Browning BLR Issue. Suggestions Welcome.

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JeffDilla

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I took my BLR '81 .308 out this afternoon to get it dialed in for the upcoming deer season. After shooting a few flawless rounds, I started having some issues. At first, after cycling the action and chambering a new round, I'd go to fire but I wasn't able to pull the trigger. It seemed "stuck" and the hammer would not fall. If I cycled the action again and tried to fire the next round, it would usually fire.

Then I experienced another issue. Upon pulling the trigger, the hammer would fall but the firing pin did not strike the primer. I could sort of hear and feel a springy sound within the bolt when this happened. For some reason the firing pin would not strike the primer. If I cocked the hammer and pulled the trigger again, it would fire. These issues happened randomly but probably 6 or 7 times out of 35 rounds.

I'm not terribly familiar with the BLRs. This gun was passed down to me last year by my grandfather. From what I've heard and read, they can be tricky to take down and work on. Does anyone have any suggestions on what this could be? Probably the safest bet would be to just take it to the smith but I'm interested in what you folks have to say.

Thanks.
 
I would hose it down with wd 40 while holding the gun upside down, blow out with compressed air and lightly lube with a good gun oil (wd 40 is not gun oil, but will clean years of gunk from the action. BLR's are not known for heavy firing pin strikes in the first place. I tried shooting 7.62 mil surp ammo thru mine and got misfire after misfire due to hard primers. That might be your problem.

Whatever you do, do not try and disassemble your BRL as you will end up sending it to Browning.
 
You are right about the WD-40 being a good solvent. But unfortunately, if WD-40 is used over a lengthy time and not flushed out with light oil, it forms a varnish which is death to the BLR trigger mechanism. Just speaking from personal experience, other's mileage may vary.
 
Using WD40 will eventually cause this problem. Get a product made for cleaning guns. Otherwise good advice. It sounds like years of built up gunk which is very often caused by long term WD40 use.
 
Thanks for the responses. I don't believe WD-40 was ever used on this gun. Knowing where this rifle came from, I doubt that anything in the bolt, receiver, or trigger mechanism was ever even cleaned. Perhaps it needs a good cleaning.
 
Spray the insides, including the bolt, with gun scrubber or brake cleaner. Use a toothbrush where you can to loosen up any gunk. Hit it with some Rem Oil and try shooting it again.
 
Factory ammo or reloads? Sounds like the bolt is not completely locking. If the cartridge is not chambered all the way the gun will not fire. Most of the 308 BLRs I have seen required small base reloading dies to ensure reliable chambering. A dirty chamber could also cause this.
"Taking down" a BLR is not a good idea. If cleaning w/ the action assembled and ensuring the round is completely chambered and the bolt is all the way closed doesn't fix it take it to a smith who knows BLRs.
 
I was using all factory ammo. Winchester Super X, Remington Core Lokt, and Hornady American Whitetail.

Not being able to pull the trigger seemed to happen mostly with the Hornady rounds. The issue with the firing pin not striking the primer happened sporadically with all of the rounds. Usually cycling the action would work and the next shot would fire...until it happened again.
 
Spot on about using small base dies for reloading. I had a friend who had a Belgium blr and he reloaded for it using standard dies. Right off the bat he got a round stuck in the chamber. He tried to knock out the round with a range rod and before it was over he broke the gear mechanism. He ordered the parts from Browning, but was not able to correctly time the action and had to send it back to Browning.

Like I said, hose out the mechanism with wd40, blow it out with compressed air to get rid of the wd40 and all the gunk and lightly oil the mechanism. I'll bet it will work as long as you are using non military ammo (hard primers).
 
351 Winchester, I took your advice. I used Remington cleaner/degreaser and sprayed all through the trigger assembly, bolt, and gear mechanisms. Then I blew it all out with compressed air and sprayed some Breakfree in those areas to lube and wiped everything down. I'll take it out next weekend and shoot to see if the problem is resolved.

Thanks for the advice.

- Jeff
 
There was definitely some gunk buildup in there. I had black oily bits spattered all over my shirt and arms after blowing everything out with compressed air.
 
Ok, just be sure that the chamber is completely dry and free of any oils or solvents as the case when fired needs to expand and grip the chamber walls to reduce bolt thrust.

Let us know how things work out.
 
Please excuse me if this sounds dumb but is the lever closing completely on the Hornady rounds? Is it possible that that particular brand could be a bit long for the throat?
 
Please excuse me if this sounds dumb but is the lever closing completely on the Hornady rounds? Is it possible that that particular brand could be a bit long for the throat?

I would like to see the answer to this muy pronto (for Yankees, ASAP). I am planning on ordering five boxes of Hornady White Tail .308 for my NIB BLR this morning but will wait a short time to see if I can get an answer...

Thanks for any replies...
 
Yes, the lever is closing completely and the bolt appears to be as well. That was my first thought and was sure to check it every time I ran into the issue of the trigger not pulling.
 
The Hornady rounds were all very accurate and ejected just fine out of my BLR. I'm hoping/guessing that it was just a cleaning issue. I'll be taking it out shooting again on Saturday and will update after I do.
 
Factory ammo or reloads? Sounds like the bolt is not completely locking. If the cartridge is not chambered all the way the gun will not fire. Most of the 308 BLRs I have seen required small base reloading dies to ensure reliable chambering. A dirty chamber could also cause this.

I am not anywhere a reloading expert but try to keep a setup for each of the calibers I shoot; I have just added .308 and will be ordering a set of Lee dies shortly.

What is the difference between small base dies and regular base dies?
 
Just as the name suggests.

Small base dies resize the base of the case smaller then regular dies.

It is usually 'an ingenious solution for a non-existent problem' in auto-loaders like the AR-15.

However, in your case, Browning is notorious for tight SAAMI spec chambers.
And the gear drive action has little to no cam action when chambering & extracting.

SO you should get a SB die set for your BLR.

rc
 
I have found extraction problems with my one year old BLR in .308 and certain ammo. I don't reload but I have found that .308 ammo seems to be fine, 7.62 will sometimes be a real bear to extract. Forget about M80 ball, it's an exercise in frustration. Once I discovered just how much I really like to shoot the BLR I just feed it what it likes, it's worth it to me.
 
The really nice thing about these rifles is you can download them with .30-30 bullets 150 gr. at about 2500 fps which are pure poison on deer.
 
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