CCW holder shows poor judgement

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Jeff22

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Yesterday I was returning home from a trip out west with my Dad.

We were fueling up in Dakota, Minnesota and there was some goof walking around wearing a blue t-shirt that said "keep calm & carry guns" and the bottom of his holster was sticking out below his shirt. Couldn't for sure tell what kind of gun or holster combination he was employing but it wasn't well concealed.

Being an attention whore is always tactically stupid. And such behavior is offensive to more responsible people. Carrying concealed means "concealed".
 
But was that poor judgment or a political / awareness statement?

Was his behavior in any way disrespectful or obnoxious? Was he intentionally trying to upset anyone? Cause a scene? Or was he just going about his business?

Last I checked we have other rights besides the 2nd amendment. There's a first amendment, too. :)
 
Yup. The sooner people realize that "oh it's OK for civilians to be armed for self-defense", the better off we'll all be. It *needs* to be a mainstream mentality.

Heavens forbid you ever drive by my house when I'm out gardening in the front yard.

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Tactically, yeah, not the best. Some laws will get you caught up for such things. But, as some have said here, the sooner we can get an armed populace into the realm of normal, the better.
 
Being an attention whore is always tactically stupid.

Yep. You'll find some here like drawing unnecessary attention to themselves, though. I'm mature and have self confidence, so I don't see a need to do that.
 
Posted by Jeff22: Being an attention whore is always tactically stupid.
Making it known that you have a firearm can sometimes lead to difficulties, but in some cases it can be a good thing.

I choose to not do so.

And such behavior is offensive to more responsible people.
It is offensive to some people, and that can hurt our cause. It would not offend me.

Carrying concealed means "concealed".
Unless I am mistaken, the incident occurred in an open carry state.
 
Being an attention whore is always tactically stupid. And such behavior is offensive to more responsible people. Carrying concealed means "concealed".
I find it offensive that you would prefer the tactically unsound practice of appearing unarmed. Why would you rather look unable to defend yourself? Is it so you can lure some punk robber in close so you get the thrill of shooting him? Do you stand in front of a mirror and practice your clever lines? "Surprise punk! Now you're gonna eat my lead!"

Yeah, sarcasm and hyperbole in one post.

The difference between the stupid I posted above and yours is that I don't really believe it.
 
The dude was wearing a t-shirt with a pro-gun tagline AND happen to be carrying with a bit of his holster showing? Yeah, so like what's the problem? Was he being irresponsible in any way?
 
Yup. The sooner people realize that "oh it's OK for civilians to be armed for self-defense", the better off we'll all be. It *needs* to be a mainstream mentality.

Heavens forbid you ever drive by my house when I'm out gardening in the front yard.

Trent!

Beware there seems to be a long haired, shirtless man carrying a gun in your front yard!;)
 
An offense taken is not necessarily an offense given.

Your descriptions, "some goof walking around," and "attention whore," may say more about you than him...

but then I'm from Minnesota somewhere too, near the Interstate...

but I don't own any blue T-shirts.
 
And such behavior is offensive to more responsible people.

If only we could just make those things offensive to us disappear.
No more windmills, Prius cars and Chicago Politicians/Community Organizers in the world.
What a wonderful place it would be.
Oh and that pesky liberal college in Madison.
 
It doesn't offend me when I see someone open carrying or "oops" concealed carrying. I make a little game out of it to see if I can identify what they are carrying based on what little I can see. The other day at Wal-Mart I saw someone carrying a Kobra carry, nice weapon. I am sure if someone looked close enough they could see a bulge under my shirt of my larger weapons. My shirts don't advertise. I think the most pro gun shirt I have is one that has a dirty AR on the front that says "My Carbon Footprint."
 
I might be mistaken, but I think Jeff22 was referring to the choice of clothing, i.e. the T-shirt that said "Keep Calm and Carry Guns". I don't think it's appropriate to wear attire like that out in public.

I have plenty of T-shirts with cool graphics and sayings from a lifetime spent in the Army and in Law Enforcement. I wear them on the range, at training session, but not out where someone might think I am an armed wise guy or still a working cop.

There have been plenty of threads here and in GGD discussing not wearing the CCW "uniform", i.e. fanny packs, photographer's vests, 5.11 pants. Personally I think one blends in better wearing those things then wearing gunny or cop T-shirts.

Personally I always try to dress the way the others doing the activity I am engaged in are dressed. That way you don't stand out and draw the wrong kind of attention. Just good tactics.

I had a rather comical experience some years ago at one of Pat Rogers Carbine Courses in Lebanon, IN at the Boone County Sheriffs Office.

It was the end of the first day on the range and I was back in my motel room. I always took enough loaded magazines to get me through a day of class so that during breaks, while everyone else was stuffing magazines, I was actually taking a break.

Anyway it's about 1730 I'm sitting on the floor between the beds in my room loading magazines. On the bed were my two M4s and My Kimber Warrior. I'm wearing khaki 5.11a and a black GemTech T shirt with a picture of a suppressed M249 SAW on it. The door to the room opens and I jump up reaching for my pistol. A couple who had just checked in were mistakenly given my room because when I checked in the day before the clerk put one night instead of 3 in the computer.

I can only imagine what they must have though when they came into the room. There was this guy 6'2", 250 pounds, wearing a T shirt with a machine gun on it and khaki cargo pants, with weapons, standard capacity magazines and ammunition all over the room.

I would love to have a photo of the look on their faces when they walked in. Humorous now, but I'm sure the combination scared them to death initially.
 
Thanks for the insight, Mr. Holier than Thou.

Maybe he's like me and feels that "covered" is sufficient for most situations.
 
I get what you're saying OP. Being a billboard that you have a gun isn't the most tactful move.

I get what the other posters are saying too. Freedom of speech and breaking the negative gun stigma in the general public. Also a lesson in being non-judgemental.
 
Posts like #23 above are the only reason this thread is still open. The unedited/undeleted bad examples are still there as object lessons as well.

Y'all don't forget where you are while waxing rhetorical, please. This is still THR...
 
I don't see what the problem is personally.

I have an NRA t shirt and a molon labe t shirt that I frequently wear in public. Of course most non-gun enthusiasts have no clue what the latter means.
 
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