Here is the latest from a brief we received. I will not post the whole thing, I will not post a link to it (you would need an AKO login anyway and approved access).
Under the "Program developement slides" were these:
On the SCAR:
Increment (1) and (2) designated as 5.56mm / 7.62mm only. Increment (3) may address an “improved-lethality” round. This round is not tied to a specific caliber. Increment (3) Contract Modification or Sole Source J&A tentatively slated for Dec 2007.
SOCOM's current position IRT SCAR is that the 6.8mm round is not being considered in the “near” term.
On the OICW:
Increment I, slated to eventually replace the M16/M4 family of small arms and other weapon requirements (M203 Grenade Launcher, M249 Squad Automatic Weapon (SAW) and selected M9 Pistols) throughout the U.S. Army.
The CDD (Increment I) for this system calls for 5.56mm and 7.62mm only - no 6.8mm (The FN Herstal SCAR may compete to be the OICW in a future down-select process).
Increment II will address Lethal and Non-lethal HEAB (High Explosive Air Burst) munitions and an integrated day/night fire control system (Tentative FUE (First Unit Equipped): FY 2010).
No specific mention of 6.8mm requirement. Feedback from System Development and Demonstration (SDD) activities of Increment I will be shown as a requirement in the CDD update for Increment II
And right under that, on the XM-8:
Produced by H&K
May be a candidate for OICW
Not an exact quote, but his words were: "Many of you know the XM-8 is not going to be adpoted for the general Army use. It may be a contender for OICW use in the distant future."
He went on to talk about budget cuts, the Marines getting involved in the project and other related notes.
I really could not care less if you put any faith or credence in what I have told you. You really have no dog in the fight, and no vested interest in the program or issue of the weapons other than to bust my chops. Thats cool, I can handle that. I can also appreciate you wanting verification of what I put out. Other than going back and searching articles in the places I recommended or reading what rgrgordon had to say, this is as good as you are going to get from me. You just dont have a legitimate need for the info, and I am not going to give you access to info that came from official channels.
Like I said, I dont get even 1/20th of what comes out, and my info may not be the latest and greatest. But that's what I have, take it or leave it.
Under the "Program developement slides" were these:
On the SCAR:
Increment (1) and (2) designated as 5.56mm / 7.62mm only. Increment (3) may address an “improved-lethality” round. This round is not tied to a specific caliber. Increment (3) Contract Modification or Sole Source J&A tentatively slated for Dec 2007.
SOCOM's current position IRT SCAR is that the 6.8mm round is not being considered in the “near” term.
On the OICW:
Increment I, slated to eventually replace the M16/M4 family of small arms and other weapon requirements (M203 Grenade Launcher, M249 Squad Automatic Weapon (SAW) and selected M9 Pistols) throughout the U.S. Army.
The CDD (Increment I) for this system calls for 5.56mm and 7.62mm only - no 6.8mm (The FN Herstal SCAR may compete to be the OICW in a future down-select process).
Increment II will address Lethal and Non-lethal HEAB (High Explosive Air Burst) munitions and an integrated day/night fire control system (Tentative FUE (First Unit Equipped): FY 2010).
No specific mention of 6.8mm requirement. Feedback from System Development and Demonstration (SDD) activities of Increment I will be shown as a requirement in the CDD update for Increment II
And right under that, on the XM-8:
Produced by H&K
May be a candidate for OICW
Not an exact quote, but his words were: "Many of you know the XM-8 is not going to be adpoted for the general Army use. It may be a contender for OICW use in the distant future."
He went on to talk about budget cuts, the Marines getting involved in the project and other related notes.
I really could not care less if you put any faith or credence in what I have told you. You really have no dog in the fight, and no vested interest in the program or issue of the weapons other than to bust my chops. Thats cool, I can handle that. I can also appreciate you wanting verification of what I put out. Other than going back and searching articles in the places I recommended or reading what rgrgordon had to say, this is as good as you are going to get from me. You just dont have a legitimate need for the info, and I am not going to give you access to info that came from official channels.
Like I said, I dont get even 1/20th of what comes out, and my info may not be the latest and greatest. But that's what I have, take it or leave it.
:banghead: How do these guys stay in the military? Maybe because they cant cut it in the real world.... 
