A Glock observation

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I have 1200++ rounds through 5 different Glocks, with mostly WWB and Rem GWB crap (plus GoldDots,HST,GS) and not one failure of any kind. This is why I carry a Glock, personal experience along with quality and design. I had one Glock that got cranky after 550 rounds and Glock fixed it within 10 days round trip and it runs great now. If there is a problem the factory support is great.

Out of 4 other pistols I've shot way less than 1200 rounds each, two had problems and one was a POS with obvious signs of wear after 500 rounds.

If this somehow makes me a fanboy then oh well. I think 1200+ trouble free rounds under all kinds of conditions is a sign of quality. After experiencing all kinds of low quality crap in my life I'm not going to put up with it for a defensive pistol. I'll pay $200 extra if I have too.
 
Hartkopf said:
I have 1200++ rounds through 5 different Glocks, with mostly WWB and Rem GWB crap (plus GoldDots,HST,GS) and not one failure of any kind. This is why I carry a Glock, personal experience along with quality and design. I had one Glock that got cranky after 550 rounds and Glock fixed it within 10 days round trip and it runs great now. If there is a problem the factory support is great.

Out of 4 other pistols I've shot way less than 1200 rounds each, two had problems and one was a POS with obvious signs of wear after 500 rounds.

If this somehow makes me a fanboy then oh well. I think 1200+ trouble free rounds under all kinds of conditions is a sign of quality. After experiencing all kinds of low quality crap in my life I'm not going to put up with it for a defensive pistol. I'll pay $200 extra if I have too.
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1,200 is a mild warm up for a glock. Out of many thousands of rounds through at least 7 different glocks, I've experienced one FTF and it was the first mag on a G30 single stack, brand new gun. That isnt to say they dont have their issues. Feeding and reliability isnt one of them, but throwing brass erratically is once your round count gets up into the thousands. I dont like it, but I'm too far invested to even think of turning back now.....
 
DustyGmt said:
1,200 is a mild warm up for a glock. Out of many thousands of rounds through at least 7 different glocks, I've experienced one FTF and it was the first mag on a G30 single stack, brand new gun. That isnt to say they dont have their issues. Feeding and reliability isnt one of them, but throwing brass erratically is once your round count gets up into the thousands. I dont like it, but I'm too far invested to even think of turning back now.....
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Yeah 1200 is a typical break in period for a new gun, usually 2-3 range trips (well, these days I have to cut back some until I can be sure of replinishing my primer supply).

Glocks definitely dried up around here pretty quick, I sold off a pair for reasonable used prices, probably could have gotten more but I don't like panic gouging. One of the local shops is a Sig dealer and has piles and piles of 320s, yet the two Glock dealers are clean out and have been for months.

Oddly, I've seen 365s and Hellcats in stock at all three places every time I've been in.

I did see an email from grabagun just today that they had 19.5s back in stock for $670 or something like that. High price but obnoxious I guess.

Glocks work for me, other plastics can as well.but for whatever reason I shoot Glocks best of the polymer strikers so I stick with them.
 
Yes, I believe they just do not know any better. The People that see a Glock thread and say anything on the contrary that there are also guns as good as a Glock are just people that need help. A twisted logic. Some part of the brain that just does not function properly. Maybe they were dropped on their head when they were toddlers. Bad Parenting, any kinds of reasons. Yes they need professional help and on going treatment. I do not mean just going to a Shrink, but sent to someplace like Switzerland where a TEAM of Doctors can study this insane behavior and maybe some day find a cure.
 
Ernie Bass said:
Yes, I believe they just do not know any better. The People that see a Glock thread and say anything on the contrary that there are also guns as good as a Glock are just people that need help. A twisted logic. Some part of the brain that just does not function properly. Maybe they were dropped on their head when they were toddlers. Bad Parenting, any kinds of reasons. Yes they need professional help and on going treatment. I do not mean just going to a Shrink, but sent to someplace like Switzerland where a TEAM of Doctors can study this insane behavior and maybe some day find a cure.
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I know you are being sarcastic, but I can't understand what you are trying to say in that word salad.

Are you making fun of those that like Glocks or those that hate them?
 
There's a discussion over on Glock talk called My Glock 21 has proven its worth.

The guy that wrote it decided to see he could get his Glock to stop working. If I remember right he threw it out of an airplane. He buried it in mud. He froze it in a bucket of salt water he open the action and poured sand in it and then shot it.

He claims to have put 250,000 rounds through it and said that he finally wore out the barrel.
 
JR24 said:
Yeah 1200 is a typical break in period for a new gun, usually 2-3 range trips (well, these days I have to cut back some until I can be sure of replinishing my primer supply).

Glocks definitely dried up around here pretty quick, I sold off a pair for reasonable used prices, probably could have gotten more but I don't like panic gouging. One of the local shops is a Sig dealer and has piles and piles of 320s, yet the two Glock dealers are clean out and have been for months.

Oddly, I've seen 365s and Hellcats in stock at all three places every time I've been in.

I did see an email from grabagun just today that they had 19.5s back in stock for $670 or something like that. High price but obnoxious I guess.

Glocks work for me, other plastics can as well.but for whatever reason I shoot Glocks best of the polymer strikers so I stick with them.
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I see just the opposite at my LGS. They had and have more Glocks than other firearms. But I will say they were selling them at a huge premium. I guess it could be the suppliers, allotments etc?
 
Trunk Monkey said:
There's a discussion over on Glock talk called My Glock 21 has proven its worth.

The guy that wrote it decided to see he could get his Glock to stop working. If I remember right he threw it out of an airplane. He buried it in mud. He froze it in a bucket of salt water he open the action and poured sand in it and then shot it.

He claims to have put 250,000 rounds through it and said that he finally wore out the barrel.
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Dang! now that is one tough gun. Just curious, did he have to change out the recoil spring or any parts before shooting?
 
At one time Glock held an advantage in reliability and durability over most other handguns. And were very reasonably priced as well. Today there are other options that in my opinion are just as good and they offer some features that some find more appealing. But when it comes to aftermarket support and buying magazines etc., Glock is still WAY ahead of the competition. For someone who is not a gun person choosing a Glock is never a bad choice. Choosing something else may be a better option, but it may be a poor choice too. Glock is still a safe bet.

For a long time I was what you'd call a " Glock guy". But anymore I'm finding I prefer the Sig 320 or 365 design or the Smith M&P slightly better than Glock. But my Glocks aren't for sale. If things things get real I'd be glad that I still have them.
 
JR24 said:
I know you are being sarcastic, but I can't understand what you are trying to say in that word salad.

Are you making fun of those that like Glocks or those that hate them?
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I was about to say the same thing.

Reminded me of this. :)

"I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant”

― Alan Greenspan
 
Ernie Bass said:
Dang! now that is one tough gun. Just curious, did he have to change out the recoil spring or any parts before shooting?
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I have a Glock 17 that had 150K on it when it broke a rail. Glock replaced the frame and rebuilt the gun, for free, and Im still shooting it every week in practice.

Prior to that, it broke a trigger spring at around 90K and 120K.

RSA's replaced a couple of times a year.
 
Trunk Monkey said:
There's a discussion over on Glock talk called My Glock 21 has proven its worth.

The guy that wrote it decided to see he could get his Glock to stop working. If I remember right he threw it out of an airplane. He buried it in mud. He froze it in a bucket of salt water he open the action and poured sand in it and then shot it.

He claims to have put 250,000 rounds through it and said that he finally wore out the barrel.
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Yep, just like I thought. Glock barrels are Junk. 1911 is real man gun.
 
jmr40 said:
There are several documented 9mm Glocks with near, or over 300,000 rounds. That's not to say something else won't do it . But so far no one has proven it.
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I prefer the late Todd Greens testing as he documented everything.

From Todd Greens Endurance tests. http://pistol-training.com/
You can read them all through the archives.

SA 1911 (9mm)
64,579rds 15 Stoppages 0 malfunctions 5 Parts Breakages
*Barrel shot out

Glock 17 Gen4
71,260rds 19 Stoppages (+1 non LCI) 0 malfunctions 3 Parts Breakages
*Breachface damage

S&W M&P9
62,333rds 2 Stoppages 0 malfunctions 3 Parts Breakages
*Cracked Slide

H&K P30
91,322rds 13 Stoppages 0 malfunctions 5 Parts Breakages
*Broken Frame

H&K45
50,000rds 1 Stoppages 1 malfunctions 1 Parts Breakage
*unknown why he stopped the test.
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Glock had the quickest stoppage at round 62 and the HK45 went the longest to round 31,523.
 
Pat Riot said:
Recoil Spring Assemblies? After how many rounds do you change them? I have about 2000 rounds through my G45 and G34 and was thinking it’s about time to change the recoil springs.
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I normally shoot 15-20K a year out of that gun and was changing them roughly every six months. Even then, the gun always passed "the test" thats supposed to tell you if it needs replaced.

There was always a lot of differing info I saw posted over the years. Im thinking Glock used to recommend 7500 rounds, but when I sent the gun in, the rep told me it was now 5000.

Either way, its cheap insurance, even the more expensive newer versions.


As far as the stoppages thing goes, I suppose if youre shooting nothing but factory ammo, it might be something, but if youre shooting reloads, I dont think its anything to really go by or be important.

I might shoot a case of factory over the year, and the rest of it is all my reloads. I load/shoot my brass to failure (generally splits or cracked cases when they are done), and as it starts getting worn out, I start to get all sorts of random failures. From what I can tell, thats due to the rims getting tore up by the extractor from constant use and thats whats causing the problems.

I can usually tell when Im into an older lot in the queue, as the stoppages tend to increase.

At first it was annoying, and I actually thought something might be wrong with the gun, as it really started in strong about the time a lot of people were bitching about BTF and rumor had it, the extractors were bad. I swapped it out and nothing changed, and then I started to see what was going on. If I shot factory ammo or freshly reloaded brass, the gun ran fine. If I shot my older reloads, I was getting random/sporadic stoppages. Put the old extractor back in and carried on, and it was replaced when Glock rebuilt the gun.

Turns out, the "bad thing" is a good thing from a training standpoint, and I get random, off the wall, unplanned or set up malfunctions all the time, and I get "good" malfunction drills, whenever, and to the point, I just do it now without thought, and Im right back in action.
 
A CZ 75 SP-01sells for $629.00 out here and that is not necessarily a great deal. But these are back ordered and I’m told by my LGS that they have been able to fill the back orders with CZ over the last few months. I have CZ’s and Glocks and I’m partial to both but for different intended purposes. IMHO, my CZ 75B is a better range gun than my Gen 3 17, but the 17 is a better carry gun that shoots really well. It really all depends what you want to use it for, but there’s no way I’m paying inflated Glock prices if I had to have a gun relatively quickly, and I can get that CZ for a decent price.
 
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Old Dog said:
Apparently the OP needs to travel out a bit further, as I'm noticing that almost all semi-auto pistols seem to be selling for a premium on both the new and used market.
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Yes they have all gone up some just due to shortage, but they have not all gone up the same. Glocks are in higher demand and have gone up more. Doesn’t matter where you live, you can search something called the internet and see it.
 
What's this "internet" thing you speak of?

I find it almost laughable that some folks think Glocks are necessarily in higher demand than any other handgun. There are simply more out there, and they're more common, and more neophytes willing to pay a premium for a name brand, hence the retailers can get away with charging a steeper price. These are the same folks paying $40 for a box of aluminum-cased 9mm.

Lots of folks out there still buying a lot of Folger's Coffee in a can, drinking it, when there's so many better choices out there.
 
At this point I don't own a Glock. I have only shot my buds gen1 9mm and his new 10mm. Nice guns that nearly always work and the prices used to be fair for what you got. I am on the Notify Me list at Aim Surplus for when a police turn in 22 or 27 shows up. I want a 40 caliber gun. I already have 3 9mms and want a 40. I thought the 40 was the best round the cops ever had. About the power of a 45 and the capacity of a 9mm. And yes I have shot a 40 before. I had a Beretta Couger in 40 caliber. I just didn't like the gun.

I like that Glocks are known for their long term durability and easy to find parts, cheap magazines and great factory support. Whats not to like?
 
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