FN FS2000 is a crappy gun?

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From this thread which has lots of pics and videos:
http://www.tacticalunderground.us/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4602

Apparently this is how you clear a malfunction
ARvsFS2k004.jpg

There's not bolt hold and apparently the gun is known to triple feed. Other people have said they they probably didn't change the gas valve from high to low when using cheap ammo and that's what is causing the problems.

Still no bolt hold? What's up with the excessive work to clear the weapon? I've also heard they put a rubber ring in the mag well of the civi models that makes mag changes slow and cumbersome.

Reloading.
http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l282/stevil0/?action=view&current=ARvsFS2k012.flv

Clearing an inert round. It never went this easy when the malfunction was real. Ever.
http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l282/stevil0/?action=view&current=ARvsFS2k014.flv


Thoughts? It's too bad we don't have the tavor. I want a 5.56 bullpup so bad and this is such a sweet looking gun.
 
I've heard you can change out the magwell to make it less cumbersome. I don't know about triple feeds, but the friend of mine that has one of these hasn't experienced this personally yet. He's using the cheap stuff most of the time.

jm
 
Well, I only have a PS90 - But, we have a lot of FS2000 owners at the FN Forum - so far, on a poll at our site, only 3 people are unhappy with the weapon.
 
IMO, a good start at evaluating a carbine is to run it in a high-volume training class or two (e.g. EAG Tactical, Tactical Response, etc), and then run it in practical shooting matches. Those types of activities reveal gun and gear problems at a rate far higher than normal shooting.

-z
 
I like my FS 2000 and plan on running it in a match. I guess we'll see how it works. I have been very happy with it, so far.
 
It a great firearm. I had no issues and no problem with AE and WWB. I had to change the gas setting on Wolf to cycle correctly. Besides that, there were no malfunction on FS2000.

I even shot FS2000 during rain shower/storm, and worked prefectly fine.

Here are some pic and videos


fs3cr9.jpg



fs5vc1.jpg




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRxYr69zkO0 (shooting, reloading)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8Bk3hjIcFI (on a rainy day)
 
Shipwreck:

But, we have a lot of FS2000 owners at the FN Forum - so far, on a poll at our site, only 3 people are unhappy with the weapon.
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Out of how many? I did a quick search and couldn't find it. Will do a more thorough search after work.
 
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Is there a way to add a bolt hold to the gun? Or does the forward eject require you to cock the gun every time you insert a new magazine?
 
Out of how many? I did a quick search and could find it. Will do a more thorough search after work.
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It is the VERY 1st post in the FS2000 section :neener:- Not that hard to find :D

It is here:

http://www.fnforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=1288

So far, only 33 people have voted. We are a growing community. We originally was a PS90 forum, and just coverted to an ALL FN forum rather recently.
 
:what: WOW! I do believe that I am too old. I'm still gettin' used to stainless steel. This much resin, plastic or whatever in a device as dynamic as a firearm is just beyond me. It looks like a problem waiting to happen. Best wishes in your new job as a developmental test engineer for FN! :D
 
That's my friend steve's weapon. He's a pretty knowledgeable guy and knows what he's doing around ARs and most other rifles. He's very frustrated with the FN.
 
That's my friend steve's weapon. He's a pretty knowledgeable guy and knows what he's doing around ARs and most other rifles. He's very frustrated with the FN
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Did he get a lemon? I've ran into a lot of people that say the gun shoots fine with good ammo. And then there are those like BigSoundRacing that adjust the settings for wolf and have no problems.
 
Is there a way to add a bolt hold to the gun? Or does the forward eject require you to cock the gun every time you insert a new magazine?
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It just so happens (for me) that I was just shooting one with a couple friends yesterday. (One of the friends and I have one each on order but the dealer we are going through allowed us to use the demo gun during the range trip.)

The gun uses the same method of operation (in terms of what the operator needs to do to shoot it) as that of the HK older (G3/91/93/94/MP5/etc.) rifles and subguns. No bolt hold open when the mag runs dry. The cocking action of the charging handle is similar in that you retract it (located towards the front on the left side of the rifle) and give a slight twist uppward to lock it open. Pull it back a little and twis back or bump it down to release it. Personally, I have no problem with that as I have a few HK-(older)type guns. I did not disassemble the gun to examine it closely but if it is anything similar function-wise to Kal-Tec's new forward ejecting rifle coming out in the future, the bolt does need to go forward to eject the spend case. The action is what kicks it out the ejection passageway.

The gun is a bit butt heavy (as expected) and in much much louder than a regular configured (non-bullpup) rifle due to the proximity of the muzzle (with brake). The safety required some getting use to. Kept on feeling around for levers and buttons with my thumb out of habit. Trigger was a bit long and heavy too.

A Tru-Glo red dot was set atop the sample and I wasn't too sure of its reliability to hold zero. If, in fact, it did hold zero, the gun has so-so accuracy/precision, at least this sample.
 
BigSoundRacing let me shoot his. It's an interesting carbine, and I put about sixty rounds through it.

No, it does not hold the bolt open after the last shot, yes there is a way to lock the bolt open. You pull the charging handle all the way back, and then push it up into a cutout. Similar to what's on an MP5.
 
Does anyone know why there wouldn't be a BHO on a modern weapon? I can't think of any benefit to not having one...

It's one of the things I always disliked about the HK G-series rifles and MP-5s. (and AKs)
 
because with proper training there is no advantage to a bolt hold open. the primary disadvantage is the open bolt could allow anything in the air (or ground if you are close to it) to have and open path into the action. i dont dislike a bho myself, but that is why you dont see it.
 
Does anyone know why there wouldn't be a BHO on a modern weapon? I can't think of any benefit to not having one...
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Well, the AK family could just be simple Soviet bare-bones efficiency and cost of manufacture. Otherwise it protects the action, and closes a major point of entry for dirt/mud into the action and chamber which can render a rifle 100% inoperable. In that case, it's a trade off between that protection and the speed of reloading.

Although with a design with an action as enclosed as the FN FS2000, it does not explain the lack of a BHO at all.
 
I've never shot one, but I did check one out at a local gun shop the other day. It seems very ergonomic and well-assembled.
 
Although with a design with an action as enclosed as the FN FS2000, it does not explain the lack of a BHO at all.
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yes it does. the empties go out the front, in a somewhat complicated manner. if you dont send it out before a new magazine goes in, you could have a problem. i would wager that the engineers at fn tried it, because they know most 'modern' militaries want one
 
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Does anyone know why there wouldn't be a BHO on a modern weapon? I can't think of any benefit to not having one...
Well, the AK family could just be simple Soviet bare-bones efficiency and cost of manufacture. Otherwise it protects the action, and closes a major point of entry for dirt/mud into the action and chamber which can render a rifle 100% inoperable. In that case, it's a trade off between that protection and the speed of reloading.

Although with a design with an action as enclosed as the FN FS2000, it does not explain the lack of a BHO at all.
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Bolt Hold Opens do not serve the State or the Party.
 
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