Anti from somewhere least expected...
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Definitely a troublesome situation. I wish I could help other that comic relief. Hopefully this is a stage that he will grow out of soon.
LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
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Well, he only recently went into it, 'bout as soon as I brought guns into this house. Jealousy maybe?
Solo, I agree with that very much so.
*If only they made the things*
Solo, I agree with that very much so.
*If only they made the things*
LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
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lol!!!!!!!!!!
well I'm taking it better now that I'm not the only one who thinks he's psycho.
well I'm taking it better now that I'm not the only one who thinks he's psycho.
Tell him to try to gain a few levels in the real world. Living in fantasy for every waking moment doesn't give him a perspective for the way things really are.
"What do you mean I can't outrun the cops? I've done it loads of times on Grand Theft Auto."
"What do you mean I can't outrun the cops? I've done it loads of times on Grand Theft Auto."
LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
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See, he plays that anytime he ain't playing World of Warcraft, lol.
LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
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The thing is, I don't really respond to him at all, well, mostly. A couple times it was too much. Now a "normal" person shouldn't be saying things like he's gonna kill me for bringing his obsession up with russia.
So I figure if he thinks he can kill me, why not let him have a few goes first? It's a little reckless I know, but hey.
So I figure if he thinks he can kill me, why not let him have a few goes first? It's a little reckless I know, but hey.
Shung
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can't you just "make him jump" ???(private joke inside)
I'm kidding mate, no offense
I'm kidding mate, no offense
This isn't even really an "anti-gunner" problem at all.
- As it's stated, he's 16, what he thinks does not matter at all. Don't let it worry you. Let WHY he acts this way worry you.
- With his limited social life, and being in his older 19 y.o. brother's shadow, he has a massive inferiority complex and low self esteem.
- He's deliberately taking on a belief system/persona to irritate you, and get negative attention out of you. This is not completely conscious on his part.
- He's obsessive about another culture, where your family history is, (Russia) because he's got a very deep need to self-identify with something. This is tying into his low self-esteem and social isolation.
Mentally, he's flirting with the mindset that the Columbine kids had. They felt so lost, outside, and like losers, that they deliberately identified with negative cultures and things in history. Harris and Klebold chose Hitler, your little brother is focusing in on the negative totalitarian aspects of Communism which has a tie in to your Russian family heritage. It's a way of saying "F'-it all…I quit! I'm one of the bad guys!" way of throwing in the towel on normal life in which he feels a failure, yet the violence and dominance in that evil/totalitarian culture has something that makes him feel empowered at the same time.
If it's a mild case, your little brother needs a broader social life and a girl, if it's worse, he needs some counseling/help/medication.
- As it's stated, he's 16, what he thinks does not matter at all. Don't let it worry you. Let WHY he acts this way worry you.
- With his limited social life, and being in his older 19 y.o. brother's shadow, he has a massive inferiority complex and low self esteem.
- He's deliberately taking on a belief system/persona to irritate you, and get negative attention out of you. This is not completely conscious on his part.
- He's obsessive about another culture, where your family history is, (Russia) because he's got a very deep need to self-identify with something. This is tying into his low self-esteem and social isolation.
Mentally, he's flirting with the mindset that the Columbine kids had. They felt so lost, outside, and like losers, that they deliberately identified with negative cultures and things in history. Harris and Klebold chose Hitler, your little brother is focusing in on the negative totalitarian aspects of Communism which has a tie in to your Russian family heritage. It's a way of saying "F'-it all…I quit! I'm one of the bad guys!" way of throwing in the towel on normal life in which he feels a failure, yet the violence and dominance in that evil/totalitarian culture has something that makes him feel empowered at the same time.
If it's a mild case, your little brother needs a broader social life and a girl, if it's worse, he needs some counseling/help/medication.
My anti-gun mother actually admitted to this in a roundabout way.
I bought my first handgun during my college years, and brought it home with me during a break. She flew off the handle when she found out, alternating between tears and fits of rage. "Where is it? Where are you keeping it? What if you lose your cool and then go grab your gun and start shooting at me or your brother or somebody else?"
The irony was a bit too rich. I tried to remind her of the fact that I had never even thrown a punch in anger during my adult life (my brother and I fought when we were kids, but who doesn't? Besides, we were already good friends by that point...), and the thought of picking up the gun in anything less than the most dire, life-threatening situations had never even crossed my mind. Nothing less than her demand that I sell it/dispose of it immediately would suffice. I simply handed it over to a very close friend (and fellow shooter) to hang onto for the duration of the break.
22-rimfire
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Wold of Warcraft may be the problem. He has a rather distorted view of the world grounded in fiction.
I do think he just needs time to grow up a bit. I don't pay much attention to bratty 16 year olds or bratty 5 year olds for that matter. 16 year olds want attention and if they are pains in the butt, I don't give it to them. I ignore them except at the basic levels... pass the salt please.... have you seen any peanut butter in the house? Where does Mom keep the beer? oops, that one just slipped....
Keep an eye on him. These are the types that did the Columbine thing. It's important.
I do think he just needs time to grow up a bit. I don't pay much attention to bratty 16 year olds or bratty 5 year olds for that matter. 16 year olds want attention and if they are pains in the butt, I don't give it to them. I ignore them except at the basic levels... pass the salt please.... have you seen any peanut butter in the house? Where does Mom keep the beer? oops, that one just slipped....
Keep an eye on him. These are the types that did the Columbine thing. It's important.
LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
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LOL SHUNG SOMETIMES I WISH!
But in all seriousness,
We don't have any heritage in Russia. He tried to make that up too, saying that we had a Russian ancestor to bolster his obsession.
I'd say that he has someone of a self esteem because for someone that has bleechy white skin and fat that think's he's sexy must be successful in his own mind...
Just this week, someone in another country broke into the police station with a knife and killed five or so wounding 4. He says, can you picture how much worse it'd be if you had guns in the picture?'
:sigh: it's getting to be too much, hehe.
But in all seriousness,
We don't have any heritage in Russia. He tried to make that up too, saying that we had a Russian ancestor to bolster his obsession.
I'd say that he has someone of a self esteem because for someone that has bleechy white skin and fat that think's he's sexy must be successful in his own mind...
Just this week, someone in another country broke into the police station with a knife and killed five or so wounding 4. He says, can you picture how much worse it'd be if you had guns in the picture?'
:sigh: it's getting to be too much, hehe.
LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
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If push comes to shove, I'll talk to my mother and let her know all the behaviour I've been seeing, and incorporate a lot of this into my discussion with her. Of course, I won't say where it's from, so that way she doesn't get any bad ideas, so. heh.
LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
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He sits on WoW all the time, completely blows off the family just to play the game...
Our grandfather has emphazema. We don't think he has that muchleft in him. We go to visit him frequently. Guess what he says before we leave?
"Can we get back quick so I can do this or this on Wow?"
Our grandfather has emphazema. We don't think he has that muchleft in him. We go to visit him frequently. Guess what he says before we leave?
"Can we get back quick so I can do this or this on Wow?"
LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
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Yeah, and then I'd make him get his own house, with his Rubles that are supposedly to him are worth more than the American dollar (which is somewhat believeable, our economy is faltering).
he needs professional help. have him see a shrink. he wont get anywhere for a few sessions... but i think he could finally come around.
if that doesnt work, beat his ass with a sock full of oranges or a phone book. neither leave bruises and both hurt like hell.
dont bother trying to "tell" him to do anything. that will get you no where. you have to MAKE HIM want to do the things you want... you need to pick your words carefully. i would just seek professional help. worst case, just plant some drugs on him and call the cops and call it a day. maybe prison will fix him.
if that doesnt work, beat his ass with a sock full of oranges or a phone book. neither leave bruises and both hurt like hell.
dont bother trying to "tell" him to do anything. that will get you no where. you have to MAKE HIM want to do the things you want... you need to pick your words carefully. i would just seek professional help. worst case, just plant some drugs on him and call the cops and call it a day. maybe prison will fix him.
LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
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Or grandpa only sees about twenty minutes of him whenhe does see him. It's pathetic how he does this to play his games.
Prison might just do the trick.
Prison might just do the trick.
LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
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Well it might teach him to keep his mouth shut.
IME
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As a poster said previously, it sounds like an unhealthy dose of immaturity combined with anti-social tendencies. Was he always like this? Has he ever been able to show empathy? Did he ever show affection to your parents? Was he able to comfortably accept affection being bestowed upon him?
In my line of work, I see a lot of this in today's "throw-away kids" -- that is to say, those kids who never learned social skills, and learned at a very young age that they didn't fit in and (at least in their own mind) will never fit in. It probably took a long time for him to get this way. It will probably take as much time to turn him around. You might want to see a counselor who deals with this type of behavior to get ideas on how to cope with his behavior and, perhaps, find common ground. Don't give up on your brother.
Whatever the case, I'd like to know what web-sites he's visiting, and who he's talking to online, when he's not playing WoW. I'd also use common sense about making sure your guns are secure -- just in case.
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In my line of work, I see a lot of this in today's "throw-away kids" -- that is to say, those kids who never learned social skills, and learned at a very young age that they didn't fit in and (at least in their own mind) will never fit in. It probably took a long time for him to get this way. It will probably take as much time to turn him around. You might want to see a counselor who deals with this type of behavior to get ideas on how to cope with his behavior and, perhaps, find common ground. Don't give up on your brother.
Whatever the case, I'd like to know what web-sites he's visiting, and who he's talking to online, when he's not playing WoW. I'd also use common sense about making sure your guns are secure -- just in case.
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