Discovery Channel Top 10 Combat Rifles...no Mosin...do you think it's fair??

[NWCP]

The Mosin Nagant was successful primarily due to the sheer number of soldiers carrying it. Stalin was able to throw millions of troops into battle and accepted losses without batting an eye. The list reflects the personal preferences of the site members as much as the success of the battle rifles. I'm surprised the Garrand didn't place higher than it did.

 

[GRIZ22]

There is nothing innovative or unique about the Mosin Nagant other than it was used a long time by a lot of people.

I don't agree with a few of those picks they did on this show or some of their criteria but agree the Garand, AK, M16, and FAL belong at the top. Order depends on personal preference.

 

[RX-178]

RX - 178, what units or nations still use the M1 Carbine?

As I recall, Israeli police still issue it to non-combat units. They tried to replace it, then went back to it, and are supposed to be converting them with a bullpup stock. Still the M1 Carbine though.

It's used by just about every police, security agency, paramilitary and militia force in the Philippines. I don't get that one, really. Some of these guys get great toys like G36 rifles and P90s, but the guy next to him is using an M1 Carbine.

 

[Snakum]

Hey, the Steyer is on the list so you know it's bogus.

 

[Slamfire]

I saw the show and am of the opinion that it had a bias towards American weapons. I do not agree that the M1903 was one of the best battle rifles ever. More M1917’s were used in WWI, and I consider the M1917 a better battle rifle. The primary reason the 03 was kept in front line status after WWI was the need to protect the General’s billet at Springfield Arsenal.

If the 03 is on the list, then also should be the Nagant, Arisaka, Mannlicher 1895 (3 million made), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steyr-Mannlicher_M1895, and a host of other odd ball rifles.

I do think the M14 is the best 308 semiautomatic military weapon I have used, but its limited service life is a problem.

One rifle I think should be on the list is the G3. The G3 is still a front line service rifle, the Pakistani’s are still making the thing apparently. The list of nations who adopted it is impressive, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_&_Koch_G3, right up there with the FAL.