Do you ever get silly requests from non-gun owners?

[Zundfolge]

I just remembered something that happened when I told a co-worker I carried.


He's an ex-state trooper who is a 100% believer in CCW (and gun rights in general) ... only reason he hasn't got his license yet is lack of funds.

I know he wants to CCW and when he gets his permit he'll be like me and CCW 24/7/365.


First time we were talking about CCW and I told him I carried his knee-jerk response was; "what, you paranoid or something?"

It seemed like this seemingly automatic response caught himself off guard ... I think he was surprised that he even thought it, let alone said it.


Its amazing how deep the anti-gun conditioning is in our culture ... its even more amazing that we haven't completely lost our RKBA.

 

[espanola]

A neigbor saw me coming in from hunting one evening and talked about it, what I hunted, what with, etc. All they knew I had was a 7mm.
Some months later, I was asked to come shoot a mouse in his house because they'd seen John Wayne do it in "True Grit"...
Kinda wish I had done it...

 

[leadcounsel]

I briefly dated a co-worker woman once. A year or so later she had a bad breakup with some guy she labeled as "having a very secretive job with the military, probably a special ops guy, big, possibly violent type."

She said she was scared of him after their break up and wanted me to bring my gun over and sleep on her couch for a few nights.

Obviously I passed.

Nothing happened with her and her ex after that.

 

[EddieCoyle]

Its amazing how deep the anti-gun conditioning is in our culture ... its even more amazing that we haven't completely lost our RKBA.

This is especially true in an anti-gun state. This is also the reason why I proselytize the way I do and live with the consequences. I figure if I can turn an anti or a fence-sitter into a responsible shooter, I will have done way more to preserve the RKBA than somebody that skulks around, hiding the fact that they're a gun owner, only to emerge on the Internet to wishfully post in every tin-foil-hat-SHTF thread.

I'm not afraid of somebody stealing my guns, I don't care what irrational anti's think of me, and I'm willing to patiently answer questions, dispel myths, and put up with the occasional ignorant comment or request.

Well, usually I'm patient. Here's one that happened today:

I work with a guy that I'll describe as a Corporate Remora - He's lazy, and has nothing creative or productive to offer. He attaches himself to people that are more productive and survives by living off their scraps. He's also in Year 5 of a seemingly endless midlife crisis. First he got the sports car, then the silk shirts, pinky ring, hair implants, and last week - the dental veneers.

I'm talking big, giant, enormous dental veneers. I mean, he left work one day with teeth that looked like a mouthful of Kandy Korn, and showed up the next day with a blinding white set of Bobby Kennedy teeth.

I was giving a presentation in a meeting today, with clients and out-of-town executives present. My boss and I were discussing a point when Remora pipes up with, "Don't get him mad, he'll come back with a bunch of guns and shoot everybody". I looked him square in the eye and said, "That's really dumb. Saying that I'll shoot somebody because I own guns is like saying that you'll bite somebody because you bought those huge stick-on Chiclets."

He was quiet the rest of the meeting.

P.S. - When I take a newbie shooting for the first time, I always buy the ammo. The second time, I'll make sure we stop at a shop on the way to the range to buy ammo. In every case, the person with me has offered to pay. If it ever happens that I don't get an offer to pay or at least chip in, I won't take that person a third time.

 

[razorburn]

Honestly I've lost all patience with antis and treat them the same as I treat anti-semites or other racists.

"I have not patience for your bigotry, now go away."


Seriously, if someone said of one of their black co-workers "You don't want to piss Bob off or he'll get all crazy and start shooting all the white people." or of a gay co-worker "Don't bend over in front of Bob or you might get a surprise!" there are plenty of companies that would consider those fireable offenses.

To play devils advocate, when did boys who like guns or boys who like boys become a race? Only the black example is about race, the others are discriminating based off of personality traits.

 

[Crosshair]

I have a dip co-worker that keeps asking me to show him how to make full-auto guns. I always tell him to get lost. Many people would love to see someone kick his arse. Not many people like him.

 

[Dmack_901]

I got a "silly" demand by a gun owner, but I really wasn't expecting it at a gun show. After seeing a gentleman check out a pair of older berretta pistols, I thought I'd take a peak too. They appeared to be the same age, but one was more worn than the other, and I wondered how much that would affect their price. Apparently though, 18 year olds can't have legal intentions when it comes to looking at handguns. The owner decided to get slightly agitated complaining, "How old are you?", "You can't even buy a handgun", "Don't touch that."

I understad that most people don't understand the whole, 18 year-old handgun "loophole", but that's beside the point. I was just looking at the thing. I wasn't waving it around, or trying to walk off with it. Just fliping it over to check their seriel numbers for age difference. I guess there're people like that everwhere.

 

[Byron Quick]

If one of my friends thinks they need me for extra security...I'll be there. But what that really means is I'm real careful about who my friends are.

My sister had a guy break her door down and rush into the living room. She rushed into the living room also. From the kitchen. With a humongous meat cleaver and a butcher knife that would put a short sword to shame, screaming,"What are you doing in my living room? You *&*, you broke my door!" Man was last seen doing an Olympic class 400 meter run. The police asked her how she got the invader to leave. After she showed them, their response was,"I don't blame him, lady, I would have left, too."

Another night she woke up and looked out the window at her shed. Two men had broken the lock and were wheeling her lawn mower off. She met them at the corner of the house with her BHP to ask where they were going with her blankety-blank lawn mower. After making them put the lawn mower back up and leave money for the broken padlock, she told them she was going to count to ten before she started firing. There are very long sight distances in most directions from her backyard. Another Olympic class sprint ensued.

My friends have their own guns. My women friends have their own guns. Most of the people at work have their own guns. Don't associate with people who don't own guns and you won't have these types of problems. Same with pickup trucks. Even my computer guy is a gun guy,too.

Simplify your life.

 

[ugaarguy]

In addition to guns, I own cars (which are worth way more than guns) but I keep my car ownership secret. I hide them in garages and only drive them in the middle of the night when no one can see me. I walk or ride a bicycle to work because I have to keep my cars hidden. Otherwise someone will, you know, steal them. That's why I keep it a secret. Clothes too. I have lots of them.

Eddie, the clothes comment at the end of that almost sent rum & Coke spewing out of my nostrils onto the keyboard.

 

[Fleetwing1627]

The same girl asked my roommate if the fraternity he was joining (Kappa Kappa Psi) had anything to do with the KKK because it had two Ks in it.

One of my former roommates, who was black, used to joke about me being in the Kappa Kappa Clan (KKPsi, national honorary band fraternity).

 

[Happy]

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The same girl asked my roommate if the fraternity he was joining (Kappa Kappa Psi) had anything to do with the KKK because it had two Ks in it.

One of my former roommates, who was black, used to joke about me being in the Kappa Kappa Clan (KKPsi, national honorary band fraternity).

It's not every day you have your fraternity (especially when it's the National Honorary Fraternity for College Bandmembers) mentioned on THR.

When/Where'd you pledge? Spring '96 - Georgia Tech here.

I've heard of incidents in the past where a jacket obscured the psi so the brother would be walking around with the two Ks showing and the third letter left to the imagination. Usually didn't result in anything, but one guy got thrown against a wall until they figured out their mistake.
This perception saddens me a lot because we have chapters at HBCUs (Morehouse, Clark Atlanta, Morris Brown, Tuskeegee, Florida A&M to name a few) and I have several very good friendships as a result.

Back on topic:
I haven't had too many stupid questions asked to me. I've asked plenty myself. (It's the only way I learn.) The worst thing I see is all of the misinformation that's out there. The video of the lady talking about the 50 BMG incendiary rounds cooking the deer makes me sigh and shake my head.
Most of my coworkers are former military, avid gun enthusiasts, or don't care either way. There are a lot of fun conversations in the hall ways.

 

[Stormin n]

Almost had a deer hit my truck one night. Instead it jumped in front of the oncoming minivan, breaking its back leg(s?) and crawling off the road. Stopped to render aid, and called the sheriff. The lady and kids in the car were upset that bambi got hit and was suffering. They were pretty busy at the call center (911) and the operator asked me if I had a gun in the car, could I just shoot it (out in the counrty part of the county, foothills outside of Denver). I was hesitant and reminded the operator that that would be hunting out of seaason with out a licence, besides, I did not want to answer the part about "gun in car". She eventually agreed and sent a deputy to put down the deer. 12 ga, 4 shots from about 30 feet, over two minutes, aftre 30 minute wait. Wish i would have shot it myself.

 

[The Grand Inquisitor]

Sometimes gun owners are just as bad. for instance, the gun store in which I buy most of my stuff has some real odd birds coming in (Iowa City, Iowa) that just come in, ask for something very obscure, and then get really mad when the weapon isn't in stock. Case in point, a few months ago a guy came in, and asked if the store had any Siamese Mausers, they didn't, any the guy got a little mad and then said, "what the hell? Navy Arms imported a bunch of them back in the 80's and I remember when they were everywhere. You call this a gun shop?" And then he stormed out.

Also, I was at the range once when a group of art students from the University (University of Iowa) came to the range and went along the line asking if they could take pictures of them. The other two groups told them they would club them if they pointed their camera's at them, but because I'm a student, I was a little more open to what they were going through (I'm in Religious Studies, and I've done some studies of radical and marginalized religious groups and just walking up to people and asking to attach yourself, a total stranger, to something that is deeply personal to them is very difficult).

I told them I might be open to what they were doing, but I wasn't real big on being photographed myself, and they first wanted to take a shot on some of my carry cases with the rifles slightly out, and to this one I said OK (I made very sure that the rifles were barely visable and that no identifing makers could be seen). I asked what motif they were going for, and the lead guy mumbled off something about America being at war with itself (I'm assuming he wanted to be coy because he figured I was a right wing fascist maniac...like all gun owners are...of course).

I tend to dismiss most of what modern artists say and do, so I let that go, but next he wanted to use my Steyr so that he could have his "model" (a skinny black kid) pose with it in suicide positions. That was totally out of the question...especially because he insited that the pistol be loaded. Much to my surprise, another young guy who had just come and was watching nearby chirped in and let him do this with his new pistol. In this case a brand new Taurus .44 Mag revolver.

At this point I was very frightened because they insisted that he revolver be loaded and the hammer back and I knew how light revolver triggers are with the hammer back. Because I didn't want to be around if this kid splattered his brains all over the range rules sign, I began to get my stuff and leave, but they wanted one last shot from me.

The main photog wanted to stand about 35 yards down range and snap shots with his camera to try and get the muzzle flashes.

Being totally amazed with how stupid everything had become, I just shook my head and left, but as far as I know, the other guy obliged him ("...just aim away from me...").


As far as I know, thankfully, nothing tragic ever happened that day, but had anything happened, I know that there would have been a huge fall-out against gun and gun owners, and no mention of the fact that a group of art students had practically been asking for a deadly mistake to happen.

 

[Croyance]

Why didn't you tell the range officer or the operators of the range what they were doing? Aiming a loaded gun at a person or being down range are against almost every rule. In most places, a gun that is loaded and not in a lane while pointed downrange is also against the rules.
People can be stupid on their own time. If anything had happened, you would have been down one more place to shoot - between the investigation time, publicity, and the lawsuits by the grieving family members costing the owners too much.

 

[TallPine]

a few months ago a guy came in, and asked if the store had any Siamese Mausers

Let me guess... those are the rifles with the twin barrels, right ...?

Actually, I have seen a Siamese Mouser

 

[pete f]

One friend used to tell his wife to call me if there was any trouble when he was on the road, As I would show up faster and be better armed than the cops. (he was right in that case).

I had a neighbor insist it was illegal for me keep guns in my house. She was positive that was the law, even after calling the cops and being told otherwise, she refused to believe that. Several months after she moved in, her house was burglarized, and she was furious that i had not shot the guy, ( I was not even home when it happened.)


Another neighbor in the city would refuse to let her kids play with my kids because I had guns.

I got a call from a co-worker at about 2 am. There had been a break in in her building and she was terrified, I told her I did not think my wife would like the idea of her and me in her apt all night but she was free to spend the night at our place. She hung up on me.

I hate the friends who make the joke comments about who carries etc. I do get asked to walk a lot of friends out to their car when it is late at night.

 

[larry_minn]

I have a dip co-worker that keeps asking me to show him how to make full-auto guns. I always tell him to get lost. Many people would love to see someone kick his arse. Not many people like him.

(opps forgot who posted this) anyway
Inform him you checked and if he asks you again that is a FELONY and in order to protect yourself from conspiricy charges you MUST contact BATFE and report him. As it happens at work you will have to inform HR and he will likely get fired. This is his final warning.

Forgot to add. My most silly request was by Sheriff's dept dispatcher (likely non- gun owner?) I reported strange goings on at my church at midnight (3 cars and two pickup full of kids/lights out/etc/etc) She (dispatch) asked me to leave my car and check their cars AND check the church for damage. I informed her I would NOT leave my car or the highway. (she did not know me from Adam) I had NOT informed her I was armed and had body armor on.
Wonder what responding Officers (they didn't have anyone in area for 20 minutes and had to wake city cop to come out) If I had said. "OK, Tell responding Officers that guy with DPMS AR on 3 pt sling/body armor/vest with half dozen mags/G21 and spare mags is good guy."

 

[Hoppy590]

wow, larry_minn

do you just drive around looking for a shoot out?
if you dont mind me asking, where were you coming from

 

[Croyance]

I got a call from a co-worker at about 2 am. There had been a break in in her building and she was terrified, I told her I did not think my wife would like the idea of her and me in her apt all night but she was free to spend the night at our place. She hung up on me.

Now that is just rude. You offered a safe haven and she hangs up. As if calls in the middle of the night are welcome things.

 

[torpid]

I got a call from a co-worker at about 2 am. There had been a break in in her building and she was terrified, I told her I did not think my wife would like the idea of her and me in her apt all night but she was free to spend the night at our place. She hung up on me.

This sounds like she may have been hoping for a 2 am "visit"...

.

 

[Trebor]

I stopped over.

It was a farce.


She was horny, and he turned out to be a dork of a date.


I think I read that same story in a certain magazine....

"Dear Guns & Ammo,

I never thought I'd be writing to you, but I had the strangest experience recently..."

Gives a new meaning to "Gun Porn," I guess.

 

[larry_minn]

I posted the whole thing over a yr ago.
Basicly we had (people) breaking into church and stealing most anything not bolted down (including the lights for the sign)
I got up for drink and saw lights by church/behind/etc at around midnight. I put BA on over PJs and a heavy shirt. Put on pants with Glock/flashlight and kept watch from house. (more activity) as I know response is 30 minutes + (heck they just had local city cop report to city council that HIS backup is over 20 minutes away if he gets into trouble and calls for help. (everyone knows this but IMO paper should not have printed this)
Anyway as DPMS is right there I toss it into car as well and drive down highway past church. (do not stop) just dry past like going to town. I see enough to know I want LEO help so I call it in on cell. Dispatch tells me nobody available. (no surprise) and asks if I can get lic number of cars/trucks? I tell her I will attempt the (aparently unmanned) cars and drive past going the other way and read of lic numbers as I drive by (rather slowly but with plenty of room and firm intention of hitting gas if anything comes up)
Yes I was loaded for bear. I haven't spent $$$ on training with carbine to rely on pistol (ok spent 6x easy on pistol training) when carbine sat in case at home. (you use pistol to fight way to rifle)
I did NOT want a shootout. If they did I wanted to be able to oblige them. When there are over 20 unknowns you don't play fair. Now the city Cop knew me and likely figured I was loaded for bear/owl/etc.
Now if Church was at dead end/no exits I wouldn't have gotten that close. Its at crossroads with large paved open areas on three sides. And my plan that I used was to dry past/go couple miles/turn around and come back another direction so I always had some speed/room to manuver.

 

[Jadecristal]

It IS bigotry...

June 19th, 2006 11:58 PM
razorburn

Honestly I've lost all patience with antis and treat them the same as I treat anti-semites or other racists.

"I have not patience for your bigotry, now go away."


Seriously, if someone said of one of their black co-workers "You don't want to piss Bob off or he'll get all crazy and start shooting all the white people." or of a gay co-worker "Don't bend over in front of Bob or you might get a surprise!" there are plenty of companies that would consider those fireable offenses.

To play devils advocate, when did boys who like guns or boys who like boys become a race? Only the black example is about race, the others are discriminating based off of personality traits.

As a boy who likes guns AND boys, I hope this doesn't come across as not-high-roadish, from http://www.m-w.com/:

Main Entry: big·ot·ry
Pronunciation: 'bi-g&-trE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ries
1 : the state of mind of a bigot
2 : acts or beliefs characteristic of a bigot

Main Entry: big·ot
Pronunciation: 'bi-g&t
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French, hypocrite, bigot
: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices
- big·ot·ed /-g&-t&d/ adjective
- big·ot·ed·ly adverb

Jadecristal

 

[GunnySkox]

It's not every day you have your fraternity (especially when it's the National Honorary Fraternity for College Bandmembers) mentioned on THR.

When/Where'd you pledge? Spring '96 - Georgia Tech here.

I didn't pledge, but my roommate did. He pledged Fall '05, up at Virginia Tech.

Sorry for OTing,

~GnSx

 

[Fleetwing1627]

Fall 2002, Epsilon, Mississippi State.