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But yes, Firing slugs out of a pistol grip shotgun, isnt terribly smart.
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I hear ya and don't doubt it. The pistol grip was for portability and he would have gotten off one shot! I have never shot a pistol grip 12ga and don't plan on it. I prefer pistolgripey pistols 'an riflestockey rifles.
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Good grief people... are you all 42 pound wimps?

Actually, scratch that, my 80+- lb friend shot my pistol grip mossy. While she didn't find it pleasurable, she didn't break anything, fall over, get a stroke, or whatever. Just so you bid bad men can feel really good about yourselves, she's 4'11 and looks like the poster child for eating disorders. She had no problem with a variety of loads, including a 3" sabot slug. And no, she's not an experienced shooter.

It's funny that in this thread to poke fun of dumb gun comments, we have a little sub-thread about the big, bad pistol grip shotguns that's generating dumb gun comments. Strambo, you say you've never experienced a pistol grip shotgun, but you feel inclined to comment that he'd get off "one shot." What makes you say that?
 
When you guys are talking about shooting hotter loads in pistol grip shotguns, you are doing so with the shotgun low slung... sort of to your shooting side with arms extended so that both arms swing when firing?

I hope you guys aren't talking about holding it like a rifle-stocked shotung and actually aiming with the sights...

Am I right? Am I crazy? Are you crazy?
 
Used to own a Mossberg cruiser pistol grip 12 gauge. Fired all kinds of loads out of it. Some, like "goose loads", are pretty spirited. Slugs are no big deal. BTW, the best way to fire it is to bring it up and point it as if it had a shoulder stock, if you like hitting things any way.. The key, of course, is to remember to hold on to it.

I don't have it any more because my 120 lb. first wife got it as part of the divorce and is, to this day, still shooting the hell out of it.
 
After having seen the wounds of several people shot with one, it wouldn't surprise me in the least.
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Me either. I groundhog hunt, seen damage, do not doubt it at all.
 
I have 2 pistol grip 12 gauges, a mossy 500 w/ 18.5" barrel
and a old 12G Double barrel.
I'm not that big and have no trouble with either one(unless I pull both triggers at once on the double)
I shoot from the hip because of a old shoulder injury.(not from the shotguns)
I enjoy seeing the look on peoples faces when I shoot clays at the gun club:D
Ken
 
had a 300 Ultra Mag. He went on to describe how he 'could kill you from a mile away with it'
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Well, shooter skill aside, check out the #26 issue of Special Weapons (for law enforcement.) There's a documented shot at 2,000yds (over 1 mile) from a .300RUM.

I bet the guy doing the talking would have trouble hitting paper at 100 however.
 
my first gun was a rem870 w/ a pistol grip and at the time i was 18 and 130 lbs and the first shot i put through it was a 3" mag slug. while it was a bit painful on the wrist i continued to shoot the same shells for well over 2 hours until i ran out :( my buddy regulary shoots his moss500 with pistol grip with one hand (hes 6'3" and close to 300lbs though)

but as far as the whole pistol grip pump issue unless you have tried it dont knock it. its rather fun once you get over the swelling.
 
I remember seeing an episode of Cops where a gun was confiscated.

The cop who got to do the honors struggled with it awhile and finally managed to drop the mag and eject the round in the chamber. He held the 9mm shot shell up to the camera. (Why anyone would carry a 9mm loaded with shot shells, I don't know.)

Anyway, he held the shot shell up to the camera and said: "Look, it's teflon coated! This is one of those cop killer bullets."
 
Excuse me for deviating from the pistol-grip shotgun hi-jack.

While browsing one of my local gun shops, one of the salesmen who knows I like older S&W revolvers shows me a nice 6" Model 53.
He brings out the original box to show me the rimfire inserts and I ask him if it comes with the auxillary .22LR cylinder. He replies that S&W didn't make an aux cylinder for the Model 53. I assured him they did.

While he is insisting that it NEVER happened, he is plucking the chamber inserts out of their little cut-outs.
The 6 little cut-outs that are located right BELOW the cylinder cut-out. :banghead:
 
Kind of a mix.

Either "Ultimate Shotgun" as used to describe a certain pimped-out Remington 870

or

"Assault Rifle/Weapon" as used to describe semiauto weapons that look like their selective-fire military cousins.
 
The ceramic Glock can be dis-assembled and sneaked on a plane. However only the secret service carry those so noone can tell who they are even when they're going through a metal detector.

Yeah, ceramic Glock has gotta be my favorite. Or...The Beretta is a more eliable weapon than the 1911 or the SIG P-226.
 
Either "Ultimate Shotgun" as used to describe a certain pimped-out Remington 870
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Oh come on, let him have his fun.

Anyway, I also saw the cops episode in question where the cop expresses dismay at a teflon coated "cop killer" bullet.

A cop friend of mine expressed the same sentiments once. I said "You know, I think teflon is just to protect the barrel." He says: "Well it does that also . . ." That was when I was not a gun nut per se, and didn't know a lot about guns in general, but I did know what teflon was really for at least.

Same thing with an otherwise knowledgeable gun person when commenting on some Moly tipped bullets I was shooting through a Rem 700 P. "Those are armor-piercing!" he exclaims. I said "No, they help protect your barrel." He says "Oh yeah, that too . . ."

Now I'm not knocking his firearms knowledge. He can run rings around me when it comes to handguns. We all say stupid things, I'm sure. Hell, I didn't know the difference between a double action and single action handgun until not too long ago! I'd just never owned a snigle action before. It's good to remain humble.
 
You shouldn't be surprised to hear otherwise knowledgeable people say the occasional stupid commments. There are a lot of old wive's tales that refuse to die. I grew up around guns and spent as much time as possible hunting, target shooting, and collected guns most of my first thirty years (got my first .22 when I was 5). I moved to a city when I was 30 and lost interest in those things for about 8 years. When I got back into it, I started doing some serious studying on the subject. I was amazed to learn how much that passed as common wisdom among the masses of gun owners was just plain wrong.
 
That's funny about not knowing the difference between double and single action. As a kid I spent a lot of time shooting a WWII-era military 1911. I also owned a Luger and a number of .22LR autoloading handguns, but my primary interest was revolvers so I didn't really pay much attention to centerfire autoloaders.

Then on a lark I bought one of the then-new P89s. Having only experiended SA centerfires like the Luger and 1911 and DAO rimfires, I was amazed to discover the SA/DA system (I was exceptionally stupid when I was younger, well, to be precise, until just last fall). I remember thinking, "This is brilliant! This is how all semi-autos should be built!"
 
TechBrute, I didn't see your responses to these threads:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthre...ol+grip+shotgun

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthre...t=folding+stock
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Probably because I didn't respond to them. Are you under the impression that I am some advocate of the pistol grip shotgun? I'm certainly not. I'm just pointing out that people are making dumb comments in a dumb comments thread. Pistol grip shotguns may be more difficult to shoot accurately, and they may be rough on some smaller people, but they won't break ribs or wrists, knock you into a coma, or whatever other ludicrous comments are made about them.
 
I was watching a TV show about gangster guns from the 20's. The "gun expert" was talking about the .38 Super, and the whole time they were flashing to pictures of revolvers, as a reference. If that wasn't bad enough, the "expert" seriously stated that the .38 Super would "blow a man right off his feet."
 
Speaking of .38 Supers, I once tried to buy a new Colt El Commandante. The store manager said he couldn't sell it to me in good conscience, because I was his friend, and the El Commandante was only for "pimps and Mexicans." (not that he had anything against Mexicans, he was referring to the whole no military calibers thing.)
At another store, I was checking out a nice Smith & Wesson M27. I'd been mainlining John Taffin articles and was all set to buy it. The clerk goes into the whole "do you own a boat? Why do you need an anchor?" routine, and manages to convince me to leave without buying anything. When I came to my senses and went back for it, it was gone.
A third store near me has a guy who's a big advocate of the "bad guys will flip the switch and pull your Beretta's slide right off!" theory, but only Berettas you already own. If you're looking to buy one, it's nonsense.
 
The TEFLON one really bugs me.

I have heard a few. One of my High School teachers was a Vietnam veteran. He was telling us about the M16 one day, telling us that the bullet "tumbles to create more damage." I believed it for a little while, not knowing any better.

I brought it up one day not too long ago to my Dad, telling him what my teacher had said. At this point, I knew the "tumbling" didn't happen.
"Is that true?" I asked.
"Yeah."
"How do they make bullets tumble?" :scrutiny:
"The barrels aren't rifled."
:scrutiny: :banghead:

Another of my favorites was the magic disassembling Berettas. "If a guy gets close to you, he can pull your slide right off!!"
So, naturally, I tried it. It can't be done unless the magazine's out. So I guess if you participate in a lot of close quarters battles shooting your Beretta one shot at a time, sure, it can happen. :rolleyes:

Wes
 
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