His entire mas was moving forward. Gravity would not reverse that momentum.Knock his center of gravity past the centerline and he’s 100% falling over backwards.
His entire mas was moving forward. Gravity would not reverse that momentum.Knock his center of gravity past the centerline and he’s 100% falling over backwards.
You’ve never seen someone get clotheslined?His entire mas was moving forward. Gravity would not reverse that momentum.
Certainly not the same thing, in terms of force and moment.You’ve never seen someone get clotheslined?
I saw pain and crazy determination:
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At this frame, he'd already been shot numerous times and was just stumbling forward on crazy determination to be shot.
No one has mentioned that this dude is wearing a Night Stalker shirt from the 160th Spec. Ops. Aviation Regiment.
"Night Stalkers Don't Quit!"
Certainly not the same thing, in terms of force and moment.
Most prosecutors have never had to fire a gun to save their life. I don’t give a damn if he shot him with an 88mm artillery gun. Once he started swinging the stick he forfeited his life.anyone questioning the number of rounds fired in this particular case has never had to fire a gun to save their life.
Angular and linear momentum and the amount and direction force that could have been applies by a smaller man moving backward, along with the ability of the attacker to disarm the defender and that of the defender to prevent it.It’s a problem of angular momentum and center of mass
Just startingtp swing would not have justified that much force, had he stopped.Once he started swinging the stick he forfeited his life.
The only thing I would suggest is moving off line.But how many rounds should you shoot before you adapt your tactics? All of them? At any point before running out of ammo should you try something else?
Less forceful? Where’s your evidence for that?
I can’t help thinking that a palm strike or uppercut to his chin with the left hand would have put him on the ground faster than those nine extra bullets.
Not to mention the taser.Given the fact that the aggressor was so crazed and energized that the first few rounds did not stop him , it is not logical to think that punching him in the face would end the threat.
Indeed.In addition , a cease fire - however brief - combined with physical contact between the officer and the assailant puts the officer at greater risk.
Absolutely.Maintaining separation is paramount.
I cannot imagine why anyone would switch from deadly force to non-deadly physical force in that situation,Far too many fine motor skills to reholster and begin grappling under stress.
You don’t have to imagine it. You saw it in the video. Deadly physical force wasn’t working.I cannot imagine why anyone would switch from deadly force to non-deadly physical force in that situation,
You don’t have to imagine it. You saw it in the video. Deadly physical force wasn’t working.
Are any of you guys ever going to admit the plainly obvious fact that the gun wasn’t being immediately effective?
It did not work as quickly as it does on Gunsmoke, but it did work.You don’t have to imagine it. You saw it in the video. Deadly physical force wasn’t working.
Are any of you guys ever going to admit the plainly obvious fact that the gun wasn’t being immediately effective?
Unless he appears to be wearing a vest, as many times as it takes.I’ll ask one last time because nobody seems to be answering: how many times do you shoot someone center mass
After about the 8th shot with seemingly no effect I would concluded he appeared to be wearing a vest. I would have expected him to at least show some indication of being shot, which I didn’t see. What I saw was defiance, practically a dare to keep shooting him as if the guy knew he was bulletproof. I would have concluded the bullets weren’t penetrating. Even when he was on the ground there was just the barest trace of blood visible on his pants.Unless he appears to be wearing a vest, as many times as it takes.
Would you have expected a more immediate result in this case? Why?
We see numerous cases in which quite a number of hits are needed, sometimes fom multiple officers. That's the way things work.
After about the 8th shot with seemingly no effect I would concluded he appeared to be wearing a vest. I would have expected him to at least show some indication of being shot, which I didn’t see. What I saw was defiance, practically a dare to keep shooting him as if the guy knew he was bulletproof. I would have concluded the bullets weren’t penetrating. Even when he was on the ground there was just the barest trace of blood visible on his pants.
So you are saying you would put every round you have into the area that didn’t seem to be working? On this we shall have to disagree.
Shot placement was a matter of chance and could only have been measured after the fact.Shot placement and a 38 would have been fine. In fact, shot placement with a .380 would have gotten the job done IMHO
The fellow had crashed into a couple o cars and attacked the occupants.does anyone know the story about this case? why was the contact made?
I think the officer just happened along.what was the initial call?
One can compare hitting vital organs to drilling for oil in a fast-moving area.I am not sure I agree that shot placement is by chance.
Consider the timing.vs thinking “well, this isn’t exactly an expedited method, perhaps