9mm carbines - a few questions

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Found one with red dot for $290. Now need to see if the Goddess is OK with it ;)
 
It's not as much the light weight of the gun, as the feel of the shot itself. Shooting a .22 rifle while wearing ear protection feels to me like shooting a BB gun.
 
Honestly, if you don't like the price of .22 revolver then you won't like the price of center fire ammo. Get a good used 10/22.

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I have the 995 and 4595 and love to shoot them both. but ammo prices are a downside. A little Duracoat on the 4595 dressed it up a bit
 

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It's not as much the light weight of the gun, as the feel of the shot itself. Shooting a .22 rifle while wearing ear protection feels to me like shooting a BB gun.

Soooooo, take off your ear protection. .22 LR rimfire from a rifle really doesn't require hearing protection. (it's still a good idea, tho)
 
Yes, both the recoil and the sound. I can't take ear protection off - I don't have a private range, and not everyone around would be shooting .22.

As to the cost of ammo - I already need to buy 9mm plinking ammo for my Glock, I don't think I would shoot twice as much if I got the carbine. Probably would just spend less time with Glock.

995TS is what I am leaning towards.
 
So, you're at a public range shooting paper, but a .22 just isn't enough....

Well, ok. Buy yourself a 9mm carbine and have some fun!!
 
1) Since this is a carbine in pistol cartridge, do I have to get a purchase permit / FFL transfer like I did when I got my handgun ? (I live in MI).
Nope! Hi-Point carbines come in at 32.5 inches long.

2) Is the price above a good price to pay for a stock basic HP. This was the lowest price I found (but I didn't look hard).
It's a fair price. $250 is a great bargain for such solid guns. You could theoretically find them cheaper in the secondhand market. I've seen them go for $175 used at gun shows. They're probably the best deal in firearms right now after 91/30's and Makarovs.

3) Any reason to get a .22 over it (other than the cost of ammo) ? I don't hunt, and if I ever decide to pick up the sport, I'd get a "real" hunting gear then. I live in a suburb, so no critter hunting either.
Uuuhhhhhhh... you're the kind of guy who delights in turning learning how to shoot into a monotonous chore?

4) Any reason NOT to get one. So far everything I read seem to indicate that these Hi-Points are reliable & fun to shoot.
The only reason to not get one is if you were some sort of snob. They're ridiculously great guns for the price. To find better, you'd have to spend at least twice as much money for only marginal improvement. They're made in America. Yes, they're actually manufactured and assembled in the USA by American workers. They are superbly reliable and dead simple. It's a direct blowback action. The controls are well thought out; if you know the FAL, then you'll pick it up in a heartbeat. The warranty and customer service are unparalleled; if you have problems, then ship it back to them and they'll fix it for free, plus that warranty isn't limited or bound to the original purchaser. Hi-Point carbines are definitely the greatest steal in American firearms today.
 
Honestly, if you don't like the price of .22 revolver then you won't like the price of center fire ammo. Get a good used 10/22.

+1 on that, fer sure.

Get yourself a nice used Marlin 60 ... should run you about $100 or so, $150 for a new one (personally, I'd prefer an older gently used one, but that is just me). Tube fed .. no mags to buy (or loose!)

.22 ammo is a LOT cheaper .. you'll "pay for the rifle" in no time just on the ammo savings.
 
There's something to be said for a "self-contained" gun with a tube, but there's also something to be said for the fast reload that detachable magazines allow, as well as varying capacities. I can choose between 10, 25 and 50 rd mags for my 10-22, depending on what I want to do.

The tubular mag only holds what it holds, but a manually operated gun (bolt, lever) can run .22 Shorts easily and increase on-board capacity if it matters.

I recently bought an EZ Loader to rapidly reload a tubular mag, so that'll help the reload time.
 
As for HD use: My father in law got a HP 9mm carbine for HD because they reminded him of the M1 carbine he carried during the war.
 
I hated the plastic trigger on these. You can make it less ugly by getting the berreta clone stock.
 
Well, I really appreciate all replies.

After talking to some friends & people at work, I realized that a good .22 rifle would be the best for him to learn on (and who knows, I may fall in love with it too ;) . So I got us a Marlin 795 with an el cheapo scope, to be replaced soon.

I am still thinking of a carbine and will be checking on good deals on them.
 
Is it as light and handy as the Keltec Subrifle?

You know, the one that'll let you run n' gun the course TWICE on the same magazine!

But its made out of plastic, unlike the JR Carbine;

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Not to mention the unlimited sight options. ;)
 
But its made out of plastic, unlike the JR Carbine;

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Not to mention the unlimited sight options. ;)

I'd be curious to run some metallurgy tests on that Hi Point....

The Keltec can fold up into a pretty small package and can run the reliable Glock mags, including the 33 rounders, altho I see in your pic you have the same mags.

How much was that whole upgrade?
 
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