Brady Campaign Board Member Gets CCW

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I'm looking for the payoff at the end when she realizes that it is just an object that did not cause her to go crazy, wasn't responsible for any mass shootings, and was not used against her by a criminal.

In my experience, most anti-gun folks positions are a result of ignorance. Sometimes when those folks become educated or informed -- usually through a trip to the range and some education about firearms safety -- they change their tune significantly.

Personally, I say good on her for going and buying it, regardless of her political motivations. She's exercising a Constitutional right, just like when people say things that we don't like or that offend us, or have a different faith than we do, etc.
 
Hacker15E said:
In my experience, most anti-gun folks positions are a result of ignorance. Sometimes when those folks become educated or informed -- usually through a trip to the range and some education about firearms safety -- they change their tune significantly.

Generally true, but this woman appears to be incredibly determined to cling to ignorance.
 
I took the time to write MS magazine in the rebuttle section, and surprise surprise it was taken down. I guess when you use logic and common sense to defeat her arguements that are emotion based they dont like that.
 
Generally true, but this woman appears to be incredibly determined to cling to ignorance.

Probably true -- but if any experience is going to impact her opinion, certainly owning a firearm and handling one is a significant first step.

It is an experience that could produce a different result than the "I would NEVER TOUCH A GUN!!! EVAR!!!!" people.

Either way, when this 30 days passes without catastrophe, even WITH her demonstrated ignorance, that goes a long way toward disproving the hypothesis/belief she is entering into this experiment with.
 
That level of stunning stupidity is breathtaking. I would laugh about it, then I am reminded that she votes (shudder).
 
Here's a thought.... I have them every once in while.

Lets run a few scenarios.

a) If something happens that threatens her life and she doesn't use the gun then maybe she will think twice. I doubt it but its a maybe and 'some one' will say "She should have used her gun/If she had a gun she could have possibly used it to prevent herself from being harmed."

b) If nothing happens, Well, then nothing happens and it can be used as fodder that guns aren't the cause of bad things and it didn't cause her to want to shoot someone.

c) If she happens to load it, it can be used as fodder that guns don't go off by them selves.

d) If she ends up saying it gave her urge to do harm to someone because she had a weapon, then it plays to the 'mental health issues' she must have


Regardless of what happens, the truth is in our favor and the truth is good.


The trick is, we must make sure that the truth is heard and not just a warped spin of it.
 
Ms. Magazine said:
Tony told me a Glock doesn’t have an external safety feature, so when I got home and opened the box and saw the magazine in the gun I freaked. I was too scared to try and eject it as thoughts flooded my mind of me accidentally shooting the gun and a bullet hitting my son in the house or rupturing the gas tank of my car, followed by an earth-shaking explosion. This was the first time my hands shook from the adrenaline surge and the first time I questioned the wisdom of this 30-day experiment.

I needed help.

Yes, ma'am, I believe you do. You are deliberately undertaking a dangerous act without any due diligence, and if you are injured, will blame it on the power tool you took absolutely no time to familiarize yourself with.

Ms. Magazine said:
The cop thought I was an idiot and suggested I take a class. But up to that point I’d done nothing wrong, nothing illegal.

So here I sit at Starbucks, and the irony couldn’t be thicker. On March 12, 2010, I was surrounded by big hairy men with guns on their hips

It's really sad that an publication masquerading as a reputable news sources and bastion of women's rights would publish something that paints a supposedly liberated, self-sufficient woman as an fearful, illogical, helpless, man-hating idiot, ignorant of the most basic scientific principles and incapable of rational discourse, and possessed of a belief her newly acquired firearm would somehow magically acquire ammunition and load itself.

John
 
I'm looking for the payoff at the end when she realizes that it is just an object that did not cause her to go crazy, wasn't responsible for any mass shootings, and was not used against her by a criminal.

That won't happen, in large part because the more I look at her article the more I think the whole thing was made up.

Wait a moment, Ms Magazine. She says she has a concealed weapon permit, for which she paid $56.50, which jives with her work in Idaho. In that case, she was required to demonstrate competence with the weapon, either thru taking a class, or being ex-military or law enforcement. (http://www.ag.idaho.gov/ - the attorney general's web site in ID.)
In another Ms Magazine article, it says her home is Washington State, as does http://gunvictimsaction.org/boards-of-directors/heidi-yewman-vancouver-washington/. The fee there is $52.50. If she made a simple typo, I'd accept it, but there's a waiting period in WA due to the background check (RCW 9.41.070).
Washington does not have reciprocity with Idaho so that's not an explanation of the discrepancy.

That along with the fact that the photo with the article doesn't look much like her but does look an awful lot like a stock ad photo for a holster ... :scrutiny:
 
Hacker15E said:
I'm looking for the payoff at the end when she realizes that it is just an object that did not cause her to go crazy, wasn't responsible for any mass shootings, and was not used against her by a criminal.

In my experience, most anti-gun folks positions are a result of ignorance. Sometimes when those folks become educated or informed -- usually through a trip to the range and some education about firearms safety -- they change their tune significantly.

Personally, I say good on her for going and buying it, regardless of her political motivations. She's exercising a Constitutional right, just like when people say things that we don't like or that offend us, or have a different faith than we do, etc.

Yeah, except her story has her doing none of that educated and informed business - by her own admission. She's wrote the story as someone choosing to live in fear and ignorance.

I'll write the payoff at the end for you right now -

She's going to discover some way to give this gun she says she apparently bought into the authorities. Either she'll donate it to a "gun buyback" for a $50 gift card to a grocery store, or she'll just surrender it to the police because she feels she can't handle the responsibility.


Hacker15E said:
Probably true -- but if any experience is going to impact her opinion, certainly owning a firearm and handling one is a significant first step.

It is an experience that could produce a different result than the "I would NEVER TOUCH A GUN!!! EVAR!!!!" people.

Either way, when this 30 days passes without catastrophe, even WITH her demonstrated ignorance, that goes a long way toward disproving the hypothesis/belief she is entering into this experiment with.


There are how many tens of millions of people who now possess a License to Carry/Carry Permit in the various states? 20 million? 30 million?


I frankly don't need her scared little girl story to tell me carrying a gun has become mainstream. Run the numbers on the viewers of American Idol, Someone Can Dance, or whatever pop culture show you want to name and you'll find that the numbers of permit/license holders exceed the weekly viewership of those t.v. shows.

And we've had how many problems as a result of it?

It's less than the number of people who even bought an autographed copy of her "look-at-me" drivel book.



I don't need Heidi Yewman to validate my right to carry a firearm on my person, going about my daily business. She belongs to a dying movement.


I still can't believe the bullwark magazine of the feminist movement let her have space to publish that "I'm-a-timid-little-girl" piece.


It leaves me to wonder how she deals with the monsters her children see in the closets at night.
 
No, he says to fire outside. Major Paine is the one with the mag dumps into the bogeyman.
 
I'd be happy to pay her $200 for her glock, holster, spare mags and ammo. After all, she really doesn't want it. Heck, if she don't mind, I've got $500 billion Zimbabwean dollars which I'd pay her.
 
I took the time to write MS magazine in the rebuttle section, and surprise surprise it was taken down. I guess when you use logic and common sense to defeat her arguements (sic) that are emotion based they dont like that.

I also posted a comment, but it says that it's awaiting moderation. Thing is, I made the comment two days ago and comments time stamped after mine have been posted. I won't hold my breath for it to be posted.

I'm sure there are some exceptions, but my experience is that extreme liberals are the least tolerant when it comes to opposing viewpoints.
 
SharpsDressedMan said:
Hmmm, I wonder if she unintentionally gets assaulted, accosted, attempted raped, etc, what she will do...................

The answer is obvious. She would rather pee on her attacker (actual advise from an anti) than use a firearm to protect herself. Out of principle.
 
I pasted this comment many days ago, it never showed up.

I believe that suppressing the comments you can't answer is called Reasoned Discourse (tm)

Your comment is awaiting moderation.

I am not impressed.

The nature of a free society of adults is in part that putative adults understand that power comes with responsibility, and that failing in their responsibilities comes with consequences. A sub tenant of this is the understanding that adults do not need a parent, be it actual or the proxy of the state to tell them this and enforce the matter.

In her eagerness to make her political point that her state does not put itself into the role of parent and enforce the minutia of responsible behavior, the author has immediately failed the 4th of her rules: ” be prepared to use it for protecting myself”, (In admitting she doesn’t even know how to administratively handle her sidearm she admits she is in no way prepared.) and has successfully become that which she rails against; an irresponsible gun owner.

She did not become an irresponsible gun owner by accident. She did it by design and specific intention, simply to prove that she could, and cry that no agent of the state would spring out and force her to take responsible action.

This is not a failure of the state, or of society. It is a failure of one person, the person acting irresponsibly, and that is the author.

We can only urge her to evolve from her irresponsible position and attain the competence necessary to actually be “the good guy with the gun” she *claims* she wants to be.
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Well, when all is said and done with her - so what?

The real question, the only one that really counts, based on her own attitude and "standards" will be, how many innocent people did she kill or wound with her gun?

If the answer is "none", then the whole premise she went into this "experiment" with failed.

If owning and carrying a gun every day, even if you are a totally untrained buffoon, resulted in harm to no one, what's left of the whole Brady premise?

If, heaven forbid, someone is actually injured by her, then she gets prosecuted by the police, per the laws and serves her time. I wonder if she'll blog from her cell?
 
DonP said:
The real question, the only one that really counts, based on her own attitude and "standards" will be, how many innocent people did she kill or wound with her gun?

If the answer is "none", then the whole premise she went into this "experiment" with failed.
Failed? No, I don't think so. You presume that she is interested in carrying out a rational exercise in good faith. I believe she is trying to reinforce a fearful reaction to guns in her intended audience.

From the article:

when I got home and opened the box and saw the magazine in the gun I freaked. I was too scared to try and eject it as thoughts flooded my mind of me accidentally shooting the gun and a bullet hitting my son in the house or rupturing the gas tank of my car, followed by an earth-shaking explosion. This was the first time my hands shook from the adrenaline surge and the first time I questioned the wisdom of this 30-day experiment.

If she can save one child, ONE CHILD, from an imaginary shooting, it will have been worth it. To say nothing of preventing imaginary earth shaking gas tank explosions and the appurtenant imaginary collateral damage. :rolleyes:
 
This lady has set the bar that much higher for 'profound idiocy.'

And I thought our Vice President was bad....
 
FWIW, Ms Blog will not post her three followup articles. :what:

Seems they claim to have been inundated with threatening posts from NRA Members, gun nuts, and other social effluvia. :rolleyes:

Of course, they posted none of these "threats" and my message offering free safety, marksmanship, and judgmental training on the off chance that she actually wanted to learn, was apparently among the socially unacceptable responses. :banghead::banghead::banghead::barf:

You can read about it on the last posts on the OP's original link.
 
And yet, she makes a point. There are ignorant, unsafe gun owners out there carrying. I've seen some myself. A responsible person would become proficient at gun safety before carrying, but there are a lotta irresponsible people out there.

Thomas Jefferson said:

“I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.”
 
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