People check out the morgue article, his numbers dont' make sense, basically the guy is doing multiple GSW autopsies a day, and the numbers he claims exceeded the TOTAL dead (murder/suicide I think) in Atlanta and surrounding counties.
It's the internet, so who knows, but that isn't what he claimed. It sounds like mostly he works with decomposed bodies, but he likes to look over
x-rays/reports from the medical examinor and/or observe them work at least when firearms are involved.
We'd probably do the same if we had the access and could count it as billable hours right?
I don't think people were shooting once and waiting to see if BG fell. I think people thought "I've got 15 rounds, if I spend 5 I've still got 10 left) and fired them in 2 seconds. Hence the problem with 1SS stats.
There was a study on one shot stopping done by somebody else, and I think that's a valid criticism. I'd expect to see more rounds in somebody if they don't go down with the first few, but you should be able to double tap somebody before you could perceive that the first round severed the upper spine.
But this is a bit different in that he's talking about what he's seeing bullets do. Specifically that he's seeing 9mm and .380 rounds fragmenting or deflecting after hitting bone, whereas he can't recall a .45 round doing that, and he seems to think .40s are pretty good too.
It isn't a scientific study by any means. However it should give one pause, and the annoying thing is that I don't know of a more scientific study.
Really? Sorry but penetration is a property of sectional density and velocity, bullet weight alone doesn't give much information on how a bullet will penetrate. I'm pretty sure some dude was having fun advancing his "no caliber that doesn't start with either .4 or 10" beliefs in that story.
Well lets be clear what this is about.
There are different sorts of penetration. There is penetrating a gaseous media. We consider this as drag, and that isn't what we're talking about.
There is penetration as in how many mm of RHA armor you can get through, and that's not it either.
There is penetration through a gel, which is looked at a lot, but directly isn't the issue I'm raising.
There is frangibility, which I am bringing up. Now some rounds are meant to be frangible, which can be deadly with the right rifle round. But with handguns they tend to result in way to little penetration. An issue from his observations is that the lighter rounds may be much more prone to doing this when they aren't designed to.
Then there is deflection. This is about changing course when you hit something or change media. The human body has a lot of bones and generally you're aiming at something behind them. Presuming your shot placement was good, you don't want the bullet deflecting.
Even if you don't go for the morgue post, you can see this from the "buick o' truth"
Another thing - if you aim COM, and you hit COM, no matter your angle, you'd hit it dead on.
Even if you hit COM, bones are curvey things. So if your initial trajectory is dead on to hit the heart, but the bullet has to get through an Ulna and.or a rib to get there, you not only have to question if the round can make it that far period, but also if it has deflected from its origional path and is now getting nothing but lung.
timer. I was pleasantly rewarded / surprised with about .27 sec between 1st & 2nd shot on average while keeping both the rounds on the 6'' circle from 6-7 yards.
