BlueHeelerFl
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When there was cheap surplus ammo and cheap surplus rifles it was very popular.
Nowadays the AR is a superior platform.
Nowadays the AR is a superior platform.
Will .30 Carbine drop a deer? Effectively, or would that be considered inhumane? I'm not going to go try it - just curious as that is a common benchmark for rifle effectiveness.
I like the idea of a 5 or 5.5 lb carbine, small and handy. As for cartridge, 9 mm seems low power for a rifle. The 10mm and 357 Sig are just as expensive as 223 it seems. Is that why AR(10mm) are not a thing? Hopefully, the WWSD 2020 project put forth by InRangeTV will generate interest in making ARs lighter. The first iteration will be expensive, but maybe more companies will join in, competition will bring the price down.
Currently, the Ruger PCC is 6.8 lbs. The Keltec Sub 2000 is just ugly.
Except the weight. My bare bones 4595TS weighs in at over 7lbs loaded. I Imagine the 1095TS is about the same. Good guns though.I have a 10mm AR, it's pretty cool really.
Although I think that other than the 30carbine and internal box magazine parts everything else is covered by a 10mm Hi Point Carbine
Except the weight. My bare bones 4595TS weighs in at over 7lbs loaded. I Imagine the 1095TS is about the same. Good guns though.
I just checked their website: the 995TS weighs in at 6.25 lb unloaded, and the 4595TS and 1095TS at 7 lb unloaded. They aren’t light for what they are because they function with a blowback-only action. Like I said though, they are quite good guns, just heavy.Wow, the new stock adds a ton then. I think my 995 weighs just over 5 lbs
I agree with this. A lot of people's love for the 30 carbine is more for the platform it's in.. The problem seems to be that the M1 Carbine and the .30 carbine are inextricably tied together, and for all intents and purposes synonymous with each other. That keeps the M1 carbine (even new production) from being developed further to use more effective rounds;
Not to derail. Does the 10mm function with 40S&W like some of the handguns? I had forgotten about those things.I have a 10mm AR, it's pretty cool really.
Although I think that other than the 30carbine and internal box magazine parts everything else is covered by a 10mm Hi Point Carbine
I agree with this. A lot of people's love for the 30 carbine is more for the platform it's in.
I would love an m1 scaled to 9mm or 40 S&w. Or go the other way and make it 300BO.
The M1 carbine looks cool.
Not to derail. Does the 10mm function with 40S&W like some of the handguns? I had forgotten about those things.
I just checked their website: the 995TS weighs in at 6.25 lb unloaded, and the 4595TS and 1095TS at 7 lb unloaded. They aren’t light for what they are because they function with a blowback-only action. Like I said though, they are quite good guns, just heavy.
I did not suggest SKS.LiveLife ... suggest an SKS