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Remember those words, hope they don't come back to haunt you.
9 mm FMJ Point Blank Gunshot Wound (Warning - GRAPHIC PICS!!)
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Remember those words, hope they don't come back to haunt you.
model of 1905
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I treat my guns as if they are always loaded for a very good reason. They ARE always loaded.
I'm in no way critcizing the OP or anyone else in this thread, but I think the comments about weapons needing manuel safeties, avbout Glocks bewing "inherrently dangerous" due the trigger needing to be pulled for disassembly and whanot are all way off base. Whether its the first of 100th time I've handled a particulart gun in a hour, day, week, month, etc....When I pick it up, the first thing I do is open the cylinder if a revolver, drop the mag and check the chamber if an automatic, open the bolt or a rifle or shotgun, etc. I do this EVERY time, because "knowing" its empty isn't good enough. I have to be visually assured of the fact. I don't trust myself, my wife, my father, my best friend....ANYONE...enough to simply assume or take their word for it when it comes to guns. My Sigma also needs to be dry-fired to disassemble, and I don't think twice about it....I do things the same way each and every time, and have never had issues doing so.
Rem870Fan
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Thanks for sharing these painful pics. Reminding folks that things like this can happen might prevent something similar or worse.
Regular Joe
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There ya' go. Everything related to firearms is a discipline. I got my G-19 about 6 months ago, and from day one, discipline has dictated that I look first at the chamber and then the trigger to see if a round is chambered. On the 19, you can see part of the chambered cartridge behind the breech. The trigger is a good ways forward in the "ready" position than it is after firing. Drop the mag, place it nearby, and lock the breech open. The gun is clear. Close the action, and aim at something that can take a hit. Dry fire.
I've had firearms for over 45 years, with one ND involving a bolt rifle through the ceiling. No blood. I've been surprised a time or three when I've pulled the trigger on a gun that I thought was empty after firing a mag, but they've always been pointed down range.
Handling a gun is like handling a car when you're doing 80 mph. You just plain better know what's going on.
I've had firearms for over 45 years, with one ND involving a bolt rifle through the ceiling. No blood. I've been surprised a time or three when I've pulled the trigger on a gun that I thought was empty after firing a mag, but they've always been pointed down range.
Handling a gun is like handling a car when you're doing 80 mph. You just plain better know what's going on.
Wow looks like you wont forget that I have herd of this happing to cops in NYPD and Boston PD. This dose not make Glock a bad gun or the way it is built this just shows as you now always know whats in you gun and always clear it and treat it like it loaded!!! Sorry to had to have a reminder of this good thing this is all that happen could of been alot worse could of hit somone else.
Boba Fett
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No worry of haunting. Davek1977, in addition to others, has summed up why some of us do not worry about this happening to us:
Amen!
I don't understand all the retarded comments about the Glock, and pulling the trigger for take down. How many people here dry fire their 1911 for practice? probably quite a few. But that's OK. If you empty the damn gun before you disassemble, you won't shoot yourself. It's really that simple.
Double Naught Spy
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It really is that simple, yet this problem happens repetitively with Glocks. The one gun show I was at where there was an ND was when a Glock armorer shot a Glock into the floor when he was taking down a gun to work on it. No doubt the guy had taken down Glocks 10s of thousands of times and BOOM it happened.
The problem with Glocks is that the MUST have the trigger pulled for take down.
The #1 safety is between your ears and yet it is the #1 most fallible safety as well. Ironic, no?
The problem with Glocks is that the MUST have the trigger pulled for take down.
The #1 safety is between your ears and yet it is the #1 most fallible safety as well. Ironic, no?
Seenterman
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Ahhhh! Ow ow ow ow i need the eye bleach!
ZCORR Jay
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Gotta say thanks for sharing. It images like those that keep us aware of what can happen with a simple slip of the mind. Hope the hand heals up good and fast.
Dewey 68
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I hope it is, the original post is over a year old.
Maybe the OP will update us with some pix of his hand after it healed.
I think I would also like to see the healed hand, and know if there is any nerve damage?
I carry the same pistol, the Glock 19, tip for disassembly, magazine out, then lock the slide back! Leave the slide back, check the breach.
Even after you allow the slide to go forward, in the dark even! You can feel the extractor sticking out if there is a round up the pipe!
See what can happen when you get careless? very graphic.
sxshep
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Best of luck with your recovery... I'm still recovering from my June 20th negligent discharge from my Kimber 1911. Since then, I've become a safety nut around any weapons.
kda
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Regarding the reply by masonaux about the Glock not having a hammer. We've all had our fun with that one already ... a couple of times in fact! How tiresome.
Good idea from a couple of others who want to see how it turned out.
I stepped out onto the back patio a few moments ago and here is the entry wound all healed up.
Here is the exit wound a bit over one year later.
There has been some persistent nerve damage. When I push directly on the surface of the entry wound with the thumb from my other hand, the wound area feels bumpy to the thumb. Feels as if there were ridges of hard scar tissue under the skin. And that area of my palm feels "numbly tingly", if that description makes any sense. There is no sensation at the site of the exit wound, just a tiny dead area about the size of a pencil eraser.
The little finger is partially numb, but not so much that it continues to interfere with my typing. That is I can barely feel the keys with my little finger but I can feel them. The little finger never hurts unless I put it up against something that is cold, like a glass of iced tea. Otherwise is it quite tingly when touched, but only when touched. Never bothers my sleep or anything I do.
So I got really lucky. Like one of my doctors said ... "That is the best shot you will ever make in your life". There were so many ways to hit something serious and really damage that hand ... well I got off easy.
And ... and ... wait for it ... like I tell people who know about it ... "com'on, haven't you always wondered what it felt like to be shot?". That even got a laugh out of my doctor.
I have since put 6,500 down range rounds through that particular Glock and have not has anything even approaching and "incident", accident or mishap. So the experience did:
1. Answer my question about what it would feel like.
2. Teach me a lot about never assuming anything when handling weapons ... check and recheck.
3. Did not stop me from improving my shooting skills.
Good idea from a couple of others who want to see how it turned out.
I stepped out onto the back patio a few moments ago and here is the entry wound all healed up.
Here is the exit wound a bit over one year later.
There has been some persistent nerve damage. When I push directly on the surface of the entry wound with the thumb from my other hand, the wound area feels bumpy to the thumb. Feels as if there were ridges of hard scar tissue under the skin. And that area of my palm feels "numbly tingly", if that description makes any sense. There is no sensation at the site of the exit wound, just a tiny dead area about the size of a pencil eraser.
The little finger is partially numb, but not so much that it continues to interfere with my typing. That is I can barely feel the keys with my little finger but I can feel them. The little finger never hurts unless I put it up against something that is cold, like a glass of iced tea. Otherwise is it quite tingly when touched, but only when touched. Never bothers my sleep or anything I do.
So I got really lucky. Like one of my doctors said ... "That is the best shot you will ever make in your life". There were so many ways to hit something serious and really damage that hand ... well I got off easy.
And ... and ... wait for it ... like I tell people who know about it ... "com'on, haven't you always wondered what it felt like to be shot?". That even got a laugh out of my doctor.
I have since put 6,500 down range rounds through that particular Glock and have not has anything even approaching and "incident", accident or mishap. So the experience did:
1. Answer my question about what it would feel like.
2. Teach me a lot about never assuming anything when handling weapons ... check and recheck.
3. Did not stop me from improving my shooting skills.
porterdog
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Thx for update.
Nushif
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Me too! Kinda.
I almost had a ND the other day.
I was moving the wife's Beretta the other day. It has an identical twin that she also messes with sometimes and decided I'd play with it a bit, myself. One is always locked and loaded, the other is rarely shot or fed any ammo.
So I dropped the mag and wanted to lower the hammer. (It's a single action, one of the older ones.)
Suddenly I got this massive wave of Bad JuJu and figured I'd check the chamber, too, since I can drop the hammer on 1911s proficiently, but hers feels different and sometimes it snaps. Also I didn't *remember* actually looking at the magazine.
So I racked the slide. And lo and behold, out tumbles a nice little surprise. That was a doozie.
I almost had a ND the other day.
I was moving the wife's Beretta the other day. It has an identical twin that she also messes with sometimes and decided I'd play with it a bit, myself. One is always locked and loaded, the other is rarely shot or fed any ammo.
So I dropped the mag and wanted to lower the hammer. (It's a single action, one of the older ones.)
Suddenly I got this massive wave of Bad JuJu and figured I'd check the chamber, too, since I can drop the hammer on 1911s proficiently, but hers feels different and sometimes it snaps. Also I didn't *remember* actually looking at the magazine.
So I racked the slide. And lo and behold, out tumbles a nice little surprise. That was a doozie.
Demitrios
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I've been shooting since I was a kid, around firearms even longer and whenever anyone feels the need to check if I'm being safe I appreciate it. This is not the kind of sport for big egos when it comes to safety. And KDA. . . . QUIT PICKING IT!
kda
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Quit picking it???? QUIT PICKING IT?? .... sound like my wife.
Kingofthehill
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I love the people who say
"So you don't have to pull the trigger to take down the XDm... its not an issue, really"
"So you don't have to pull the trigger to take down the XDm... its not an issue, really"
Full Metal Jacket
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glad to see your hand healed up well.
one good way of looking at the whole situation is, there's much worse appendages to inadvertently shoot....
did the police hassle you for illegal weapons discharge or anything?
one good way of looking at the whole situation is, there's much worse appendages to inadvertently shoot....
did the police hassle you for illegal weapons discharge or anything?
gun guy
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There have been numours "accidental" discharges with glocks. Far more actually then with other similar weapons. Some resulting in fatalities. Several departments have changed firearms due to this problem. True it is usually operator error, but we are human and sometimes not totally focused on the task at hand. However, if you follow common gun safety procedure, clear the weapon, check the weapon..POINT THE MUZZLE IN A SAFE DIRECTION..before you pull the trigger, most likely one step will catch and stop the accident. I do extend my sympathys and wish you a speedy recover. Have a great day.
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