Chasing Unicorns

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There's a discussion on another forum about who still carries a Glock 26. The implication of the question is that with the recent advancements in microcompact yet STANDARD capacity carry guns the Glock 26 is outdated and really not worthy of consideration as a carry gun.

Before I say anything else this discussion isn't specifically about the Glock 26. It's about the need to have the latest, greatest new carry gun and the idea that the latest, greatest new carry gun is going to solve all my problems and it will be the perfect carry gun.

I did that for a long time and after a while I noticed that I was spending a lot of money getting tooled up for the next new perfect carry gun.

At some point I made a decision to stop "Chasing Unicorns" .

The gun I have now (which was the latest, greatest, whiz bang new thing at one point) is adequate. I have an ample supply of magazines for it and as many holsters as I will ever need.

I don't see a reason (and I can't afford to) keep reinventing the wheel. So I made a conscious decision, I'm done buying guns. I don't even window shop anymore.

Maybe we can get a good discussion out of this
 
I feel your pain ... been there, done that. Except I call it "chasing unicorn poop" ... like soft serve swirl rainbows multi flavored ice cream.

Here's the rule.

Find what you like that you can hit-with and makes the biggest exit hole possible. Then practice practice practice and practice some more. Once your are totally confident with it take a deep breath and then practice some more. Refine your mechanics and fine tune your game then practice some more.

Life is simple it's just not easy. Chasing unicorns is .... well, you're 100% correct Night Rider. Good thread, excellent point.

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I like buying and trying new guns. Auto, revolver, centerfire or rim. I just like getting new things to shoot.

I am not looking for the latest and greatest; I’m just looking for guns that can be fun on the range, useful in the field or effective in the home. If they’re not “all that” I am not bummed, I still have learned something and gained a new toy to play with :).

If I find it better for carry/SD than what I currently use, well thats just icing on the cake. ;)

Life is too short to chase Unicorn rainbow farts, hunt leprechaun gold or try to find the ultimate-in-all-situations carry piece. Enjoy the experiences you create for yourself as you try new stuff and journey onward :thumbup:.

Stay safe.
 
The implication of the question is that with the recent advancements in microcompact yet STANDARD capacity carry guns the Glock 26 is outdated and really not worthy of consideration as a carry gun.

Not every day that you hear Glock and "outdated" in the same sentence.

It's always been fat for a gun it's size, I am not sure if that's why someone would consider it old comparing it to much thinner guns of today? Course a P365 or Hellcat cannot share mags with their respective companies full size offerings like the lil glock can.
 
I buy and sell quite often looking for the ones I like best. You can tell how much I like them by how long I have had them.

I have had my Browning BPS 20 ga for a few decades now and my Smith J frames for over a decade each. Oddly, they are also the long gun I shoot the most and the handguns I carry the most.

Nearly everything else has been less than 5 years.

It seems to be the nature of firearms enthusiasts to want the next new thing. In my case, it is just the next thing because I generally despise anything less than at least 5 years old but more like 20 or 30.

Pertaining to the example in the OP, these days, there is a lot to be said for just using what you have whether it is for self defense, hunting, or target shooting. Some disciplines require different and more specialized equipment and that is fine, if that is a direction you want to go, to buy the latest and greatest for that category of shooting.

I would definitely think that a Glock 26/27 is still relevant in this micro 9 world. However, for various reasons, someone may not want to carry a 9mm. I don’t see too many micro 40s, or micro 45s, or micro 5.7x28s (though that would be interesting). AMT backups were probably the last of those anyway.

I’m not getting into any of the most vaunted virtues of the micro 9s. I’m well aware of them but I don’t care about them for the sake of the OPs discussion. Other classes of pistols have desirable characteristics too.

Myself, I am still on the lookout for a smaller auto for carry. A Hellcat or 365 would have to fall in my lap pretty authoritatively for me to pay closer attention to it so a pistol like that is not fully out of the question. I would like to try out a G30 and G36 or Sig 239.
 
you definitely need to get something chambered in the new 30 Super Carry .. more rounds and just as powerful as 9mm in a smaller package.
 
Glock 26 and Sig 365 are both good choices if one is under a 10 round limit. (Fortunately, I'm not under a 10 round limit)
And either pistol has double the capacity of a snub.

If someone is stuck with a dinosaur (snub / PPK) they might try a "unicorn" (365 / Hellcat).
 
I think we've all noticed the interesting trend with concealed carry pistols. Things got really small and lightweight, but then they started getting bigger again. The P365 is a great example. Lots of people jumped on that bandwagon, and then jumped right over to the P365XL when it became available. Perhaps next, we'll see a P365HD (heavy duty), which will just be a regular compact sized pistol.

I can see plenty of reasons for carry pistol preferences to evolve over time. But chasing small/lighter/more compact, or whatever the gun rags say is the great new thing, seems counter-productive to the goal of self defense.
 
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The exact reason I still carry my J frame S&W as my primary CCW. To each his own, I have many guns but I have carried J Frame as a Primary off duty and now retired as well as a back up gun to my Duty Weapon. I trust it, the manual of arms is second nature. I shoot them well and have seen up close and personal how it performs ballistically when it counts.

I still buy guns frequently but rarely a carry piece, range guns and collectibles are my interest. I have sorted out my carry needs a long time ago. I have yet to read or see any justification to change.
 
I think we've all noticed the interesting trend with concealed carry pistols. Things got really small and lightweight, but then they started getting bigger again. The P365 is a great example. Lots of people jumped on that bandwagon, and then jumped right over to the P365XL when it became available. Perhaps next, we'll see a P365HD (heavy duty), which will just be a regular compact sized pistol.

I can see plenty of reasons for carry pistol preferences to evolve over time. But chasing small/lighter/move compact, or whatever the gun rags say is the great new thing, seems counter-productive to the goal of self defense.
Kinda like cars/trucks/suv’s in the US. They start out sporty and compact (1964 1/2 Mustang, Toyota Hilux pickup, Nissan Pathfinder, etc .) then they pack on pounds and inches as the years roll by. (Sadly, as did I :(.)

I guess folks are trying to find that elusive perfect combo of capacity, portability and shootability, and gunmakers are in the business to sell new products. So, as long as people keep buying their guns they will keep tweaking designs to fit the wants of the public. :)

Stay safe.
 
From about 1983 to about 1997, I was very much engaged in the constant pursuit of the latest/greatest compact carry guns. The Detonics Combat Master was my first, and, the Kahr K9 was my final experiment, in that area. Other examples include the HK P7 and S&W Model 3913. Some time in 1997, I re-bought a weapon that I had briefly tried, previously, the Ruger SP101. The difference, the second time around, with the SP101, is that I had learned to really pay attention to holding HIGH on the grip, greatly improving controllability, and comfort. To this day, my default small handgun is an SP101; I now have more than just a few. (Differing barrel lengths, hammer configurations, and chamberings.)

I did acquire more compact pistols, after 1997, when there was a reason to do so. In 2002, when I transitioned to Glock G22 duty pistols, I did buy a G27, to try as a “back-up” gun, but it failed to put my SP101 out of business, in that category, and I soon sold the G27 to a colleague. I then acquired a pre-owned G29, to try as a personal-time carry gun. I liked it well enough, but those early larger-framed Glocks were just a bit too large for me, and I never really liked the gripping area of any Gen3 Glocks, and, was not happy with my accuracy potential with Glocks, so, when I transitioned to a SIG P229R DAK duty pistol, in 2004, all of my Glocks soon went away. (I was able to choose from among several duty pistol choices, and switched to SIG when I learned about the optional slimmer trigger, which my less-than-long index fingers could reach, for a proper placement on the face of the trigger.)

I never sought to acquire a more-compact SIG than the P229. It is not that the P229 is a small pistol, as the grip is large-volume, and, when a magazine is in place, it is fully as tall as its larger cousins, the P226 and P220. If I needed a more-compact handgun that the P229, I carried my SP101 snub-guns.

As I reached my fifties, the muzzle flip of the .40 S&W, fired from the P229, started to really aggravate my arthritis. I learned that my chief was considering authorizing the 9mm versions of our .40 duty pistols, for uniformed field field/street duty. I bought a pre-owned Gen3 G17, and was gratified to learn that it was an “orthopedic” pistol, that did not aggravate my gimpy thumb/hand/wrist. Then, I noticed that some investigative personnel were already authorized to use the Glock G19 as a duty pistol. I started looking for openings in the investigative divisions, and bought a pair of Gen4 G19 pistols. In 2015, the chief finally re-wrote the duty pistol policy, and I was able to carry a G17, for street duty. I knew that Gen4 fit my hands better, so, I bought a Gen4 G17, and soon added a Gen4 G26, to be my ankle holster gun.

I still believe that the Glock G26 is a perfectly useful “Compact Nine,” or “Sub-Compact Nine,” depending upon how one draws the categories/definitions. In the twilight of my LEO-ing career, I sold my G26 ankle gun, to a younger colleague, to be his back-up pistol, but, I eventually “replaced” it, as I realized that even though all compact Nines are now too painful to shoot right-handed, they have a role to play as lefty back-up guns. (My left hand is aging much better than my right.)

My G19 pistols were traded-away, in 2020, after I had not fired them since 2017, due to their aggravation of my arthritis, and, because I simply saw no more need for an intermediate-sized Glock, between the G26, and those with full-sized grips. I never noticed any difference in conceal-ability, between the G19 and G17, because it was always the outside rear edge of the slide that “printed,” not the grip, and I could never shoot a G19 as accurately as I could a G17. I can either “dress around” a G17, or other full-sized handgun, or carry a “baby” Glock, or short-barreled revolvers.

After I retired, I re-bought an S&W Model 3913, though this time it was the TSW version. I followed this my adding some more well-preserved samples in this model series. I had really liked my original 3913, and had regretted letting it go, as I had moved on to the next new latest/greatest thing, in the early Nineties. The panic-demic interrupted my opportunities to easily vet any new auto-loading carry guns, and, thus far, my now-classic Third Generation S&W auto pistols remains in “collectible-only” status.

I still add the occasional revolver, too, of course, pre-keyhole S&W, and Ruger, mostly pre-owned, some of which become carry guns, and some of which are just in the “nice-to-have” category.

So, yes, a Glock G26, a G17, or an Eighties-/Nineties-era-tech revolver, will do, just fine, for me, thanks. I’ll tote the occasional 1911, too.

To be clear, there is nothing wrong with buying, and using, a new pistol. It helps the economy, and helps keep folks employed. The point is that that chasing unicorns is not my thing, so, if I were to drive to my nearest favored pistol emporium, and buy a new pistol, today, it would probably be a G26, G45, or G17, because multiple spares are good to have, and because I do not own a G45, plus, because I think it would be fun to do a shoot-off with three generations of the G26, and I do not yet have a Gen5 G26. ;)
 
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I went through that faze for a few years after we got ccw in my state. started out with full size went all the way down to a subcompact 380 decided it wasn't enough gun so settled on a compact 9mm. 7rounds in the gun and 1 spare mag.
 
I came to that years ago. I'm content with my daily carry gun, a bulky little g30. Yeah, there are smaller guns in more modern chamberings but if I want 10 rds of 45 acp there's nothing I've found that's better . been carrying this one since 2012, no complaints .

Me too. FIB power! lol

I do also carry a G19 sometimes, because I like that too.

And sometimes a Model 64 snubby that was my Grandfather's BUG when he was a LEO. And if I'm with my old lady, since she carries a 442 so we have ammo compatibility.


I rented a G26 once, it was just a tad to small for me to be really consistent for my likes.

I only "chased" one other CC gun, an LC9. Wished I had rented that before I bought one, but hindsight is 20/20.
 
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After I retired, I re-bought an S&W Model 3913, though this time it was the TSW version. I followed this my adding some more well-preserved samples in this model series. I had really liked my original 3913, and had regretted letting it go, as I had moved on to the next new latest/greatest thing, in the early Nineties. The panic-demic interrupted my opportunities to easily vet any new auto-loading carry guns, and, thus far, my now-classic Third Generation S&W auto pistols remains in “collectible-only” status. ...

I also spent a lot of my OT money adding to my gun safe. I was always a gun/shooting enthusiast, so it wasn't a big step. What helped, though, was after I'd been a firearms instructor for a while and became interested in also being an armorer, and started attending armorer classes for different brands of guns. Being able to buy guns at an armorer discount was an attraction, and a couple of the companies shipped directly from their factories to the Cop shop FFL dealer.

A late 90's vintage 3913, followed by a CS9 and then a late production 3913TSW (bought for an embarrassing great deal as a former duty weapon when the 3rd gen's were replaced with plastic around 2016), became some of my personal favorites over time. I still shoot them, though, being a 3rd gen armorer and being able to make sure they're maintained in optimal condition. That 3913 has racked up a respectable number of rounds since it arrived in '98.

Sure, I have a G26, and it's a fine subcompact-ish double stack 9. My favorite of the entire Glock line up. I had a second one, when the whim came along to pick up one of those awful-but-oddly-interesting slime green G26's at a LE discount, and some extra money was burning a hole in my pocket. I later sold it to another instructor/armorer who wanted a range gun with which to fiddle. My G26 and a G27 remain my only Glocks, and they're well used.

That CS9 is probably my favorite of the smallish 9's in my off-duty - and now retirement - collection. A 3"; 7+1 subcompact that shoots every bit as well as it's larger sibling, the 3913.
 
Me too. FIB power! lol

I do also carry a G19 sometimes, because I like that too.

And sometimes a Model 64 snubby that was my Grandfather's BUG when he was a LEO. And if I'm with my old lady, since she carries a 442 so we have ammo compatibility.


I rented a G26 once, it was just a tad to small for me to be really consistent for my likes.

I only "chased" one other CC gun, an LC9. Wished I had rented that before I bought one, but hindsight is 20/20.
I'm not sure FIB stands for the same thing it means to me . but maybe :rofl:
 
I’ve played the better mousetrap game a time or two and typically always end back up with a Glock 19.

But the newest “unicorn” I’m rocking is a 365 XL with Wilson grip frame. It delivers about 90% of the performance against the clock and on paper, but is much easier to conceal. Or at least significantly more comfortable than the Glock, which is neither terribly uncomfortable nor difficult to conceal for me.
 
I got a Glock 43 and a Glock 26, after they'd been out long enough to be ho-hum. They were both used and inexpensive. They're both good shooters. But I still carry a revolver anyway.

After enough time has passed, I'll eventually get a used P365 and/or Hellcat with worn finish for cheap. Doubtless it/they will be reliable and fun to shoot. But I'll still carry a revolver anyway. :)
 
I rented a G26 once, it was just a tad to small for me to be really consistent for my likes.

I only "chased" one other CC gun, an LC9. Wished I had rented that before I bought one, but hindsight is 20/20.

Ah the seal had been broken! One of many reasons to, as I prefer terming it, look up once in awhile. New gun ranges with try it before you buy it makes for potentially fewer mistakes and might lead an older set in their needs shooter to something better (like dating a few women before you pick one).

The same could be true of new shooters, those guys who occasion by at THR with those first few probing questions. They may be blissfully unaware of the 4 previous iterations of Perfection or that replacing their initial Hi-Point pistol might be fraught with smiles.

Consider also that my mother’s ‘80 Mustang LX was not nearly the car my sister’s ‘90 GT convertible was, and again that stacks up short to today’s replacement of the Fox Body Ponies. Technology can and often does make better things than once existed, be it in terms of reliability, ergonomics, or accuracy.

I say thank goodness once in awhile the firearms universe is thrown off its axis by the likes of Glock, sending all others scrambling to reach parody through that sincerest form of flattery. It’s comforting to think the whole of each manufacturer’s R&D has been polarized around such a task which will come to benefit anyone with skin still in the game. I say we live in a Golden Age where many unicorns have now gathered, waiting to be roped so why not oblige?
 
I like to shoot and play with different guns so I do buy new and different stuff. I am also slowly working my way the the CCW process in my county which is arduous to say the least. We are allowed three guns on our permit and even though I have a diversified safe, I chose three Glocks for my permit.

I am from generation G, old enough to remember the days when a 1911 or a revolver where the only real choices for self defense and then came the Glock. Sure there were other semi-autos, but until the Wonder Nine era started anything other than a 1911 was weird, clunky, or funky. Turning 21, I had the choice of Glock, Beretta, S&W, or Sig. The Beretta was the coolest of all those and the star of several contemporary movies. The Sig was twice as expensive as the Beretta and way out of my league. S&W's were being refined but still were squarishly clunky in comparison to the other guns. The Glock was supposed to be the most durable, was the cheapest and when the salesman took it apart with a ballpoint pen I was sold.

Having shot the platform for 30 years I have all the necessary accoutrements to carry and use my Glocks comfortably and safely. Starting over with a new platform after so long with the Glock is not really appealing to me. I am happy to be old school with my 26's and 19's and don't see a need to chase the unicorn. I do have a friend that loves to buy anything new. When we shoot together, he as a whole table full of different handguns. He doesn't shoot any of them particularly well but he does enjoy having them. I think that's great and it lets me try all kinds of different guns. So I do understand folks that like to have the latest and the greatest. The most important thing is to get enjoyment out of the hobby and to be safe. If you are doing those two things then you are on the right track.
 
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This discussion isn't intended to be about a Glock 26 per se.

I don't know how to say it differently than I did in my initial post.

I started out with CZs and I was all in on CZs. Then I decided I needed Third Gen S&Ws. Then M&Ps. then Glocks.

Each one was supposed to be the last rabbit hole I went down. Each one was supposed to be the perfect gun for me and I wasn't going to need to buy another gun.

I'm going to talk about the Glock 26 again as an example.

I bought a Glock 19 to carry at work. I decided to get a Glock 26 for compatibility. The 26 can use the 19 magazines so I didn't need to buy a bunch of 26 magazines. I was satisfied

Then I saw a P365. (I think when they first came out) .

I looked at one and was convinced it would correct all the deficiencies (that I didn't realize even existed until I saw a 365) in the Glock 26.

I was trying to talk my wife into letting me buy the 365 (I hadn't thought far enough ahead to know what I was going to with the 26) and get all dialed up with it when I had an epiphany.

It's a gun there's not enough difference between the two to get me killed (except by my wife who was getting tired of my revolving door gunsafe). There was going to be a next "Latest Greatest" (M&P Plus) that I just had to have and I decided to stop.

The 26 works ,as I'm sure the M&P would have (although with more expensive magazines) as I'm sure the 6906 would have as I'm sure the PCR would have.

There are studies that show that your endocrine system releases Endorphins when you get a new toy. People actually get addicted to that Endorphin rush. I can't speak for anyone else but that rush is what drove most of my gun purchases, it's probably what drives most of my book purchases now but at least books are (relatively) cheap.
 
Before I say anything else this discussion isn't specifically about the Glock 26. It's about the need to have the latest, greatest new carry gun and the idea that the latest, greatest new carry gun is going to solve all my problems and it will be the perfect carry gun.

This discussion isn't intended to be about a Glock 26 per se.

It was well understood, merely pointing out that not all shooters should be assumed to be chasing unicorns or thrills. Consider the phrases “gun culture” and “the gun crowd”; incenses me to no end that some person who has never met any of us assumes that we are of a hive mind in our ownership.

The guy with 20 ccw pistols the same as the 1 rifle deer Hunter is the same as the trap shooter, and on and on. Nothing personal, I’m glad we all meet here for information and discussion, but I don’t consider us all peers based on ownership of what the BATFE considers a firearm. And so it is too that perhaps the OP’s other discussion group has not considered the many varied people and intentions many of us have listed. The need for a first firearm. The need for aging eyes to change to an optics friendly platform. The need for arthritic hands to find an easier to charge pistol. Not everyone will be ever restless to change in hopes of a better mousetrap.
 
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