firearm and have an accessible supply of ammo? Or better yet, for the cost of 3-4 bricks, one can buy a quality air rifle and a zillion pellets.
It amazes me how little gun owners understand of economics.
A guy at work who has about 1/2 Million rounds in his basement explained it to me this way...."When the government collapses .22LR will be like currency"...On a related note, I keep waiting for the other foot to drop. The collapse of demand for 22LR firearms. IMHO, you'd have to be a fool, or a fanatic, (or both) to even consider buying anything in 22LR. If yo owned one prior to this, yo're stuck with it, sort of. But why buy anymore?
As someone suggested, 9mm is the net best thing. (I tend to think 38 special, but you get the idea.) I'm surprised we haven't heard of 9mm/38 guns disappearing off shelves and increased demand for those calibers.
I'm surprised we haven't seen 22LR firearms for sale online at fire sale prices.
I don't even bother with 22LR ammo anymore, and I won't buy anymore guns in that caliber. When my ammo runs out, the guns go on Craigslist. Done. In my view, buying/owning a 22LR gun is like buying a junk bond.
Why would someone buy a 22LR firearm when, for the cost of a modest supply of ammo, say 5-6 bricks (1-2 yrs' worth perhaps) one can pick up a small caliber centerfire firearm and have an accessible supply of ammo? Or better yet, for the cost of 3-4 bricks, one can buy a quality air rifle and a zillion pellets.
It amazes me how little gun owners understand of economics.
On a related note, I keep waiting for the other foot to drop. The collapse of demand for 22LR firearms. IMHO, you'd have to be a fool, or a fanatic, (or both) to even consider buying anything in 22LR. If yo owned one prior to this, yo're stuck with it, sort of. But why buy anymore?
It amazes me how little gun owners understand of economics.