BULLETS with serial numbers?!?

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LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - California's attorney general wants to crack down on gun violence by laser-branding all handgun bullets sold in the state with tiny identification numbers nearly invisible to the naked eye.

The controversial proposal could open the way for the next major debate over gun control in California, a state that already has some of the toughest such laws in the United States.

Attorney General Bill Lockyer is expected to discuss his proposal at a meeting on gun crime on Thursday with Los Angeles Mayor Jim Hahn and a citizens group, an aide said on Wednesday.

Under the plan, all ammunition sold in California would have a serial number etched by laser on the bullet and casing. Bullets without such micro-markings, including those from outside the state, would be barred by law, with some exceptions for sport shooters who make their own ammunition.

No other U.S. state requires microscopic identification numbers to be etched on bullets, although similar technology is used to brand airplane and auto parts, backers of the proposal said.

"We think this is a very valid idea that could solve crimes quickly," said Hallye Jordan, a spokeswoman for Lockyer, one of the state's leading Democrats.

"It's something that the cops going to a crime scene involving shooting victims, once they recover the spent cartridge or bullets they can look at it right there," she said. "We have a database where they can put the number right in and then drive to the person's house whose bullets they were."

Paul Curry, a lobbyist for Ammunition Coding System, a Washington-state based firm that developed the bullet etching system, said the requirement would add about 1 cent to the cost of each bullet sold.

Ammunition manufacturers have so far resisted the technology, but he predicted that they would "race to see who can be first to market" if California mandated them to license ACS' technology.

Political consultant Chris Lehane said Democrats who control California's legislature would likely be receptive to the proposal when they resume session in January. "I think given the politics of the state it makes a lot of sense," Lehane said.

Gun rights advocates pledged to fight the proposal, saying it would be easy for gang members and criminals to find unmarked ammunition and create a costly state bureaucracy.

California's Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger angered gun-rights advocates when he signed a bill last month banning the powerful .50 caliber rifles used by military snipers.

A spokesman for governor could not be immediately reached for comment on Lockyer's proposal.
 
with some exceptions for sport shooters who make their own ammunition.
Nothing prevents criminals from reloading you know... And what makes them think that just because they outlaw any other ammunition, criminals won't still get it. THEY ARE CRIMINALS! HELLO!!!

Greg
 
Guns will never be banned. It will simply become so expensive and confusing to own them, that no one will.

Some firearms are already banned in the People's Republic of California. More are being added to the list. More will be added to the list. This and assorted other encroachments of the right to keep and bear arms will be passed into law. More firearms will be prohibited.

Only the cops and criminals will be armed. There are a lot more criminals than cops, who sometimes solve crimes, but never prevent them.

One more step on the road to socialist utopia.
 
So let me get this straight:

They are going to place a S/N on every bullet.

They are going to place a S/N on every casing, even those which are for revolvers.

They are going to register every round sold.

They are going to place the S/N on an area of the bullet that will not be destroyed by deformation, striations, or fragmentation.

Right?

The gang members and other criminals will go to any firing range and pick up brass that has been left there by some poor schlub.

The perp will scatter the casings at his crime scene to confuse the cops.

The cops will raid the home of the poor schlub, killing him, thus compounding the crime.

The police will hold a press conference disavowing all responsibility for killing the poor schlub and state that they are continuing the investigation to ascertain the role of the poor schlub in the original crime.

When the perp is caught, he will be charged for the murder of the poor schlub.

The cops will pat themselves on the back on what a good job they did in solving the murder of the poor schlub.

The press will hail the cops as heroes and praise the S/N program as a smashing success.

Justice has, once again, been served in America.

HCI will toast the success of still one more "gun safety" program.

Tom Mauser will hold a press conference hailing the California program as a "good first step" for every state in America; and he will start a petition to place a proposition on the ballot in CO in tribute to his dead son.

Carolyn McCarthy will give a speech on the house floor citing this program as the program that would have prevented the death of her husband if it had been in effect on that fateful night.

Did I miss anything?
 
jimpeel:

...Advocates of the law will say this doesn't affect the rights of hunters to own "sporting firearms".
If you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to fear.
And, after all, ( all together now!) "IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN!!!":banghead:
 
What do you suppose a box of 500 Federal .22lr's would cost after somebody 'engraved' and registered a unique serial number on each round?
Jimpeel has got it right.
 
I wonder how they plan to go about registering shotgun pellets? Standard 00 Buck has 9 pellets per round, birdshot has hundreds per round . . .
 
This gets more and more expensive.

Now I'm going to have to buy a microscope to scrutinize every cartridge, so I'll know where to scrape it with my pocketknife. I ask you, what's that gonna do to the accuracy of yer ammo?

In other news, I seem to recall reading on the Net somewhere that the new $50 bills automatically connect with new photocopiers to give you a nanny notice when you attempt to copy them.
 
I sure hope they put in a provision that prevents me from selling my reloaded ammo to my buddies. If they don't, I am going to have to quit my job and make $100,000 a year off of my Dillon RL 550B! Please, oh please don't do that! :evil:
 
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