I have another post about a dsa STG 58 fn-fal I just put on layaway , but as I read the STG58 is built off surplus parts and the truly brand new rifle from top to bottom is the SA 58, I dont think I can get them to tranfer the balance to something else because this will be the most expensive firearm I have ever bought and dont want to make a 1100 dollar mistake, i dont make millions but I work hard to have nice things, let me know what you think?
did I just make a expensive mistake?
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RobTzu
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Well, how important is "new" to you? A STG is a fine weapon. It will be worth the money, but only you know if it not being built from the ground up is a deal breaker.
I have been Instructed say away from century,So I thught DSA was top of the line ?
I have thought all there rifles were built from the ground up as new, and I like thing that I can trust , used doesnt mean bad , but I just guess I prefer new but what am I gaining with a STG instead of a SA what am I losing?sorry for the spelling
I have thought all there rifles were built from the ground up as new, and I like thing that I can trust , used doesnt mean bad , but I just guess I prefer new but what am I gaining with a STG instead of a SA what am I losing?sorry for the spelling
DSA is top of the line. The only difference is that the STG line is built on former Austrian service rifle parts, with the needed US parts added. They also replace any Austrian part that isn't up to snuff. That is why there is a difference in price between the 100% DSA made and these STG's.
The DSA STG is one of the best FAL rifles out there.
BTW, it looks like DSA is using an American barrel now on the STGs.
Don't forget to get some additional mags.
The DSA STG is one of the best FAL rifles out there.
BTW, it looks like DSA is using an American barrel now on the STGs.
Don't forget to get some additional mags.
I had a STG 58 that I bought as a parts kit, meaning everything was there but the original receiver was demilled (cut in half) So I got a receiver from Enterprise Inc. then sent the whole thing back to them to have them put it all back together. Long story short I had $1100 in it by the time I had a shootable rifle. The Stg-58s are made by Styer in Germany or maybe Austria but nevertheless Styer is renouned for their quality workmanship. My STG 58 was no exception. At the time money was tight and I sold it for $1700. If I could have I would have liked to keep it. It was a fine example of an FN-FAL. I'm sure the one you end up with will be to your satisfaction. $1100 sounds about right.
cracked butt
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I'm not 100% up to speed with FALs but surplus parts are often times bteer than newly manufactured parts because they were held to tighter specifications and no shortcuts were taken in manufacture. A prime example of this is with the M1A- some people will go to great lengths to replace SPringfield inc parts with GI parts for reliability.
USSR
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datruth,
So, would you be disappointed if you made a down payment on a Chrysler and then found out that it was built using some new, but leftover Mercedes parts? Trust me, you are getting top-of-the-line parts in your DSA Stg-58, and will not be disappointed in the least.
Don
So, would you be disappointed if you made a down payment on a Chrysler and then found out that it was built using some new, but leftover Mercedes parts? Trust me, you are getting top-of-the-line parts in your DSA Stg-58, and will not be disappointed in the least.
Don
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Wolfgang2000
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I have a Enterprise STG 58 FAL. I love it. DSA has a good reputation, I don't think they will be trashing it any time soon.
IIRC DSA bought Austria's STG 58 complete tool works and parts when they started up. So basicly any FAL they make is a STG 58.
IIRC DSA bought Austria's STG 58 complete tool works and parts when they started up. So basicly any FAL they make is a STG 58.
RSVP2RIP
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I have one of their STG-58A and it is great. The barrel was chromelined but looked unfired, so it was an original Austrian barrel. It shoots under an inch once you get used to the trigger which is heavy and gritty.
TexasRifleman
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You didn't make a mistake. So what if some new surplus parts were used.
Genuine new FAL parts on your FAL copy would not be a bad thing would it?
Think about that for a sec
Genuine new FAL parts on your FAL copy would not be a bad thing would it?
Think about that for a sec
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Mortonspoint
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DSA are fine guns in whatever configuration you choose. There STG is super!
iamkris
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Most of the StG58s built by DSA are using surplus NEW/UNISSUED parts.
You have to understand the history of DSA. They were in the AR parts buisness wanted to get into the FAL parts business. They contacted Steyr who was stopping production of StG for Austria.
They struck a deal to acquire a whole warehouse full of unused parts, waiting to be built, all the machinery and the blueprints.
What you are getting from DSA is an almost 100% new, unfired rifle...many of the parts just happened to have been manufactured 30-40 years ago. The are NOTHING like a Century, or other gunsmith built gun on a surplus kit...with parts that have seen most of their service life expended. Mine was perfect in every regard.
Think about it this way...if someone tried to sell you a unissued, unfired Garand, would you reject it because it wasn't newly manufactured?
You have to understand the history of DSA. They were in the AR parts buisness wanted to get into the FAL parts business. They contacted Steyr who was stopping production of StG for Austria.
They struck a deal to acquire a whole warehouse full of unused parts, waiting to be built, all the machinery and the blueprints.
What you are getting from DSA is an almost 100% new, unfired rifle...many of the parts just happened to have been manufactured 30-40 years ago. The are NOTHING like a Century, or other gunsmith built gun on a surplus kit...with parts that have seen most of their service life expended. Mine was perfect in every regard.
Think about it this way...if someone tried to sell you a unissued, unfired Garand, would you reject it because it wasn't newly manufactured?
If you are talking about a DSA STG-58 I wouldn't worry any more about it. I can't imagine any situation where I'd consider the $1100 spent on one of them a mistake. They're excellent rifles and I'm planning to try to buy another one if I get enough of a tax refund.
I am 99% sure they would transfer your deposit if you ask them before the rifle ships.
Even if you buy the "new" rifle you will shoot it, and it will become used. I believe the STG's are refinished, it will appear new.
I wouldn't worry about the STG, but if you are, call them and transfer the money. Yeah, it's a lot of money, but if you actually get what you want, it'll be worth it.
Even if you buy the "new" rifle you will shoot it, and it will become used. I believe the STG's are refinished, it will appear new.
I wouldn't worry about the STG, but if you are, call them and transfer the money. Yeah, it's a lot of money, but if you actually get what you want, it'll be worth it.
iamkris
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I have an EoTech on my Para now...
...but there is no reason to limit a 7.62 to CQB distances...therefore I'm switching to this optic soon to be ordered from Midway. Millett DMS-1 1.5-4x with circle-dot illuminated reticle.
...but there is no reason to limit a 7.62 to CQB distances...therefore I'm switching to this optic soon to be ordered from Midway. Millett DMS-1 1.5-4x with circle-dot illuminated reticle.
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We just got in a pair of STG-58s and an SA-58 in the shop the other day, and I can honestly say that I cannot tell any difference in the quality between the two. They both look brand-spanking-new inside and outside.
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Strongly Recommended:
- Ammo. Good, quality, noncorrosive surplus or new production (non-Wolf). And piles of it.
- Magazines.
- Boresnake and cleaning kit
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