Brady Campaign Board Member Gets CCW

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They're playing the "bully" card. Apparently, the NRA is out to get them!
 
Huh, I guess if people post comments that disagree with poor Heidi Yewman than that's "bullying"? The 1st Amendment grants freedom of speech, not freedom to not have your speech critisized.
 
The experiment will end up with a criminal who has read the article taking the gun away from her thus "proving" yet another bit of urban wisdom.

She has placed herself among the 1% of irresponsible firearms owners. She should try to live on a higher moral plane.
 
We're fierce.
We're feminists.
And were in your face!


Oops, nevermind. Excuse us while we go someplace else. A bunch of meanies bullied us off our own website.​

^^^^^

/BullfrogKen points and laughs/
 
Guns are rarely used in defense, that is why only really important people should have them. All but the most elite should be debarred the use of firearms for protection.
 
If you go to anti (legal) gun demonstrations, like Mayors Against Illegal (legal) Guns, then you will see lots, and lots of Heidi Yewmans there. She is the typical anti-gun loon, hippie wannabe feminist. I go to these rallies with a lot of other pro-gun, counter-protesters so the other side can be heard, and these people are norm of the opposition.
 
Forgive me if someone already posted this, but a critique of the article reveals that her facts do not add up. Such things as no course, the fees to acquire the license, background checks info do not reflect the laws of any one state.
 
v65magnafan said:
Forgive me if someone already posted this, but a critique of the article reveals that her facts do not add up. Such things as no course, the fees to acquire the license, background checks info do not reflect the laws of any one state.
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She is in WA.

No CPL course required.

CPL = ~$55 fee with background check (wait), including full fingie prints.

She says = "Getting the permit to carry a concealed weapon was simple. I filled out a form, had my fingerprints taken for a background check and paid $56.50. No training required. It took far longer to get my dog a license."

I'll bet she waited at least 2 weeks. I received mine 30 days or so.
 
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Can anyone from Vermont comment on whether they have observed issues from not having a training requirement (since they don't have a permit requirement)?
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Good Lord, I see people doing stupid things with firearms on a weekly basis here. And it is a training issue- the parents didn't teach their children to become adults. But that has absolutely Jackie O'Nothin' to do with firearms, does it? Or at least nothing to do with me or mine possessing firearms. And at the point one is willing to concede that, one is pretty much forced to concede that one is not in a position to judge the eligibility of another to exercise a Right.

But my general experience is that persons who take responsibility for themselves seriously to the point of carrying a firearm are rational about that decision and cognizant of the risks involved and the liability assumed. I can't see any reason to force such persons to jump through the hoops of the State. They already hold themselves to a higher standard than the State could enforceably require.

It's typically those who own firearms as acquisitive toys or as fingers poked in the eye of their political antagonists that display the worst safety habits. Or simply persons who have been raised along a declining curve of the Dunning-Kruger effect, which is generally a result of endemic poverty- the 'my daddy taught me slightly less than he knew about the handing of firearms, and that's a family tradition' school of generational decline.

So what is the answer to the above? I think (as the man says) 'Don't go to stupid places, and do stupid things, with stupid people.'
 
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If you go to anti (legal) gun demonstrations, like Mayors Against Illegal (legal) Guns, then you will see lots, and lots of Heidi Yewmans there. She is the typical anti-gun loon, hippie wannabe feminist. I go to these rallies with a lot of other pro-gun, counter-protesters so the other side can be heard, and these people are norm of the opposition.
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We must remember when we go to their rallies as counter-protesters we must be on our best behavior - much better behaved then they are. I went with a group to an anti-gun rally in Seattle. We open carried, like we always do. Some members of our group were more rude and obnoxious than the anti-gunners were. I was embarrassed to be associated with them.

One older lady came up to me afterward and commented that my group was the most rude obnoxious people she had ever seen. I told her, "Ma'am, I absolutely agree with you that SOME members of my group were rude and obnoxious, but is it really fair to judge an entire group by a couple of peoples actions? You are obviously not a rude and obnoxious person, but some people on your side of the debate are as well." She didn't get a chance to talk with me more because her daughter grabbed her by the arm and pulled her away, "Don't talk to those people mom." She looked like she wanted to stay and talk more. Point made, I guess.
 
NavyLCDR said:
We must remember when we go to their rallies as counter-protesters we must be on our best behavior - much better behaved then they are.
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Totally agree. I do not confront them, but we carry signs, and smile. They dwell on emotion, so to try to engage them in logical debate is futile.
 
We must remember when we go to their rallies as counter-protesters we must be on our best behavior - much better behaved then they are.
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I agree. Having said that, however, we're damned if we do, damned if we don't. If we're polite and avoid confrontation, we're "wingnuts who know their place." If we are confrontive, we're "bullies" who "threaten and intimidate." :banghead::banghead::banghead:
 
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I agree. Having said that, however, we're damned if we do, damned if we don't. If we're polite and avoid confrontation, we're "wingnuts who know their place." If we are confrontive, we're "bullies" who "threaten and intimidate." :banghead::banghead::banghead:
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But every once in a while, just maybe, and if we get lucky, we might meet one who can carry on a meaningful conversation. Then, being polite and nonconfrontational works. Being bullies is a dead end.

At least, that's my belief. Or maybe I just like planting my forehead against a brick wall.

Lost Sheep
 
Huffington Post was supposed to pick this piece up.

They reposted week #1 and went no further. I still think this is a made-up piece.


Either way, this story appears over.
 
It only makes sense. New paper, New crown reading so start over let's wait one more week too hear the lies

Another post tracked by the government.
 
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...ral-dangerous-coward-my-month-with-a-gun.html

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I'm curious about the number of people Ms. Yewman has killed or maimed during her experiment. How many people were injured or killed? After all, without one dead body, or one single scratch on an innocent person, Ms. Yewman will have successfully proven that even a person with out any training or mindfulness of firearm safety is perfectly harmless even when carrying a firearm in public places. What? No bodies? No lines of maimed children in hospital emergency rooms? Wow. I guess we can conclude that an inexperienced person without an inkling of a clue about firearms safety can carry a firearm everywhere without causing harm to anyone. Ms. Yewman has successfully proven this result, herself. If someone who intentionally ignores firarms safety advice can do so without hurting anyone, guns in the hands of 99% of people who choose to recieve more training than the author must be pretty safe.
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Heidi Yewman said:
It’s a convenient fantasy that anyone carrying a gun will stop a shooting. In late 2009, four cops were sitting in a coffee shop just south of Seattle—all of them were fully armed and wearing bulletproof vests. A man walked in and shot and killed them all.
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A man who never should have been out of prison in the first place (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Clemmons). The guy was a career criminal who was doing life, until Gov Huckabee in his infinite wisdom decided to commute the guy's sentence down so he could get out on parole. The guy was out on bond for another crime when he opened fire in that coffee shop just on the other side of McChord AFB from where I live. At least WA LE killed him when they caught up to him, otherwise the politicians might have let him out of jail again. :rolleyes:

Our criminal "justice" system is broken, if Heidi Yewman honestly wants to do something about "gun violence" she should start there.
 
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Well, there wasn't a comments section in this article. She was angry that somebody tried to post her address. I guess eye for an eye didn't feel too good. The part where she was in the parking garage had a simple solution. Slow down, relax, step aside and let him pass.
I was asked a question in a training session, "What do you do to prepare yourself before you go out on the town?" First the guys answered then the girls. I was surprised how much fear women walk around with.

Another post tracked by the government.
 
The follow-up article makes me want to scream! "Should she point the gun at the plumber to get a tactical advantage?" Are you kidding me?!

Leaving a gun unattended in her purse at a children's birthday party?!

I can't even come up with a response to this. Her level of paranoia leads me to believe that she needs a mental health check.
 
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