380 choices

Which .380 to get?

  • S&W Bodyguard

    Votes: 35 16.0%
  • Keltec P3-AT

    Votes: 37 16.9%
  • Ruger LCP

    Votes: 60 27.4%
  • NAA Guardian

    Votes: 6 2.7%
  • Taurus TCP

    Votes: 9 4.1%
  • Other

    Votes: 72 32.9%

  • Total voters
    219
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I have the Bersa and the Kel Tec

The only thing that annoyed me about the kel tec was that having large hands prevented me from getting a good grip.

As I was playing with both guns today, I installed the base plate from the Bersa magazine on the Kel Tec magazine and the Kel Tec became immediately more comfortable.
 
I sell the kel-tec, bersa, lcp and the bodyguard.
right now the bodyguard is still hard to get in stock and they last but a short time before being sold when I can get one.

What I see when folks are picking between the other 3 are different wants and what they think they need. Folks will buy the kel-tec alot for the price difference and what appears to them not much difference between the kel-tec and the lcp.

Alot of them like the bersa as it seems more like a so called real pistol even being slightly larger and the price puts it in right where the lcp and kel-tec are.
I know I like the other larger calbers but we are talking the small 380's here in a certain price area.

Bottom line is I think we have alot of choices out there to chose from which is great!!
 
How much are the P238 going for these days new?

$400 is my max BUT I may be able to go up to 425.
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I love my LCP, but I voted for TCP because of the better ergos and great price. I also don't want a pocket .380 with sights that can snag on my pocket.
 
I personally haven't handled a P238, but isn't it a SAO? If so, and correct me if I'm wrong, that means you have to carry it cocked and locked, and when you need it you have to draw and flip off the safety. Seems a little dangerous for a carry gun - you could bump against something and push the safety off, and then you'd be in a very dangerous situation.

A few points to throw into the discussion:

Some of the other guns mentioned here are DAO (e.g. Ruger LCP), which in my book is a no-no. A lot of people prefer a DA/SA for a carry gun. Double action for the first shot, single action for subsequent shots.

Also, I haven't done a complete survey, but some of these .380s (e.g. The Ruger LCP again) won't take +P ammo. Not sure about the others. Anybody? With a caliber this small every little bit helps.

The Walther PPK is a beautiful little .380, but there are quite a few stories out there of misfeeds and stovepipes. It's said that a firm grip is needed to help the gun cycle properly, and many people have fired thousands of rounds without a problem. It's double/single action.

I'm going to be in the market for a CCW .380 myself soon, so I'm watching this subject with intense interest.
 
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I actually shot the LCP, the Taurus and the Bodyguard and even though the TCP has the best trigger, the Bodyguard is the gun I was most accurate with. Also it looks the coolest.
So my vote goes to that.
 
Likes & Dislikes

I've been around firearms most of my life and have carried a weapon almost every day for the last 30 years. Twice, it's been out and in my hand, with intent, but never actually fired except in practice. I've never found the perfect pocket .380, everything has trade offs and I've definitely got some preferences, pro & con.
My weapon of choice for the last 26 years has been an AMT DAO Backup .380. Until the latest rash of small, light weight .380s came to light I'd never even considered anything else on the market. I still don't with any seriousness, this works just fine for me. The ONLY downside to this weapon for me is it's weight since it's all stainless steel, but that also minimizes recoil. I LIKE the European-style magazine catch on the bottom and the absence of any controls on it's slick sides. I LIKE the small sights, and the long, heavy trigger pull. Nothing to get snagged and as fool-proof as possible, bearing in mind that none of these are target pistols. My son was 8 years old before he could pull it's trigger at the range, with pointer and middle fingers of BOTH hands required. He didn't hit much but it went bang. I've always kept it locked up, or up high, or on my person but there were inevitably a couple of lapses, on my part, over the years. I never particularly worried about MY kids getting their hands on it, by the time they COULD successfully pull the trigger they had been shooting for years and were pretty much negligent-discharge-proof and muzzle aware. The only problem I've EVER had with it, after breaking it in, was a broken firing pin at about 500 rounds, a couple of months after I bought it. I drove 20 miles over to El Monte, CA and the factory foreman installed the new version, with rounded corners & shoulders, in about two minutes, while I watched. Of course that was a different era. The predecessor of this piece was the single action Backup, which I also owned, and the only gripe I had about it at the time was that the safety lever got moved to Fire in my pocket a couple of times. Never had an actual discharge but it was worrisome to me. When AMT brought out the DAO I jumped all over it. Both are available, today, on Gunbroker for less than $300.
The biggest flaw IMO of all of the recent additions to this class is too many buttons to push or levers to operate, mostly residing on the side of the pistol likely to be carried against the body of a right handed person. The worst offender, from pictures online, looks to be the S & W...GEEZ, mag release, slide stop, safety, and take down(?) all on the left side within an inch or so of each other. If you put this thing, and many of it's modern competitors, in your hip pocket and sit on it the most likely result will be the mag release getting pushed and dropping the mag upon drawing. Put them in your front pocket, specially with anything else, and any control on them can get operated inadvertently.
If you've got the money, considering that the first time you actually shoot someone you're likely to lose the use of it for years or forever, the Seecamp or the Rohrbaugh are perhaps the perfect pocket .380s but at $800++ they are out of my league.
JR
 
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